Effect of work history on K1 visa application

[rsn 135]

Ok, I'm in the (I think) unusual position of planning ahead for a K1 visa application. My girlfriend (from Thailand, from Udon Thani area, currently in Pattaya) has held some type of employment (hotel, restaurant, visa shop) for the last 5 or so years (since she moved to Pattaya) except for 3 months recently where she left her job for personal reasons and went back to her village to be with her mother while her mother underwent a gallstone procedure. She got a new job working at a hotel in July, and has been working there since. She' not thrilled about this job - it doesn't appear to be the greatest place for employees, so she is considering looking for a new hotel to work for. Here are my questions:

1.) Given the fact that she has held gainful employment for all but 3 months of the past 5 or more years, will that 3 month gap cause any problems on her visa app (if we apply, it will likely be in March of 2009)?

2.) Will it look bad on her app if she switches jobs to a new hotel soon, after only working this current job for a few months?

3.) Is there anything else in this area I should know about?

Thanks!

[payxibka 10,047]

1) No

2) No

3) No

[envy_me 18]

1) No

2) No

3) No

agreed..

[Mononoke28 135]

The US embassy doesn't care about the jobs she's had, unless they're illegal. She can be unemployed for years, be at the same job for a long time or change jobs all she wants. It doesn't matter.

Diana

[rsn 135]

The US embassy doesn't care about the jobs she's had, unless they're illegal. She can be unemployed for years, be at the same job for a long time or change jobs all she wants. It doesn't matter.

Diana

Agreed, but someone without a job for a long period of time, especially if that someone is a female and lives in Pattaya, might suggest to the U.S. government (or whoever in the govt handles these visas) that this someone is making money through illegal means, since it is not possible to survive without any income.

[pushbrk 13,176]

The US embassy doesn't care about the jobs she's had, unless they're illegal. She can be unemployed for years, be at the same job for a long time or change jobs all she wants. It doesn't matter.

Diana

Agreed, but someone without a job for a long period of time, especially if that someone is a female and lives in Pattaya, might suggest to the U.S. government (or whoever in the govt handles these visas) that this someone is making money through illegal means, since it is not possible to survive without any income.

True. Fortunately that's not the scenario here.

[rsn 135]

The US embassy doesn't care about the jobs she's had, unless they're illegal. She can be unemployed for years, be at the same job for a long time or change jobs all she wants. It doesn't matter.

Diana

Agreed, but someone without a job for a long period of time, especially if that someone is a female and lives in Pattaya, might suggest to the U.S. government (or whoever in the govt handles these visas) that this someone is making money through illegal means, since it is not possible to survive without any income.

True. Fortunately that's not the scenario here.

Yep, you are correct sir. I just wanted mention that the embassy does not necessarily know that. Not sure if their policy is "innocent until proven guilty" or the other way around in cases like that. Thanks again everyone for your comments. It looks like this site may prove to be quite valuable to me if I end up filing the application.

[pushbrk 13,176]

The US embassy doesn't care about the jobs she's had, unless they're illegal. She can be unemployed for years, be at the same job for a long time or change jobs all she wants. It doesn't matter.

Diana

Agreed, but someone without a job for a long period of time, especially if that someone is a female and lives in Pattaya, might suggest to the U.S. government (or whoever in the govt handles these visas) that this someone is making money through illegal means, since it is not possible to survive without any income.

True. Fortunately that's not the scenario here.

Yep, you are correct sir. I just wanted mention that the embassy does not necessarily know that. Not sure if their policy is "innocent until proven guilty" or the other way around in cases like that. Thanks again everyone for your comments. It looks like this site may prove to be quite valuable to me if I end up filing the application.

They'll see she's held gainful employement all but three months of the last five years and is gainfully employed by a hotel now. Unless the hotel is on a list of places where known illegal activity is the norm, it's not an issue.

Young single Thai women who are unemployed, living in big cities are going to have some explaining to do. This isn't limited to Thailand, of course but the country is well known for having a high instance of prostitution.

Fpr example, a young single Thai woman with a passport showing multiple short term trips to Singapore is not likely to get a visa unless she can show legitimate employment based reasons for those trips.

Apologies for discussing this subject in a thread about your fiance. I don't mean to imply any connection.

[rsn 135]

The US embassy doesn't care about the jobs she's had, unless they're illegal. She can be unemployed for years, be at the same job for a long time or change jobs all she wants. It doesn't matter.

Diana

Agreed, but someone without a job for a long period of time, especially if that someone is a female and lives in Pattaya, might suggest to the U.S. government (or whoever in the govt handles these visas) that this someone is making money through illegal means, since it is not possible to survive without any income.

True. Fortunately that's not the scenario here.

Yep, you are correct sir. I just wanted mention that the embassy does not necessarily know that. Not sure if their policy is "innocent until proven guilty" or the other way around in cases like that. Thanks again everyone for your comments. It looks like this site may prove to be quite valuable to me if I end up filing the application.

They'll see she's held gainful employement all but three months of the last five years and is gainfully employed by a hotel now. Unless the hotel is on a list of places where known illegal activity is the norm, it's not an issue.

Young single Thai women who are unemployed, living in big cities are going to have some explaining to do. This isn't limited to Thailand, of course but the country is well known for having a high instance of prostitution.

Fpr example, a young single Thai woman with a passport showing multiple short term trips to Singapore is not likely to get a visa unless she can show legitimate employment based reasons for those trips.

Apologies for discussing this subject in a thread about your fiance. I don't mean to imply any connection.

No need to apologize. It's true that Thailand is well-known for prostitution, which is why I'm pretty sure we will have to prove that she is not involved in any of these things. It's kind of a frustrating situation. She has made one trip to the U.K. with her ex a couple years ago, but other than that I don't believe she has ever been out of the country. Thanks for your input.

[Devkpaik 1]

The US embassy doesn't care about the jobs she's had, unless they're illegal. She can be unemployed for years, be at the same job for a long time or change jobs all she wants. It doesn't matter.

Diana

Agreed, but someone without a job for a long period of time, especially if that someone is a female and lives in Pattaya, might suggest to the U.S. government (or whoever in the govt handles these visas) that this someone is making money through illegal means, since it is not possible to survive without any income.

True. Fortunately that's not the scenario here.

Yep, you are correct sir. I just wanted mention that the embassy does not necessarily know that. Not sure if their policy is "innocent until proven guilty" or the other way around in cases like that. Thanks again everyone for your comments. It looks like this site may prove to be quite valuable to me if I end up filing the application.

They'll see she's held gainful employement all but three months of the last five years and is gainfully employed by a hotel now. Unless the hotel is on a list of places where known illegal activity is the norm, it's not an issue.

Young single Thai women who are unemployed, living in big cities are going to have some explaining to do. This isn't limited to Thailand, of course but the country is well known for having a high instance of prostitution.

Fpr example, a young single Thai woman with a passport showing multiple short term trips to Singapore is not likely to get a visa unless she can show legitimate employment based reasons for those trips.

Apologies for discussing this subject in a thread about your fiance. I don't mean to imply any connection.

No need to apologize. It's true that Thailand is well-known for prostitution, which is why I'm pretty sure we will have to prove that she is not involved in any of these things. It's kind of a frustrating situation. She has made one trip to the U.K. with her ex a couple years ago, but other than that I don't believe she has ever been out of the country. Thanks for your input.

rsn,

please take our word on this that there's nothing to worry about and you're only worrying yourself.

My fiance has worked with her mother before, renting out some of the properties her mother owns, but other than that that's the only place she's ever worked. She's a full-time student.

This is a NON-ISSUE. There's nothing to even think about. I don't even agree that young thai women who are single would be in a situation where they may be questioned due to them having no work history.

After speaking with my lawyer about it, they said that it's one of those things where the embassy won't make negative decisions based on that unless they have evidence.

And also, your statement about it not being possible to survive without income from working is incorrect. You aren't taking into account that her mother could send her money, her father, etc. For example, my fiance's dad AND mom send her money every month for her apartment and to pay for school. She also has an aeon card that her parents pay off. None of this was explained anywhere on any forms we turned into the embassy. and they never asked. This isn't to say they won't ask your fiance, but I don't believe they will.

Having a consistent job for x amount of years isn't a requirement for the K1 visa, so there's no need to even think/worry about this.

RSN, if, however for some reason you still decide to worry about this, post this question here and you'll get the same answers.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...&start=3420

[pushbrk 13,176]

The US embassy doesn't care about the jobs she's had, unless they're illegal. She can be unemployed for years, be at the same job for a long time or change jobs all she wants. It doesn't matter.

Diana

Agreed, but someone without a job for a long period of time, especially if that someone is a female and lives in Pattaya, might suggest to the U.S. government (or whoever in the govt handles these visas) that this someone is making money through illegal means, since it is not possible to survive without any income.

True. Fortunately that's not the scenario here.

Yep, you are correct sir. I just wanted mention that the embassy does not necessarily know that. Not sure if their policy is "innocent until proven guilty" or the other way around in cases like that. Thanks again everyone for your comments. It looks like this site may prove to be quite valuable to me if I end up filing the application.

They'll see she's held gainful employement all but three months of the last five years and is gainfully employed by a hotel now. Unless the hotel is on a list of places where known illegal activity is the norm, it's not an issue.

Young single Thai women who are unemployed, living in big cities are going to have some explaining to do. This isn't limited to Thailand, of course but the country is well known for having a high instance of prostitution.

Fpr example, a young single Thai woman with a passport showing multiple short term trips to Singapore is not likely to get a visa unless she can show legitimate employment based reasons for those trips.

Apologies for discussing this subject in a thread about your fiance. I don't mean to imply any connection.

No need to apologize. It's true that Thailand is well-known for prostitution, which is why I'm pretty sure we will have to prove that she is not involved in any of these things. It's kind of a frustrating situation. She has made one trip to the U.K. with her ex a couple years ago, but other than that I don't believe she has ever been out of the country. Thanks for your input.

rsn,

please take our word on this that there's nothing to worry about and you're only worrying yourself.

My fiance has worked with her mother before, renting out some of the properties her mother owns, but other than that that's the only place she's ever worked. She's a full-time student.

This is a NON-ISSUE. There's nothing to even think about. I don't even agree that young thai women who are single would be in a situation where they may be questioned due to them having no work history.

After speaking with my lawyer about it, they said that it's one of those things where the embassy won't make negative decisions based on that unless they have evidence.

And also, your statement about it not being possible to survive without income from working is incorrect. You aren't taking into account that her mother could send her money, her father, etc. For example, my fiance's dad AND mom send her money every month for her apartment and to pay for school. She also has an aeon card that her parents pay off. None of this was explained anywhere on any forms we turned into the embassy. and they never asked. This isn't to say they won't ask your fiance, but I don't believe they will.

Having a consistent job for x amount of years isn't a requirement for the K1 visa, so there's no need to even think/worry about this.

RSN, if, however for some reason you still decide to worry about this, post this question here and you'll get the same answers.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...&start=3420

A student would be treated as a student, not a single woman with no visible means of support.

Being asked to explain something is no problem at all when the explanation is ready, simple and believable.

Issues are issues when they become issues.

[Devkpaik 1]

The US embassy doesn't care about the jobs she's had, unless they're illegal. She can be unemployed for years, be at the same job for a long time or change jobs all she wants. It doesn't matter.

Diana

Agreed, but someone without a job for a long period of time, especially if that someone is a female and lives in Pattaya, might suggest to the U.S. government (or whoever in the govt handles these visas) that this someone is making money through illegal means, since it is not possible to survive without any income.

True. Fortunately that's not the scenario here.

Yep, you are correct sir. I just wanted mention that the embassy does not necessarily know that. Not sure if their policy is "innocent until proven guilty" or the other way around in cases like that. Thanks again everyone for your comments. It looks like this site may prove to be quite valuable to me if I end up filing the application.

They'll see she's held gainful employement all but three months of the last five years and is gainfully employed by a hotel now. Unless the hotel is on a list of places where known illegal activity is the norm, it's not an issue.

Young single Thai women who are unemployed, living in big cities are going to have some explaining to do. This isn't limited to Thailand, of course but the country is well known for having a high instance of prostitution.

Fpr example, a young single Thai woman with a passport showing multiple short term trips to Singapore is not likely to get a visa unless she can show legitimate employment based reasons for those trips.

Apologies for discussing this subject in a thread about your fiance. I don't mean to imply any connection.

No need to apologize. It's true that Thailand is well-known for prostitution, which is why I'm pretty sure we will have to prove that she is not involved in any of these things. It's kind of a frustrating situation. She has made one trip to the U.K. with her ex a couple years ago, but other than that I don't believe she has ever been out of the country. Thanks for your input.

rsn,

please take our word on this that there's nothing to worry about and you're only worrying yourself.

My fiance has worked with her mother before, renting out some of the properties her mother owns, but other than that that's the only place she's ever worked. She's a full-time student.

This is a NON-ISSUE. There's nothing to even think about. I don't even agree that young thai women who are single would be in a situation where they may be questioned due to them having no work history.

After speaking with my lawyer about it, they said that it's one of those things where the embassy won't make negative decisions based on that unless they have evidence.

And also, your statement about it not being possible to survive without income from working is incorrect. You aren't taking into account that her mother could send her money, her father, etc. For example, my fiance's dad AND mom send her money every month for her apartment and to pay for school. She also has an aeon card that her parents pay off. None of this was explained anywhere on any forms we turned into the embassy. and they never asked. This isn't to say they won't ask your fiance, but I don't believe they will.

Having a consistent job for x amount of years isn't a requirement for the K1 visa, so there's no need to even think/worry about this.

RSN, if, however for some reason you still decide to worry about this, post this question here and you'll get the same answers.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...&start=3420

A student would be treated as a student, not a single woman with no visible means of support.

Being asked to explain something is no problem at all when the explanation is ready, simple and believable.

Issues are issues when they become issues.

I have heard of numerous people who have been granted K1 visas as single women with no visible means of support. The embassy has no way of knowing whether she is a student or not, as proof of being in college isn't required nor is it asked for.

Basically, anyone can claim to be a student at the embassy when asked why their work history is blank.

I do agree with you though, that being asked to explain something isn't a problem. I have just never heard of anyone being asked that question before, and it wasn't on a list of 100 different questions that the embassy may ask the interviewee.

[pushbrk 13,176]

The US embassy doesn't care about the jobs she's had, unless they're illegal. She can be unemployed for years, be at the same job for a long time or change jobs all she wants. It doesn't matter.

Diana

Agreed, but someone without a job for a long period of time, especially if that someone is a female and lives in Pattaya, might suggest to the U.S. government (or whoever in the govt handles these visas) that this someone is making money through illegal means, since it is not possible to survive without any income.

True. Fortunately that's not the scenario here.

Yep, you are correct sir. I just wanted mention that the embassy does not necessarily know that. Not sure if their policy is "innocent until proven guilty" or the other way around in cases like that. Thanks again everyone for your comments. It looks like this site may prove to be quite valuable to me if I end up filing the application.

They'll see she's held gainful employement all but three months of the last five years and is gainfully employed by a hotel now. Unless the hotel is on a list of places where known illegal activity is the norm, it's not an issue.

Young single Thai women who are unemployed, living in big cities are going to have some explaining to do. This isn't limited to Thailand, of course but the country is well known for having a high instance of prostitution.

Fpr example, a young single Thai woman with a passport showing multiple short term trips to Singapore is not likely to get a visa unless she can show legitimate employment based reasons for those trips.

Apologies for discussing this subject in a thread about your fiance. I don't mean to imply any connection.

No need to apologize. It's true that Thailand is well-known for prostitution, which is why I'm pretty sure we will have to prove that she is not involved in any of these things. It's kind of a frustrating situation. She has made one trip to the U.K. with her ex a couple years ago, but other than that I don't believe she has ever been out of the country. Thanks for your input.

rsn,

please take our word on this that there's nothing to worry about and you're only worrying yourself.

My fiance has worked with her mother before, renting out some of the properties her mother owns, but other than that that's the only place she's ever worked. She's a full-time student.

This is a NON-ISSUE. There's nothing to even think about. I don't even agree that young thai women who are single would be in a situation where they may be questioned due to them having no work history.

After speaking with my lawyer about it, they said that it's one of those things where the embassy won't make negative decisions based on that unless they have evidence.

And also, your statement about it not being possible to survive without income from working is incorrect. You aren't taking into account that her mother could send her money, her father, etc. For example, my fiance's dad AND mom send her money every month for her apartment and to pay for school. She also has an aeon card that her parents pay off. None of this was explained anywhere on any forms we turned into the embassy. and they never asked. This isn't to say they won't ask your fiance, but I don't believe they will.

Having a consistent job for x amount of years isn't a requirement for the K1 visa, so there's no need to even think/worry about this.

RSN, if, however for some reason you still decide to worry about this, post this question here and you'll get the same answers.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...&start=3420

A student would be treated as a student, not a single woman with no visible means of support.

Being asked to explain something is no problem at all when the explanation is ready, simple and believable.

Issues are issues when they become issues.

I have heard of numerous people who have been granted K1 visas as single women with no visible means of support. The embassy has no way of knowing whether she is a student or not, as proof of being in college isn't required nor is it asked for.

Basically, anyone can claim to be a student at the embassy when asked why their work history is blank.

I do agree with you though, that being asked to explain something isn't a problem. I have just never heard of anyone being asked that question before, and it wasn't on a list of 100 different questions that the embassy may ask the interviewee.

And they wouldn't aske without a reason. We're going in circles. The original comment was that living in a certain Thai city long term as a single woman with no job is likely to require some explaining.

[rsn 135]

Thanks for your input, everyone. I think I can declare this thread closed.