CALLING ALL GOING THOUGH ISLAMABAD PAKISTAN- OFF TOPIC

[MaryandMian 1]

Hafiz,

He will need to contact the embassy with the birth information on the newborn.

Please read this link, http://travel.state.gov/family/family_issu.../birth_593.html and hope it helps.

Mary

Ok i have a question. One of my friend is going to have a baby inshallah. he is US citizen but his wife is not. They both live in pakistan. So how does he get citizenship for the child.

Edited May 19, 2006 by mianishqsrose

[babybunny 2]

Hafiz,

He will need to contact the embassy with the birth information on the newborn.

Please read this link, http://travel.state.gov/family/family_issu.../birth_593.html and hope it helps.

Mary

Ok i have a question. One of my friend is going to have a baby inshallah. he is US citizen but his wife is not. They both live in pakistan. So how does he get citizenship for the child.

baby is a USC.. by birth..

Edited May 19, 2006 by shonjaved

[hafiz 1]

thanks

mue bien

[babybunny 2]

thanks

mue bien

muy bien

[PSoft 0]

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...90entry206790

start your convo about - the age diffrent- marriage is for having kids - convo here.

thanks in advance..

Excuse me sir.

"And Allah has made for our spouses of your own nature, and from your spouses has made for you sons and grandsons ..." (Quran 16:72)

the purpose of marriage is reproduction. However, in huge age gap marriage the above-mentioned purpose is not realized.

i'm agree with this i cannot argue u r right but rasing a children is very expensive now for the one who dont have much money and stable future...,but how come u say one older women cannot be mother? well what u said is right..,sorry for all i said...gule gule

Why marry?

Marriage makes an incomplete human being a complete one. It makes him/her a grown up and gives him/her responsibilities whether those responsibilities are to feed and clothe the wife or to assist the husband. Marriage is supposed to take a person out of the hectic lifestyle that one is in and place him or her in an organised environment giving them a path to follow in life and a shoulder to lean on. In short marriage arranges one’s life. In Islam a man cannot have relationships with those he can marry unless it is within marriage. In other words Islam gives the right to a woman to be a wife of a man independant of the marriage relationship the man may have with another woman. This is a key diffence because in the modern era a man is not guilty if he has relationships with a woman outside of marriage but the moment he contracts to treat this woman equally as his wife, he is criminalised for illegal behaviour. This is odd as the current common law does not criminalise the actual relationship of the man with another woman but punishes the solemn promise/affirmation in writing to continue. Any off-spring would be illegitamate as the courts would not recognise polgamy even though it exists and is accepted in behaviour but not in writing. In some senses the increase in divorce rates and re-marriages we see nowadays is in someways a serial version of polygamy!. There are many reasons that support polygamy but Islam limits the practice to four wives and is allowed only when one can be fair to all wives. Polygamy is only mentioned briefly here but as a subject could be read in further detail elsewhere. Please also note that the current Law of the land in this regard should be abided by.

Marriage helps to safeguard one’s imaan (faith) i.e. it stops one from committing such acts by which s/he could be considered immoral. Sins such as intermingling with people of the opposite sex or socialising as it is classed in everyday terms are not considered to be acceptable in Islam, (because it creates immorality and immodesty) even though an incredibly large amount of people will hastely class it as an 'essential' part of one’s day.

More reasons why to marry in Islam.

The Prophet considered marriage for a Muslim as half of his religion because it shields him from promiscuity, adultery, fornication, homosexuality etc., which ultimately lead to many other evils like slander, quarreling, homicide, loss of property and disintegration of the family. According to the Prophet (peace be upon him) the remaining half of the faith can be saved by taqwa.

Condition of Marriage

Careful consideration of the Qur'anic injunctions and the traditions of the Prophet (peace be upon him) clearly show that marriage is compulsory (wajib) for a man who has the means to easily pay the mahr (dowry) and to support a wife and children, and is healthy, and fears that if does not marry, he may be tempted to commit fornication (zina). It is also compulsory for a woman who has no other means of maintaining herself and who fears that her sexual urge may push her into fornication. But even for a person who has a strong will to control his sexual desire, who has no wish to have children, and who feels that marriage will keep him away from his devotion to Allah, it is commendable (mandub).

According to the Maliki school, under certain conditions it is obligatory (fard) for a Muslim to marry even if he is not in a position to earn his living:

- If he fears that by not marrying he will commit fornication (zina).

- If he is unable to fast to control his passions or his fasting does not help him to refrain from zina.

- Even if he is unable to find a slave girl or a destitute girl to marry.

Marriage is forbidden (haram) to a man, according to the Hanafi school, if he does not possess the means to maintain his wife and children or if he suffers from an illness, serious enough to affect his wife and progeny.

It is not desirable (makruh) for a man who possesses no sexual desire at all or who has no love for children or who is sure to be slackened in his religious obligations as a result of marriage.

[babybunny 2]

Dont you think we all know our committment here Imran?

just because, someone is not ready to have a baby dont make that person - not committed to their marriage or to their spouse. having 4 wifes stuff is no relivant anyways because, we all are in the USA or bringing spouses to the USA. at the same time marriage is not always for the sole reason of having a baby. there are women whom can not produce a child- just like there are men that cant either. that dont make that person or that marriage worthless. because as we all know infertillity is a real problem.

[MaryandMian 1]

Finally today I have confirmation. Ishteaq will be home late night of May 23rd so I will be saying farewell for some time to VJ in the next few days. JP is having surgery in one week and so it will be hectic around the house here. I will try and check in and see how everyone is progressing. Everyone please try and help each other by cheering each other on and rely on your faith. I will post his POE and update the records in the timelines as soon as things are settled or if he is sleeping from jet lag.

Good luck and God Bless,

Mary

[babybunny 2]

Congrats MARY and MIAN!

[PSoft 0]

Finally today I have confirmation. Ishteaq will be home late night of May 23rd so I will be saying farewell for some time to VJ in the next few days. JP is having surgery in one week and so it will be hectic around the house here. I will try and check in and see how everyone is progressing. Everyone please try and help each other by cheering each other on and rely on your faith. I will post his POE and update the records in the timelines as soon as things are settled or if he is sleeping from jet lag.

Good luck and God Bless,

Mary

Congrats Mary .. !

[hafiz 1]

good luck marry

wishing everyone good luck this coming week

[PSoft 0]

Dont you think we all know our committment here Imran?

just because, someone is not ready to have a baby dont make that person - not committed to their marriage or to their spouse. having 4 wifes stuff is no relivant anyways because, we all are in the USA or bringing spouses to the USA. at the same time marriage is not always for the sole reason of having a baby. there are women whom can not produce a child- just like there are men that cant either. that dont make that person or that marriage worthless. because as we all know infertillity is a real problem.

Shon,

What I wrote in my previous posts was actually Islamic Ideology not my own words. I am not talking about others but those who follow Islam as faith must follow whatever Islamic rulings are. We can’t change things as per own consent.

You believe or not ‘Core’ purpose of marriage is really to reproduce babies.

[dude4084 0]

Finally today I have confirmation. Ishteaq will be home late night of May 23rd so I will be saying farewell for some time to VJ in the next few days. JP is having surgery in one week and so it will be hectic around the house here. I will try and check in and see how everyone is progressing. Everyone please try and help each other by cheering each other on and rely on your faith. I will post his POE and update the records in the timelines as soon as things are settled or if he is sleeping from jet lag.

Good luck and God Bless,

Mary

congrats!

[babybunny 2]

Dont you think we all know our committment here Imran?

just because, someone is not ready to have a baby dont make that person - not committed to their marriage or to their spouse. having 4 wifes stuff is no relivant anyways because, we all are in the USA or bringing spouses to the USA. at the same time marriage is not always for the sole reason of having a baby. there are women whom can not produce a child- just like there are men that cant either. that dont make that person or that marriage worthless. because as we all know infertillity is a real problem.

Shon,

What I wrote in my previous posts was actually Islamic Ideology not my own words. I am not talking about others but those who follow Islam as faith must follow whatever Islamic rulings are. We can’t change things as per own consent.

You believe or not ‘Core’ purpose of marriage is really to reproduce babies.

ok.

[MaryandMian 1]

New week tomorrow and wishing everyone the best. I know the visa review meetings are coming up to those on AR/AP and hope you have good news these next few weeks.

[hafiz 1]

good luck to everyone