Savers are the losers in today's tough times

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WASHINGTON — Two giant mortgage companies get into hot water over risky investments. The government steps in to throw them a lifeline should they need it.

Hundreds of thousands of Americans buy homes more expensive than they can afford. Congress approves a rescue package.

Troubles erupt at a Wall Street investment firm that made bad bets on mortgage investments. The Federal Reserve steps in and provides financial backing for the company's takeover.

Meanwhile, tens of millions of people pay their mortgages on time, don't max out their credit cards and put money into retirement funds. They may even save a little extra on the side.

In return, they get rates on their savings that don't even keep up with inflation. They also are witnessing their nest eggs shrinking as the value of their homes plummets and the stock market tumbles.

Policymakers in Washington, D.C., seem more focused on rescuing those who behave badly by putting at risk taxpayers who've played by the rules and shunned the get-rich-quick schemes of Wall Street croupiers.

If the government can toss a lifeline to troubled mortgage underwriters Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, then why won't they do something for Americans who save their money?

Why aren't the nation's savers storming the Federal Reserve or the Treasury Department or the halls of Congress demanding that something be done for them?

"Perhaps there is a mentality that you can't beat city hall," ponders financial adviser and author Ric Edelman.

Or, maybe it's just that the mentality of people who are savers helps make them flexible to roll with the punches.

"I'm not a crybaby about what goes on in the world," says Cathy Tozzi, 70, a retired school-finance director.

"People like my mom. You expect them to be upset. People who are doing a lot of saving now versus people who are done saving are two very different groups," said John Huizinga, professor of economics at the University of Chicago's Graduate School of Business.

Tozzi, who lives in Brooklyn, N.Y., has cut back. "I shop at the 99-cent stores. There are ways of saving money." Even so, she worries about inflation "eating into my savings."

People who grew up during the hardships of the Great Depression are from a generation that was more frugal and knew how to save. To them, debt was a dirty word.

"They grew up with the mentality that you make the best of what is handed to you. They don't worry they won't make it to Rome or Paris this year. They will settle for a car trip," says Alan Hilfer, director of psychology at Maimonides Medical Center in Brooklyn.

The average rate on a one-year CD these days is around 2.3 percent, according to Bankrate.com. However, inflation has been rising closer to 5 percent over the past year, so savers are seeing their returns wiped out.

"Savings are taking it on the chin," says Greg McBride, financial analyst at Bankrate.com. "The Fed's rate cuts geared to aiding ailing homeowners with adjustable-rate mortgages have come at the expense of savers and retirees dependent on fixed income."

The average rate on a savings account is a rock bottom 0.37 percent, Bankrate says. That's even worse than the 0.46 percent rate for the same time last year.

David Middleton and others are so mad about the situation that they got together and formed the grass-roots group Fed Up USA. The group — whose members number around 40 — have protested against "federal financial irresponsibility."

Middleton, 32, who is self-employed, says he was spurred to put on an "activist hat" earlier this year.

That's when the Fed provided a loan of $28.82 billion as part of JPMorgan's takeover of the ailing Bear Stearns.

"I was outraged. These companies make their decisions and their bets and they should be responsible for that. They should not be bailed out on the backs of the taxpayers," he said.

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke and Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson have said the rescues were necessary to avert a broader financial meltdown.

And, the Fed's rate cuts — while providing some relief to distressed homeowners with adjustable-rate mortgages — were aimed at shoring up the wobbly economy. That benefits everyone — savers and the profligate alike.

Older savers may feel that keeping their hard-earned money mostly in a bank is the safest way to go, especially as they watch some of the big nosedives on Wall Street.

Yet, the recent collapse of IndyMac and other banks is increasing anxiety about that, experts say.

"Banks made all these terrible mortgage loans and caused these disruptions, and we are dependent on them for our [financial] security," Hilfer says.

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[payxibka 10,045]

Since the US banks are at risk, why not do something about it if you can. I got my money the he!! out of the US and into a bank that is paying a reasonably high rate of return for the risk I received...

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I've put a good deal of my cash in an Indian bank.

[panamania79 2]

I've put a good deal of my cash in an Indian bank.

If you want,you can deposit some in the RI Credit Union,preferably in MY account.

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I've put a good deal of my cash in an Indian bank.

If you want,you can deposit some in the RI Credit Union,preferably in MY account.

What kind of rate can you give me?

[Heracles 417]

Bankwest Australia. The interest rate for their savings account is 8.5%. 10% on the first $500 deposited each month.

ING Australia is about 8.00%..

Edited August 20, 2008 by Aficionado

[panamania79 2]

I've put a good deal of my cash in an Indian bank.

If you want,you can deposit some in the RI Credit Union,preferably in MY account.

What kind of rate can you give me?

None.We can just go on a shopping spree you'll never forget.

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Bankwest Australia. The interest rate for their savings account is freakin 10.00%.

ING Australia is about 8.00%..

Can anyone deposit money or is it limited to Aus citizens?

I've put a good deal of my cash in an Indian bank.

If you want,you can deposit some in the RI Credit Union,preferably in MY account.

What kind of rate can you give me?

None.We can just go on a shopping spree you'll never forget.

Aren't you the posterchild American consumerism

[Heracles 417]

Can anyone deposit money or is it limited to Aus citizens?

The only rule I am aware of is that the banks must identify you in person. They have a 100 point ID check system.

http://www.australia-migration.com/page/Op...n_Australia/190

[Amby 490]

Lloyds TSB is where we have some of our monies

[panamania79 2]

Bankwest Australia. The interest rate for their savings account is freakin 10.00%.

ING Australia is about 8.00%..

Can anyone deposit money or is it limited to Aus citizens?

I've put a good deal of my cash in an Indian bank.

If you want,you can deposit some in the RI Credit Union,preferably in MY account.

What kind of rate can you give me?

None.We can just go on a shopping spree you'll never forget.

Especially since I am a member of Generation X.

Aren't you the posterchild American consumerism