Huckabee: "I have no fear to go to Israel ... I felt more fear in American cities"

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Social progams run the gamut, from education to support in housing and health etc while the person gets on their feet. I know some people don't want 'help people who don't help themselves' because everyone can pull themselves up by the bootstraps if they have enough motivation blah blah blah. Those people don't feel safe in America and would prefer to live in Israel, apparantly.

Ok. I tend to think of handouts and entitlements programs when you say 'social'.

Giving under-educated adults money for rent and jobs at Wal Mart won't do a damn thing towards reducing crime IMO.

Educating their kids so they can exit the ghetto and get well paying jobs will. Long term.

YES.

Problem is... there are segments of the population that complain about those entitlement and handouts and have a quiet, nagging thought in the back of their minds that will be worried that having new competition for their jobs and lifestyles will, in the long run, be potentially detrimental to them.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Education is not a handout.

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I agree that their needs to be some incentive because if all you think your life ammounts to is the opportunity to work 40 years in a low paying job and the alteranative is a lucrative if dangerous career in the drugs trade...

Anyway, the point is that it is no co-incidence that high crime rates occurr in ghettos and it's not the culture that is to blame. It may be true that there are more people of certain ethnicities in ghettos though, of course.

Exactly. Key word is ghetto, of course.

Education is not a handout.

I guess it isn't. Citizens are expected to produce to contribute to the national well-being. Oh wait... did that sound communistic to you?

[Peikko 1,575]

I don't think most think through to the threat to themselves part. It's simply the 'why should I? Noone did that for me, and I didn't need it' mentality. I can see the simplicity of the sentiment but it belies common sense.

[bhajishah 4]

I lost the timing chain in this compact chevy something after getting shoved off into mid town tunnell. ended up where black people speak spanish . and drug dealers were on cell phones everywhere and they told me i was in queens. so i made manzar get out and get on his cell phone and act like he was one of them...

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

I lost the timing chain in this compact chevy something after getting shoved off into mid town tunnell. ended up where black people speak spanish . and drug dealers were on cell phones everywhere and they told me i was in queens. so i made manzar get out and get on his cell phone and act like he was one of them...

There isn't any part of Queens I'd be nervous to drive in.... it's not like you were in the Bronx

[CaNdiD wiTcH 0]

I have been to Israel and felt safer there. Crime is not as pervasive as the US. Facts are facts.

why do you hate America?

Why is that so?

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I lost the timing chain in this compact chevy something after getting shoved off into mid town tunnell. ended up where black people speak spanish . and drug dealers were on cell phones everywhere and they told me i was in queens. so i made manzar get out and get on his cell phone and act like he was one of them...

Or you kids could've acted like cool suburbanites looking for weed. Score!

No offense to my suburbanite homeys.

[Ban Hammer 13,349]

Education is not a handout.

up to 12th grade it is.

[Peikko 1,575]

Is that how you see education? Handouts? Strictly speaking public education is 'handed out' by the government, but do we really need to add some kind of negative connotation to those who 'accept' this free education?

Maybe you would prefer the US only has private education available...

Edited August 19, 2008 by Purple_Hibiscus

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Public education is a handout to those that do not pay taxes.

[almaty 19]

I agree that their needs to be some incentive because if all you think your life ammounts to is the opportunity to work 40 years in a low paying job and the alteranative is a lucrative if dangerous career in the drugs trade...

Anyway, the point is that it is no co-incidence that high crime rates occurr in ghettos and it's not the culture that is to blame. It may be true that there are more people of certain ethnicities in ghettos though, of course.

Exactly. Key word is ghetto, of course.

Education is not a handout.

I guess it isn't. Citizens are expected to produce to contribute to the national well-being. Oh wait... did that sound communistic to you?

brother stevie, be sending you a membership card

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[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Education is not a handout.

up to 12th grade it is.

I don't see it has a handout because education adds value to the recipients in a way that food stamps do not.

You can give a bum food stamps and he's still a bum.

You teach a bum how to read and he stands a shot (if he keeps learning) at no longer being a bum at all.

[Peikko 1,575]

A lot of bums are educated