A symbol of the GWB Presidency

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

He quit about the same time I decided to take a short break.

Did he forever quit? Or break too?

He took a break early July and said he may not be back.

LOL.. Gary may turn into VJ's own Loch Ness Monster... many a fishing expedition will go out to lure him out of hiding but all will fail!

Maybe he thought this would make us proud, too?

Nice backhanded back pat.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

yawn.

...you'd be wide awake if it were Clinton holding the flag backwards.

and you'd be completely silent.

Eh...I don't think it's clearly ####### for tat - for one, I have yet to hear any noise from those on the Left accusing those on the Right of being unpatriotic over things like this. For example, Obama chooses not to wear a flag pin and people question his patriotism. As funny as it is to see Dubbya holding the flag backwards, nobody is seriously questioning his patriotism...a much more serious implication.

Since Bush has been President and the Republicans have controlled Washington for most of the last 8 years, I've heard more sympathizers overuse the word bashing. It's odd how that one word gets used to describe everything from constructive criticism of a sitting President to all out lampooning. Can someone at least get creative and come up with other verbs?

[DeadPoolX 9]

yawn.

...you'd be wide awake if it were Clinton holding the flag backwards.

and you'd be completely silent.

Eh...I don't think it's clearly ####### for tat - for one, I have yet to hear any noise from those on the Left accusing those on the Right of being unpatriotic over things like this. For example, Obama chooses not to wear a flag pin and people question his patriotism. As funny as it is to see Dubbya holding the flag backwards, nobody is seriously questioning his patriotism...a much more serious implication.

Since Bush has been President and the Republicans have controlled Washington for most of the last 8 years, I've heard more sympathizers overuse the word bashing. It's odd how that one word gets used to describe everything from constructive criticism of a sitting President to all out lampooning. Can someone at least get creative and come up with other verbs?

I think the term "bashing" is used for two reasons:

1. It works well with our current president's name (i.e. "Bush Bashing")

2. Using the verb "bash," "bashing" or "to bash" doesn't sound nearly as violent or potentially threatening as many others might be interpreted and when speaking of a current president, it's generally unwise to publicly state such things.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

yawn.

...you'd be wide awake if it were Clinton holding the flag backwards.

and you'd be completely silent.

Eh...I don't think it's clearly ####### for tat - for one, I have yet to hear any noise from those on the Left accusing those on the Right of being unpatriotic over things like this. For example, Obama chooses not to wear a flag pin and people question his patriotism. As funny as it is to see Dubbya holding the flag backwards, nobody is seriously questioning his patriotism...a much more serious implication.

Since Bush has been President and the Republicans have controlled Washington for most of the last 8 years, I've heard more sympathizers overuse the word bashing. It's odd how that one word gets used to describe everything from constructive criticism of a sitting President to all out lampooning. Can someone at least get creative and come up with other verbs?

I think the term "bashing" is used for two reasons:

1. It works well with our current president's name (i.e. "Bush Bashing")

2. Using the verb "bash," "bashing" or "to bash" doesn't sound nearly as violent or potentially threatening as many others might be interpreted and when speaking of a current president, it's generally unwise to publicly state such things.

It's a buzzword...evokes an emotional response. Bush bashing sounds much more dramatic than saying Bush is being ridiculed or lampooned. I suppose I've heard words like pummeled or hammered used before which are also overly dramatic but still don't carry the same emotional baggage that bashing does. It implies that the poor soul was like a defenseless seal being clubbed for the sport of it.

[DeadPoolX 9]

yawn.

...you'd be wide awake if it were Clinton holding the flag backwards.

and you'd be completely silent.

Eh...I don't think it's clearly ####### for tat - for one, I have yet to hear any noise from those on the Left accusing those on the Right of being unpatriotic over things like this. For example, Obama chooses not to wear a flag pin and people question his patriotism. As funny as it is to see Dubbya holding the flag backwards, nobody is seriously questioning his patriotism...a much more serious implication.

Since Bush has been President and the Republicans have controlled Washington for most of the last 8 years, I've heard more sympathizers overuse the word bashing. It's odd how that one word gets used to describe everything from constructive criticism of a sitting President to all out lampooning. Can someone at least get creative and come up with other verbs?

I think the term "bashing" is used for two reasons:

1. It works well with our current president's name (i.e. "Bush Bashing")

2. Using the verb "bash," "bashing" or "to bash" doesn't sound nearly as violent or potentially threatening as many others might be interpreted and when speaking of a current president, it's generally unwise to publicly state such things.

It's a buzzword...evokes an emotional response. Bush bashing sounds much more dramatic than saying Bush is being ridiculed or lampooned. I suppose I've heard words like pummeled or hammered used before which are also overly dramatic but still don't carry the same emotional baggage that bashing does. It implies that the poor soul was like a defenseless seal being clubbed for the sport of it.

It's also a very common phrase, Steven. I've heard people say things like, "My professor really bashed me over my last paper." It's in no way limited to Bush; he just gets a whole lot more flak than the average person, so perhaps we hear it more often associated with him.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

yawn.

...you'd be wide awake if it were Clinton holding the flag backwards.

and you'd be completely silent.

Eh...I don't think it's clearly ####### for tat - for one, I have yet to hear any noise from those on the Left accusing those on the Right of being unpatriotic over things like this. For example, Obama chooses not to wear a flag pin and people question his patriotism. As funny as it is to see Dubbya holding the flag backwards, nobody is seriously questioning his patriotism...a much more serious implication.

Since Bush has been President and the Republicans have controlled Washington for most of the last 8 years, I've heard more sympathizers overuse the word bashing. It's odd how that one word gets used to describe everything from constructive criticism of a sitting President to all out lampooning. Can someone at least get creative and come up with other verbs?

I think the term "bashing" is used for two reasons:

1. It works well with our current president's name (i.e. "Bush Bashing")

2. Using the verb "bash," "bashing" or "to bash" doesn't sound nearly as violent or potentially threatening as many others might be interpreted and when speaking of a current president, it's generally unwise to publicly state such things.

It's a buzzword...evokes an emotional response. Bush bashing sounds much more dramatic than saying Bush is being ridiculed or lampooned. I suppose I've heard words like pummeled or hammered used before which are also overly dramatic but still don't carry the same emotional baggage that bashing does. It implies that the poor soul was like a defenseless seal being clubbed for the sport of it.

It's also a very common phrase, Steven. I've heard people say things like, "My professor really bashed me over my last paper." It's in no way limited to Bush; he just gets a whole lot more flak than the average person, so perhaps we hear it more often associated with him.

What I'm trying to say is that certain words or phrases are created and then used over and over again to evoke an emotional response. There was a book recently out by a guy who used to be in marketing and then became a key Republican strategist. He admits that there is a lot of thinking and strategy behind words and phrases...and even the dissemination of those words into the political dialogue by way of the media. Many people then just parrot those words or phrases without even thinking about it. For example, a well read news blog states, "A new book out by Maureen Dowd: more Bush bashing."

Words are funny things....our desire to be truthful doesn't mean we show allegiance to specific words but to truth itself, unless we are quoting someone else. Even when quoting someone else, there is a danger of becoming a mere mouthpiece to those specific words.

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he got cut from the women's volleyball team....

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

yawn.

...you'd be wide awake if it were Clinton holding the flag backwards.

and you'd be completely silent.

Eh...I don't think it's clearly ####### for tat - for one, I have yet to hear any noise from those on the Left accusing those on the Right of being unpatriotic over things like this. For example, Obama chooses not to wear a flag pin and people question his patriotism. As funny as it is to see Dubbya holding the flag backwards, nobody is seriously questioning his patriotism...a much more serious implication.

Since Bush has been President and the Republicans have controlled Washington for most of the last 8 years, I've heard more sympathizers overuse the word bashing. It's odd how that one word gets used to describe everything from constructive criticism of a sitting President to all out lampooning. Can someone at least get creative and come up with other verbs?

I think the term "bashing" is used for two reasons:

1. It works well with our current president's name (i.e. "Bush Bashing")

2. Using the verb "bash," "bashing" or "to bash" doesn't sound nearly as violent or potentially threatening as many others might be interpreted and when speaking of a current president, it's generally unwise to publicly state such things.

It's a buzzword...evokes an emotional response. Bush bashing sounds much more dramatic than saying Bush is being ridiculed or lampooned. I suppose I've heard words like pummeled or hammered used before which are also overly dramatic but still don't carry the same emotional baggage that bashing does. It implies that the poor soul was like a defenseless seal being clubbed for the sport of it.

It's also a very common phrase, Steven. I've heard people say things like, "My professor really bashed me over my last paper." It's in no way limited to Bush; he just gets a whole lot more flak than the average person, so perhaps we hear it more often associated with him.

What I'm trying to say is that certain words or phrases are created and then used over and over again to evoke an emotional response. There was a book recently out by a guy who used to be in marketing and then became a key Republican strategist. He admits that there is a lot of thinking and strategy behind words and phrases...and even the dissemination of those words into the political dialogue by way of the media. Many people then just parrot those words or phrases without even thinking about it. For example, a well read news blog states, "A new book out by Maureen Dowd: more Bush bashing."

Words are funny things....our desire to be truthful doesn't mean we show allegiance to specific words but to truth itself, unless we are quoting someone else. Even when quoting someone else, there is a danger of becoming a mere mouthpiece to those specific words.

I don't have a problem with the wording as much as the application is problematic. Its become a (deliberate) tendency to shrug off any legitimate criticism of Bush as "bashing". Almost as though people just don't want to have the conversation.

[DeadPoolX 9]

yawn.

...you'd be wide awake if it were Clinton holding the flag backwards.

and you'd be completely silent.

Eh...I don't think it's clearly ####### for tat - for one, I have yet to hear any noise from those on the Left accusing those on the Right of being unpatriotic over things like this. For example, Obama chooses not to wear a flag pin and people question his patriotism. As funny as it is to see Dubbya holding the flag backwards, nobody is seriously questioning his patriotism...a much more serious implication.

Since Bush has been President and the Republicans have controlled Washington for most of the last 8 years, I've heard more sympathizers overuse the word bashing. It's odd how that one word gets used to describe everything from constructive criticism of a sitting President to all out lampooning. Can someone at least get creative and come up with other verbs?

I think the term "bashing" is used for two reasons:

1. It works well with our current president's name (i.e. "Bush Bashing")

2. Using the verb "bash," "bashing" or "to bash" doesn't sound nearly as violent or potentially threatening as many others might be interpreted and when speaking of a current president, it's generally unwise to publicly state such things.

It's a buzzword...evokes an emotional response. Bush bashing sounds much more dramatic than saying Bush is being ridiculed or lampooned. I suppose I've heard words like pummeled or hammered used before which are also overly dramatic but still don't carry the same emotional baggage that bashing does. It implies that the poor soul was like a defenseless seal being clubbed for the sport of it.

It's also a very common phrase, Steven. I've heard people say things like, "My professor really bashed me over my last paper." It's in no way limited to Bush; he just gets a whole lot more flak than the average person, so perhaps we hear it more often associated with him.

What I'm trying to say is that certain words or phrases are created and then used over and over again to evoke an emotional response. There was a book recently out by a guy who used to be in marketing and then became a key Republican strategist. He admits that there is a lot of thinking and strategy behind words and phrases...and even the dissemination of those words into the political dialogue by way of the media. Many people then just parrot those words or phrases without even thinking about it. For example, a well read news blog states, "A new book out by Maureen Dowd: more Bush bashing."

Words are funny things....our desire to be truthful doesn't mean we show allegiance to specific words but to truth itself, unless we are quoting someone else. Even when quoting someone else, there is a danger of becoming a mere mouthpiece to those specific words.

I don't have a problem with the wording as much as the application is problematic. Its become a (deliberate) tendency to shrug off any legitimate criticism of Bush as "bashing". Almost as though people just don't want to have the conversation.

Perhaps they don't. While I don't particularly care for Bush, I don't vehemently hate the man as many do. Even here, there are numerous posters who will pass off any minor transgression made as "he's such a worthless moron" if Bush did it. In other words, they're allowing their own feelings to come between them and objective analysis..

Understanding that, I could see why many who consider themselves Republicans or at least, conservatives, have no wish to talk to anyone who engages in criticizing the president. Far too frequently, the criticism is simply based on pure nasty, spiteful, hatred.

Edited August 12, 2008 by DeadPoolX

[Ban Hammer 13,279]

Understanding that, I could see why many who consider themselves Republicans or at least, conservatives, have no wish to talk to anyone who engages in criticizing the president. Far too frequently, the criticism is simply based on pure nasty, spiteful, hatred.

[Sinergy 3]

See the look on his daughter's face? OMG. Hilarious.

PRICELESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sinergy 3]

yawn.

...you'd be wide awake if it were Clinton holding the flag backwards.

and it being backwards is all dependant on the position of the viewer. those behind bush (and indeed, himself) have the correct view.

lol...Charles, is he holding it up for himself or for people out, fronting him, off in the distance? Think about it.

He had to hold it for himself, to remember what country he was president of

[Ban Hammer 13,279]

yawn.

...you'd be wide awake if it were Clinton holding the flag backwards.

and it being backwards is all dependant on the position of the viewer. those behind bush (and indeed, himself) have the correct view.

lol...Charles, is he holding it up for himself or for people out, fronting him, off in the distance? Think about it.

He had to hold it for himself, to remember what country he was president of

[HAL 9000 96]

LOL.. Gary may turn into VJ's own Loch Ness Monster... many a fishing expedition will go out to lure him out of hiding but all will fail!

Just turn me on to posting about Global Warming. At some point he'll have to challenge actual scientific data and interpretations.

yawn.

...you'd be wide awake if it were Clinton holding the flag backwards.

and you'd be completely silent.

He might... or he might be talking about certain stains on the flag at that moment.

[Sinergy 3]

yawn.

...you'd be wide awake if it were Clinton holding the flag backwards.

and it being backwards is all dependant on the position of the viewer. those behind bush (and indeed, himself) have the correct view.

lol...Charles, is he holding it up for himself or for people out, fronting him, off in the distance? Think about it.

He had to hold it for himself, to remember what country he was president of

oh WAAA i dont like him, you do...bite me LOL