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It seems like I went from complete euphoria to depression and edginess. I am overly sensitive to anything like if my husband and I have some language related miss understanding, or If I don't get a text (they sometimes don't reach us) telling me he can't be online for some reason etc... usually I might be annoyed but not badly enough to say something. Now I feel so emotional. He even told me "if you don't want me you don't have to have me, I'll be ok" I never heard him say something like that before. I completely lost all my thoughts LOL! That was different from his usual words of" he can't live without me" etc....What is happening? He seems so cold, prideful and cruel and I am a ######! Why now??????? :crying:

you know what? I think I am getting bitter because I try to accomodate our time difference and have blown off most of my social life to stay home to talk to him online each night and so if he ditches (thats how it feels) me (especially when I feel I really need him) it bugs me. Plus all the sacrifices the visa process makes us (USC's) go thru with $$ time paperwork, flights back and forth, working overtime, saving pennies for after they arrive here too......I think I am answering my own question :blush:

Maybe I should fast Ramadan 24-7 until I disappear :wacko:

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It seems like I went from complete euphoria to depression and edginess. I am overly sensitive to anything like if my husband and I have some language related miss understanding, or If I don't get a text (they sometimes don't reach us) telling me he can't be online for some reason etc... usually I might be annoyed but not badly enough to say something. Now I feel so emotional. He even told me "if you don't want me you don't have to have me, I'll be ok" I never heard him say something like that before. I completely lost all my thoughts LOL! That was different from his usual words of" he can't live without me" etc....What is happening? He seems so cold, prideful and cruel and I am a ######! Why now??????? :crying:

you know what? I think I am getting bitter because I try to accomodate our time difference and have blown off most of my social life to stay home to talk to him online each night and so if he ditches (thats how it feels) me (especially when I feel I really need him) it bugs me. Plus all the sacrifices the visa process makes us (USC's) go thru with $$ time paperwork, flights back and forth, working overtime, saving pennies for after they arrive here too......I think I am answering my own question :blush:

Maybe I should fast Ramadan 24-7 until I disappear :wacko:

Hang in there. It does seem like the end is stressful. My husband and I keep waiting on the phone call saying he is approved and it makes us so edgy that we often take it out on each other and say things we shouldn't. Try to make up for your bad times with good ones. Stay positive and discuss your plans and hopes. Its not easy, I know. This whole process can drive a person crazy.

Married: May 28th, 2007

Arrived in the US: December 10th, 2008

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It seems like I went from complete euphoria to depression and edginess. I am overly sensitive to anything like if my husband and I have some language related miss understanding, or If I don't get a text (they sometimes don't reach us) telling me he can't be online for some reason etc... usually I might be annoyed but not badly enough to say something. Now I feel so emotional. He even told me "if you don't want me you don't have to have me, I'll be ok" I never heard him say something like that before. I completely lost all my thoughts LOL! That was different from his usual words of" he can't live without me" etc....What is happening? He seems so cold, prideful and cruel and I am a ######! Why now??????? :crying:

you know what? I think I am getting bitter because I try to accomodate our time difference and have blown off most of my social life to stay home to talk to him online each night and so if he ditches (thats how it feels) me (especially when I feel I really need him) it bugs me. Plus all the sacrifices the visa process makes us (USC's) go thru with $ time paperwork, flights back and forth, working overtime, saving pennies for after they arrive here too......I think I am answering my own question :blush:

Maybe I should fast Ramadan 24-7 until I disappear :wacko:

The stress of the interview is overwhelming. I remember my husband and I seemed to have more confrontations before the interview, and it was just the emotions of waiting and now its comeing down to the interview. How will it go and so on. Can you call him? just make a phone call when your calm and he is able to talk and tell him how it made you feel and how much you love him and all that. Just try to remember that the stress is even more intense now.

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You did just answer , your tired of dealing with immigration and you just realized we are the ones that have to gather everything and put it together and the ones that come home each night to talk and usually the ones to pay the largest phone bills etc etc etc (we do get tired)

TIMELINE

04/04/2007 K1 Interview from H...w/the devil herself

06/12/2007 Rec'd Notification Case Now Back In Calif. only to expire

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11/20/2007 Married in Morocco

02/23/2008 Mailed CR1 application today

03/08/2008 NOA1 Notice Recd (notice date 3/4/08)

08/26/2008 File transfered fr Vermont to Calif

10/14/2008 APPROVALLLLLLLLLLLL

10/20/2008 Recd hard copy NOA2

10/20/2008 NVC Recd case

11/21/2008 CASE COMPLETE

01/15/2009 INTERVIEW

01/16/2009 VISA IN HAND

01/31/2009 ARRIVED OKC

BE WHO YOU ARE AND SAY WHAT YOU FEEL, BECAUSE THOSE WHO MIND DONT MATTER AND THOSE WHO MATTER DONT MIND

YOU CANT CHANGE THE PAST BUT YOU CAN RUIN THE PRESENT BY WORRYING OVER THE FUTURE

TRIP.... OVER LOVE, AND YOU CAN GET UP

FALL.... IN LOVE, AND YOU FALL FOREVER

I DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT, JUST NOT THE ABILITY

LIKE THE MEASLES, LOVE IS MOST DANGEROUS WHEN IT COMES LATER IN LIFE

LIFE IS NOT THE WAY ITS SUPPOSED TO BE, ITS THE WAY IT IS

I MAY NOT BE WHERE I WANT TO BE BUT IM SURE NOT WHERE I WAS

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I really think that all of this is part of the USCIS' process to test your love and your relationship - they want to see how long you can suffer before breaking...I say this all in jest, but sometimes it really did feel that way.

You can do this Olive - as the saying goes - "Stay strong, fight the power!"

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This is the most dangerous time for the relationship I feel. I think they have NO idea how much we sacrifice/stress to get through this process. They do the same, but most of it falls on our shoulders as we still have jobs and getting things ready here for their arrival. Just be patient and think about when they get here....everything will be fine!

"Haters are confused admirers, they can’t be or figure you out so negativity comes out [their] mouth.”

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I really think that all of this is part of the USCIS' process to test your love and your relationship - they want to see how long you can suffer before breaking...I say this all in jest, but sometimes it really did feel that way.

You can do this Olive - as the saying goes - "Stay strong, fight the power!"

I agree it feels this way. Olive, I've been in your shoes and had some of the same feelings as you have had. Don't stop living your life here is a piece of advice I can offer you. It will help pass time but still make plans to speak with him. I hope that the interview goes well for the both of you!

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I have given up so much for him. I hate to sound that way but... I gave up two beautiful new expensive cars BMW and new escalade(I now have a new honda civic 2 door because he prefers and is used to small cars), I am getting rid of my 4bedroom 3 ba home to move into an apartment, I have been working 6 days a week all year to pay off all credit card debt etc....Just because I want him to have as little stress as possible. I know his coming to a whole new culture will be hard enough. And I did not extra stress on our marriage with too many expenses/financial issues too. I no longer drink any alcohol even though I was just an occasional wine sipper and weekend martini enthusiest (he does not want me to drink) I have flown alone to see him in his country every 4-5 mos and I have never flown alone let alone gone over seas. I just feel I have changed so much and worked so hard for us and to hear him say thoses words "If you don't want me you don't have to have me". I feel like it was a sort of threat I guess. Like hey baby, if you don't like the ingredients don't cook the dinner...pick another recipe. The first thing I though of when I opened my eyes this morning was, now I see more clearly all the times something was really important to me and he just could not seem to do it for long (He has always seemed so sweet and calm and romantic with all the sweet words moroccan men are famous for (L) ). The timeing was bad or something came up or... Like if I tell him how hard the distance is for me and I really miss how much he used to text and email me in the beginning so could we both please make an effort to do that still. He just can't I rarely get an email from him anymore and I accepted it that way. He will for like two days or a week but than it is back to maybe one text to say good morning (on occasion) or if I text him he will text back, or the one text saying he is on line at night (If I text him to be online at night it seems to always be a bad time for him so I just wait for him to text me to talk) My thought is that he is deliberately NOT doing something if I ask him because he does NOT like being told something. I never put this together before and It COULD be just a coincidence because of the tension but on the other hand it could be part of his personality I did not see. I know I am rambling :whistle: can you tell I am freaking out about this? I read so many bad stories from petitioners on here and it is all coming back to me at this time. I don't want to be hurt!!!!

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I have given up so much for him. I hate to sound that way but... I gave up two beautiful new expensive cars BMW and new escalade(I now have a new honda civic 2 door because he prefers and is used to small cars), I am getting rid of my 4bedroom 3 ba home to move into an apartment, I have been working 6 days a week all year to pay off all credit card debt etc....Just because I want him to have as little stress as possible. I know his coming to a whole new culture will be hard enough. And I did not extra stress on our marriage with too many expenses/financial issues too. I no longer drink any alcohol even though I was just an occasional wine sipper and weekend martini enthusiest (he does not want me to drink) I have flown alone to see him in his country every 4-5 mos and I have never flown alone let alone gone over seas. I just feel I have changed so much and worked so hard for us and to hear him say thoses words "If you don't want me you don't have to have me". I feel like it was a sort of threat I guess. Like hey baby, if you don't like the ingredients don't cook the dinner...pick another recipe. The first thing I though of when I opened my eyes this morning was, now I see more clearly all the times something was really important to me and he just could not seem to do it for long (He has always seemed so sweet and calm and romantic with all the sweet words moroccan men are famous for (L) ). The timeing was bad or something came up or... Like if I tell him how hard the distance is for me and I really miss how much he used to text and email me in the beginning so could we both please make an effort to do that still. He just can't I rarely get an email from him anymore and I accepted it that way. He will for like two days or a week but than it is back to maybe one text to say good morning (on occasion) or if I text him he will text back, or the one text saying he is on line at night (If I text him to be online at night it seems to always be a bad time for him so I just wait for him to text me to talk) My thought is that he is deliberately NOT doing something if I ask him because he does NOT like being told something. I never put this together before and It COULD be just a coincidence because of the tension but on the other hand it could be part of his personality I did not see. I know I am rambling :whistle: can you tell I am freaking out about this? I read so many bad stories from petitioners on here and it is all coming back to me at this time. I don't want to be hurt!!!!

Girl, here's my post to K&O, but I think it applies to you too...and remember, change because you want to...not because someone asks you to. There are concessions for everything, but to do all you've done is not just concessions - you've made some serious life changes.

If your heart or his is not "in it to win it" so to speak, then you need to trust yourself...this is one really tough, fight-to-the-finish process. And by finish, I'm not talking about just the visa - hell, getting the visa is the easy part - I mean citizenship or 10-year LPR card. So often, we talk about love, and how if we just hold on everything will be ok, but love is only one component of this process. See, USCIS makes this process more than just about how much do you love each other. You really have to decide if this is the man that you want to marry, but you also have to decide if you trust him enough to be financially responsible for him for the next 10 years or until he gets his citizenship.

If he does come here and you don't find happiness, are you prepared to accept the financial responsibility of his life in the US?

I hate to sound like this is all a business transaction, but in essence, it is. The US government is obligating you to make this business decision - they do want you to understand what you are undertaking.

If you're having trust issues now...it has the potential to only get worse as you get further along.

God bless you...you will make the right decision, just pray on it.

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Yeah I know I saw your post to caybee (I believe) it was a good one...thanks

I have given up so much for him. I hate to sound that way but... I gave up two beautiful new expensive cars BMW and new escalade(I now have a new honda civic 2 door because he prefers and is used to small cars), I am getting rid of my 4bedroom 3 ba home to move into an apartment, I have been working 6 days a week all year to pay off all credit card debt etc....Just because I want him to have as little stress as possible. I know his coming to a whole new culture will be hard enough. And I did not extra stress on our marriage with too many expenses/financial issues too. I no longer drink any alcohol even though I was just an occasional wine sipper and weekend martini enthusiest (he does not want me to drink) I have flown alone to see him in his country every 4-5 mos and I have never flown alone let alone gone over seas. I just feel I have changed so much and worked so hard for us and to hear him say thoses words "If you don't want me you don't have to have me". I feel like it was a sort of threat I guess. Like hey baby, if you don't like the ingredients don't cook the dinner...pick another recipe. The first thing I though of when I opened my eyes this morning was, now I see more clearly all the times something was really important to me and he just could not seem to do it for long (He has always seemed so sweet and calm and romantic with all the sweet words moroccan men are famous for (L) ). The timeing was bad or something came up or... Like if I tell him how hard the distance is for me and I really miss how much he used to text and email me in the beginning so could we both please make an effort to do that still. He just can't I rarely get an email from him anymore and I accepted it that way. He will for like two days or a week but than it is back to maybe one text to say good morning (on occasion) or if I text him he will text back, or the one text saying he is on line at night (If I text him to be online at night it seems to always be a bad time for him so I just wait for him to text me to talk) My thought is that he is deliberately NOT doing something if I ask him because he does NOT like being told something. I never put this together before and It COULD be just a coincidence because of the tension but on the other hand it could be part of his personality I did not see. I know I am rambling :whistle: can you tell I am freaking out about this? I read so many bad stories from petitioners on here and it is all coming back to me at this time. I don't want to be hurt!!!!

Girl, here's my post to K&O, but I think it applies to you too...and remember, change because you want to...not because someone asks you to. There are concessions for everything, but to do all you've done is not just concessions - you've made some serious life changes.

If your heart or his is not "in it to win it" so to speak, then you need to trust yourself...this is one really tough, fight-to-the-finish process. And by finish, I'm not talking about just the visa - hell, getting the visa is the easy part - I mean citizenship or 10-year LPR card. So often, we talk about love, and how if we just hold on everything will be ok, but love is only one component of this process. See, USCIS makes this process more than just about how much do you love each other. You really have to decide if this is the man that you want to marry, but you also have to decide if you trust him enough to be financially responsible for him for the next 10 years or until he gets his citizenship.

If he does come here and you don't find happiness, are you prepared to accept the financial responsibility of his life in the US?

I hate to sound like this is all a business transaction, but in essence, it is. The US government is obligating you to make this business decision - they do want you to understand what you are undertaking.

If you're having trust issues now...it has the potential to only get worse as you get further along.

God bless you...you will make the right decision, just pray on it.

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I have given up so much for him. I hate to sound that way but... I gave up two beautiful new expensive cars BMW and new escalade(I now have a new honda civic 2 door because he prefers and is used to small cars), I am getting rid of my 4bedroom 3 ba home to move into an apartment, I have been working 6 days a week all year to pay off all credit card debt etc....Just because I want him to have as little stress as possible. I know his coming to a whole new culture will be hard enough. And I did not extra stress on our marriage with too many expenses/financial issues too. I no longer drink any alcohol even though I was just an occasional wine sipper and weekend martini enthusiest (he does not want me to drink) I have flown alone to see him in his country every 4-5 mos and I have never flown alone let alone gone over seas. I just feel I have changed so much and worked so hard for us and to hear him say thoses words "If you don't want me you don't have to have me". I feel like it was a sort of threat I guess. Like hey baby, if you don't like the ingredients don't cook the dinner...pick another recipe. The first thing I though of when I opened my eyes this morning was, now I see more clearly all the times something was really important to me and he just could not seem to do it for long (He has always seemed so sweet and calm and romantic with all the sweet words moroccan men are famous for (L) ). The timeing was bad or something came up or... Like if I tell him how hard the distance is for me and I really miss how much he used to text and email me in the beginning so could we both please make an effort to do that still. He just can't I rarely get an email from him anymore and I accepted it that way. He will for like two days or a week but than it is back to maybe one text to say good morning (on occasion) or if I text him he will text back, or the one text saying he is on line at night (If I text him to be online at night it seems to always be a bad time for him so I just wait for him to text me to talk) My thought is that he is deliberately NOT doing something if I ask him because he does NOT like being told something. I never put this together before and It COULD be just a coincidence because of the tension but on the other hand it could be part of his personality I did not see. I know I am rambling :whistle: can you tell I am freaking out about this? I read so many bad stories from petitioners on here and it is all coming back to me at this time. I don't want to be hurt!!!!

Wow,,, I've got the "been there done that" t-shirt...look wearing it now... :star:

Ok Ok i know this one cause we went through the same thing. I am not sure how long it's been since you two have been together, sometimes it's very hard to have a relationship with someone you are not near and we soemtimes forget the way your SO smells, laughs, eat little things we love. My husband can appear "cold" but I've learned not to "read into" things cause to be honest he is ARabic and they mean what they say.

If they think or feel something different they will say exactly that, my problem is reading into things when I started making plans and going out to do things i'd send a text like... "going out with the girls for tea not sure when i'll be back" and then texting at hours later "back had a great time" and became less (bare with me on the word) dependant on him to make me happy he started back peddaling.

Take a look at Arabic women and how they are to their husbands business like, until they are home... mine is the same we are all business until it's him and I we have been married for only three months but have known eachother longer and now have become more in the "comfortable" phase. We both miss eachother but we know we will have eachother soon one day.

It's hard It sucks but live your life and let him know you're living it independatly....don't go crazy but live it...go to the movies, have tea with friends do something and let him know..... I can almost guarentee you things will move.

pm me if you need some one to chat with... I am always here for my VJ girl peeps.

Rajaa

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I have given up so much for him. I hate to sound that way but... I gave up two beautiful new expensive cars BMW and new escalade(I now have a new honda civic 2 door because he prefers and is used to small cars), I am getting rid of my 4bedroom 3 ba home to move into an apartment, I have been working 6 days a week all year to pay off all credit card debt etc....Just because I want him to have as little stress as possible. I know his coming to a whole new culture will be hard enough. And I did not extra stress on our marriage with too many expenses/financial issues too. I no longer drink any alcohol even though I was just an occasional wine sipper and weekend martini enthusiest (he does not want me to drink) I have flown alone to see him in his country every 4-5 mos and I have never flown alone let alone gone over seas. I just feel I have changed so much and worked so hard for us and to hear him say thoses words "If you don't want me you don't have to have me". I feel like it was a sort of threat I guess. Like hey baby, if you don't like the ingredients don't cook the dinner...pick another recipe. The first thing I though of when I opened my eyes this morning was, now I see more clearly all the times something was really important to me and he just could not seem to do it for long (He has always seemed so sweet and calm and romantic with all the sweet words moroccan men are famous for (L) ). The timeing was bad or something came up or... Like if I tell him how hard the distance is for me and I really miss how much he used to text and email me in the beginning so could we both please make an effort to do that still. He just can't I rarely get an email from him anymore and I accepted it that way. He will for like two days or a week but than it is back to maybe one text to say good morning (on occasion) or if I text him he will text back, or the one text saying he is on line at night (If I text him to be online at night it seems to always be a bad time for him so I just wait for him to text me to talk) My thought is that he is deliberately NOT doing something if I ask him because he does NOT like being told something. I never put this together before and It COULD be just a coincidence because of the tension but on the other hand it could be part of his personality I did not see. I know I am rambling :whistle: can you tell I am freaking out about this? I read so many bad stories from petitioners on here and it is all coming back to me at this time. I don't want to be hurt!!!!

The whole email and text thing... sometimes as the seperation gets longer things space out a bit more and some couples only get online 1-2 times a week or call once a week. Doesn't mean they don't care. But it really depends on the couple and if you are not comfortable with that you should let him know.

My husband doesn't really contact me when he is away. When we were apart it was me who was always calling (he never got online and doesn't have internet in family home). I was the one taking all the expense for it and would get PO'd if his phone was off or he didn't answer for more than 24hrs. It was the hardest during harvest season (he's a farmer) and he is constantly leaving his phone in the car or at home. The only time he would ever call me is if he did this and then his mother told him I was calling all day or he saw a bunch of missed calls and would always assume it was me :lol:

It sucks and I know it feels like they don't care, but you have to remember the seperation is hard on them as well, and everyone deals with it differently. I had to learn that my SO wasn't going to stop his life to try to contact me or stay glued to his phone if things were going on in his life there. I was important to him and he made time for me, but he couldn't just stop his life to be available to me when I wanted/needed him. He made an effort and always answered my calls, even if it was only long enough to tell me he couldn't talk :blush:

My hubby did learn his lesson though and he just got back from a 2 month trip. He made sure to call me during the day at least once a week. I also made sure to at least call or text each day bc I didn't want him to forget about me and not come home :lol:

I remember feeling like you do now, but it's not always a horrible ending and you can't listen to all of those terrible stories out there - you have to follow your heart.

يَايُّهَا الَّذِينَ ءامَنُوا اسْتَعِينُوا بِالصَّبْرِ وَالصَّلَوةِ اِنَّ اللَّهَ مَعَ الصَّبِرِينَ

“O you who believe! seek assistance through patience and prayer; surely Allah is with the patient. (Al-Baqarah 2:153 )”

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I have given up so much for him. I hate to sound that way but... I gave up two beautiful new expensive cars BMW and new escalade(I now have a new honda civic 2 door because he prefers and is used to small cars), I am getting rid of my 4bedroom 3 ba home to move into an apartment, I have been working 6 days a week all year to pay off all credit card debt etc....Just because I want him to have as little stress as possible. I know his coming to a whole new culture will be hard enough. And I did not extra stress on our marriage with too many expenses/financial issues too. I no longer drink any alcohol even though I was just an occasional wine sipper and weekend martini enthusiest (he does not want me to drink) I have flown alone to see him in his country every 4-5 mos and I have never flown alone let alone gone over seas. I just feel I have changed so much and worked so hard for us and to hear him say thoses words "If you don't want me you don't have to have me". I feel like it was a sort of threat I guess. Like hey baby, if you don't like the ingredients don't cook the dinner...pick another recipe. The first thing I though of when I opened my eyes this morning was, now I see more clearly all the times something was really important to me and he just could not seem to do it for long (He has always seemed so sweet and calm and romantic with all the sweet words moroccan men are famous for (L) ). The timeing was bad or something came up or... Like if I tell him how hard the distance is for me and I really miss how much he used to text and email me in the beginning so could we both please make an effort to do that still. He just can't I rarely get an email from him anymore and I accepted it that way. He will for like two days or a week but than it is back to maybe one text to say good morning (on occasion) or if I text him he will text back, or the one text saying he is on line at night (If I text him to be online at night it seems to always be a bad time for him so I just wait for him to text me to talk) My thought is that he is deliberately NOT doing something if I ask him because he does NOT like being told something. I never put this together before and It COULD be just a coincidence because of the tension but on the other hand it could be part of his personality I did not see. I know I am rambling :whistle: can you tell I am freaking out about this? I read so many bad stories from petitioners on here and it is all coming back to me at this time. I don't want to be hurt!!!!

The whole email and text thing... sometimes as the seperation gets longer things space out a bit more and some couples only get online 1-2 times a week or call once a week. Doesn't mean they don't care. But it really depends on the couple and if you are not comfortable with that you should let him know.

My husband doesn't really contact me when he is away. When we were apart it was me who was always calling (he never got online and doesn't have internet in family home). I was the one taking all the expense for it and would get PO'd if his phone was off or he didn't answer for more than 24hrs. It was the hardest during harvest season (he's a farmer) and he is constantly leaving his phone in the car or at home. The only time he would ever call me is if he did this and then his mother told him I was calling all day or he saw a bunch of missed calls and would always assume it was me :lol:

It sucks and I know it feels like they don't care, but you have to remember the seperation is hard on them as well, and everyone deals with it differently. I had to learn that my SO wasn't going to stop his life to try to contact me or stay glued to his phone if things were going on in his life there. I was important to him and he made time for me, but he couldn't just stop his life to be available to me when I wanted/needed him. He made an effort and always answered my calls, even if it was only long enough to tell me he couldn't talk :blush:

My hubby did learn his lesson though and he just got back from a 2 month trip. He made sure to call me during the day at least once a week. I also made sure to at least call or text each day bc I didn't want him to forget about me and not come home :lol:

I remember feeling like you do now, but it's not always a horrible ending and you can't listen to all of those terrible stories out there - you have to follow your heart.

:yes: same here. Our men are not like us..that is why we married them.

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Rajaa! You made me cry..and I am at work LOL...I am in Public relations so it's bad to cry hehehe. I am so relieved to read this from you......I will do what you suggest. I suspected I should but was too afraid. And I believe you are right, Arab men must be different from American men that way. I read way too much into his words and he ALWAYS says the same words (accept the "if you don't want me you don't have to have me") that one shocked me :blush:

I have given up so much for him. I hate to sound that way but... I gave up two beautiful new expensive cars BMW and new escalade(I now have a new honda civic 2 door because he prefers and is used to small cars), I am getting rid of my 4bedroom 3 ba home to move into an apartment, I have been working 6 days a week all year to pay off all credit card debt etc....Just because I want him to have as little stress as possible. I know his coming to a whole new culture will be hard enough. And I did not extra stress on our marriage with too many expenses/financial issues too. I no longer drink any alcohol even though I was just an occasional wine sipper and weekend martini enthusiest (he does not want me to drink) I have flown alone to see him in his country every 4-5 mos and I have never flown alone let alone gone over seas. I just feel I have changed so much and worked so hard for us and to hear him say thoses words "If you don't want me you don't have to have me". I feel like it was a sort of threat I guess. Like hey baby, if you don't like the ingredients don't cook the dinner...pick another recipe. The first thing I though of when I opened my eyes this morning was, now I see more clearly all the times something was really important to me and he just could not seem to do it for long (He has always seemed so sweet and calm and romantic with all the sweet words moroccan men are famous for (L) ). The timeing was bad or something came up or... Like if I tell him how hard the distance is for me and I really miss how much he used to text and email me in the beginning so could we both please make an effort to do that still. He just can't I rarely get an email from him anymore and I accepted it that way. He will for like two days or a week but than it is back to maybe one text to say good morning (on occasion) or if I text him he will text back, or the one text saying he is on line at night (If I text him to be online at night it seems to always be a bad time for him so I just wait for him to text me to talk) My thought is that he is deliberately NOT doing something if I ask him because he does NOT like being told something. I never put this together before and It COULD be just a coincidence because of the tension but on the other hand it could be part of his personality I did not see. I know I am rambling :whistle: can you tell I am freaking out about this? I read so many bad stories from petitioners on here and it is all coming back to me at this time. I don't want to be hurt!!!!

Wow,,, I've got the "been there done that" t-shirt...look wearing it now... :star:

Ok Ok i know this one cause we went through the same thing. I am not sure how long it's been since you two have been together, sometimes it's very hard to have a relationship with someone you are not near and we soemtimes forget the way your SO smells, laughs, eat little things we love. My husband can appear "cold" but I've learned not to "read into" things cause to be honest he is ARabic and they mean what they say.

If they think or feel something different they will say exactly that, my problem is reading into things when I started making plans and going out to do things i'd send a text like... "going out with the girls for tea not sure when i'll be back" and then texting at hours later "back had a great time" and became less (bare with me on the word) dependant on him to make me happy he started back peddaling.

Take a look at Arabic women and how they are to their husbands business like, until they are home... mine is the same we are all business until it's him and I we have been married for only three months but have known eachother longer and now have become more in the "comfortable" phase. We both miss eachother but we know we will have eachother soon one day.

It's hard It sucks but live your life and let him know you're living it independatly....don't go crazy but live it...go to the movies, have tea with friends do something and let him know..... I can almost guarentee you things will move.

pm me if you need some one to chat with... I am always here for my VJ girl peeps.

Rajaa

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