K-1, co-support no longer accepted?

[daboyz 36]

From what I read, the interviewer did not even look at the co-sponsors' I-134. Thus, I believe that in those particular cases, co-sponsors are disallowed. The petitioners are in the similar situation: working men and lower income (did not meet the poverty level). I did some more reading in VJ and this is what I found. The US embassy has the discretion to determine if co-sponsors are allowed. The law does not state that you can have co-sponsor or you can't. US embassy in Hanoi and Manila will tell you that co-sponsors are not allowed. However, they do accept it under special circumstances. And this is not new. Some of the posts were in 2006. Well, this is what the embassy replied to someone here in VJ. So, I think it's credible. And it makes sense because littleasianman7 was told in the email from the US embassy that they don't accept co-sponsor. Nevertheless, they do during the interview. Therefore, I believe littleasianman7's case is one of special circumstances.

My fiance will have his interview on Aug 20th. I'm also a student and I'm relying on my co-sponsor to get the visa approved. Unlike littleasianman7, my co-sponsor is a family friend. So I think this will very much diminish my chances of having them accept the co-sponsor. I will definitely let you know if my theory is correct.

Also, I can't find the post about co-sponsor in Hanoi and Manila. I post it when I find it.

Pamme,

Here's the thing about "special cases". Before I started the process, I asked my lawyer about whether or not co-sponsors were accepted in Thailand, and they told me "yes". They also told me that, of course, the co-sponsors needs to be 125% above the poverty line, etc., but that in general they are accepted.

When I emailed the embassy before my fiance's interview asking them about whether or not they accept co-sponsors, they responded by telling me they DO NOT accept co-sponsors. I called my lawyer and asked them about this and they said "don't worry, they accept co-sponsors. Technically they don't but as long as your co-sponsor is sufficient, then it's fine", which they were right.

I just asked my lawyers about co-sponsors again on Friday and they told me that the embassy views all primary sponsors the same, meaning whether you are a 40 year old mcdonalds employee or a 23 year old student, they will judge you on the same criteria as the other.

It's up to the CO's discretion as to whether or not he PERSONALLY BELIEVES your fiance will become a public charge. I think my fiance was granted her visa more because of my co-sponsor who is WELL above the poverty line. Also, she filed taxes with my dad and together their income is WAY MORE than sufficient.

Also, the lawyers said they haven't had a single case this month be denied due to a co-sponsor not being allowed.

Thank you for the time you put into finding this out. But I'm still skeptical about these facts:

1) Why is it that the embassy replied to you and me that they do not accept co-sponsors? If they do, what is the purpose of telling us that they don't?

2) From what I read in usvisa4thai.com, the CO said to the beneficiaries that co-sponsors are disallowed. And the their cases will be opened for one year for the petitioner to resubmit I-134 as the sole sponsor. If it was just 1 case, I would probably doubt it. But three people are saying the same thing. Why would they lie? If the reason was really that their co-sponsors are not good enough, all they need to do is just find another co-sponsor that's more qualified. No need to be so frustrated. Apparently, one of the girls is now filing for CR1.

I'm just gonna go the IR-1 route. I know I can use a co-sponsor for that. For IR-1, the I-864 AOS stuff is all done in the US, so the embassy is irrelevant when it comes to financial support issues.

[Pamme 0]

From what I read, the interviewer did not even look at the co-sponsors' I-134. Thus, I believe that in those particular cases, co-sponsors are disallowed. The petitioners are in the similar situation: working men and lower income (did not meet the poverty level). I did some more reading in VJ and this is what I found. The US embassy has the discretion to determine if co-sponsors are allowed. The law does not state that you can have co-sponsor or you can't. US embassy in Hanoi and Manila will tell you that co-sponsors are not allowed. However, they do accept it under special circumstances. And this is not new. Some of the posts were in 2006. Well, this is what the embassy replied to someone here in VJ. So, I think it's credible. And it makes sense because littleasianman7 was told in the email from the US embassy that they don't accept co-sponsor. Nevertheless, they do during the interview. Therefore, I believe littleasianman7's case is one of special circumstances.

My fiance will have his interview on Aug 20th. I'm also a student and I'm relying on my co-sponsor to get the visa approved. Unlike littleasianman7, my co-sponsor is a family friend. So I think this will very much diminish my chances of having them accept the co-sponsor. I will definitely let you know if my theory is correct.

Also, I can't find the post about co-sponsor in Hanoi and Manila. I post it when I find it.

Pamme,

Here's the thing about "special cases". Before I started the process, I asked my lawyer about whether or not co-sponsors were accepted in Thailand, and they told me "yes". They also told me that, of course, the co-sponsors needs to be 125% above the poverty line, etc., but that in general they are accepted.

When I emailed the embassy before my fiance's interview asking them about whether or not they accept co-sponsors, they responded by telling me they DO NOT accept co-sponsors. I called my lawyer and asked them about this and they said "don't worry, they accept co-sponsors. Technically they don't but as long as your co-sponsor is sufficient, then it's fine", which they were right.

I just asked my lawyers about co-sponsors again on Friday and they told me that the embassy views all primary sponsors the same, meaning whether you are a 40 year old mcdonalds employee or a 23 year old student, they will judge you on the same criteria as the other.

It's up to the CO's discretion as to whether or not he PERSONALLY BELIEVES your fiance will become a public charge. I think my fiance was granted her visa more because of my co-sponsor who is WELL above the poverty line. Also, she filed taxes with my dad and together their income is WAY MORE than sufficient.

Also, the lawyers said they haven't had a single case this month be denied due to a co-sponsor not being allowed.

Thank you for the time you put into finding this out. But I'm still skeptical about these facts:

1) Why is it that the embassy replied to you and me that they do not accept co-sponsors? If they do, what is the purpose of telling us that they don't?

2) From what I read in usvisa4thai.com, the CO said to the beneficiaries that co-sponsors are disallowed. And the their cases will be opened for one year for the petitioner to resubmit I-134 as the sole sponsor. If it was just 1 case, I would probably doubt it. But three people are saying the same thing. Why would they lie? If the reason was really that their co-sponsors are not good enough, all they need to do is just find another co-sponsor that's more qualified. No need to be so frustrated. Apparently, one of the girls is now filing for CR1.

I'm just gonna go the IR-1 route. I know I can use a co-sponsor for that. For IR-1, the I-864 AOS stuff is all done in the US, so the embassy is irrelevant when it comes to financial support issues.

How far back do you have to start over?

Edited August 18, 2008 by Pamme

[daboyz 36]

From what I read, the interviewer did not even look at the co-sponsors' I-134. Thus, I believe that in those particular cases, co-sponsors are disallowed. The petitioners are in the similar situation: working men and lower income (did not meet the poverty level). I did some more reading in VJ and this is what I found. The US embassy has the discretion to determine if co-sponsors are allowed. The law does not state that you can have co-sponsor or you can't. US embassy in Hanoi and Manila will tell you that co-sponsors are not allowed. However, they do accept it under special circumstances. And this is not new. Some of the posts were in 2006. Well, this is what the embassy replied to someone here in VJ. So, I think it's credible. And it makes sense because littleasianman7 was told in the email from the US embassy that they don't accept co-sponsor. Nevertheless, they do during the interview. Therefore, I believe littleasianman7's case is one of special circumstances.

My fiance will have his interview on Aug 20th. I'm also a student and I'm relying on my co-sponsor to get the visa approved. Unlike littleasianman7, my co-sponsor is a family friend. So I think this will very much diminish my chances of having them accept the co-sponsor. I will definitely let you know if my theory is correct.

Also, I can't find the post about co-sponsor in Hanoi and Manila. I post it when I find it.

Pamme,

Here's the thing about "special cases". Before I started the process, I asked my lawyer about whether or not co-sponsors were accepted in Thailand, and they told me "yes". They also told me that, of course, the co-sponsors needs to be 125% above the poverty line, etc., but that in general they are accepted.

When I emailed the embassy before my fiance's interview asking them about whether or not they accept co-sponsors, they responded by telling me they DO NOT accept co-sponsors. I called my lawyer and asked them about this and they said "don't worry, they accept co-sponsors. Technically they don't but as long as your co-sponsor is sufficient, then it's fine", which they were right.

I just asked my lawyers about co-sponsors again on Friday and they told me that the embassy views all primary sponsors the same, meaning whether you are a 40 year old mcdonalds employee or a 23 year old student, they will judge you on the same criteria as the other.

It's up to the CO's discretion as to whether or not he PERSONALLY BELIEVES your fiance will become a public charge. I think my fiance was granted her visa more because of my co-sponsor who is WELL above the poverty line. Also, she filed taxes with my dad and together their income is WAY MORE than sufficient.

Also, the lawyers said they haven't had a single case this month be denied due to a co-sponsor not being allowed.

Thank you for the time you put into finding this out. But I'm still skeptical about these facts:

1) Why is it that the embassy replied to you and me that they do not accept co-sponsors? If they do, what is the purpose of telling us that they don't?

2) From what I read in usvisa4thai.com, the CO said to the beneficiaries that co-sponsors are disallowed. And the their cases will be opened for one year for the petitioner to resubmit I-134 as the sole sponsor. If it was just 1 case, I would probably doubt it. But three people are saying the same thing. Why would they lie? If the reason was really that their co-sponsors are not good enough, all they need to do is just find another co-sponsor that's more qualified. No need to be so frustrated. Apparently, one of the girls is now filing for CR1.

I'm just gonna go the IR-1 route. I know I can use a co-sponsor for that. For IR-1, the I-864 AOS stuff is all done in the US, so the embassy is irrelevant when it comes to financial support issues.

How far back do you have to start over?

I don't have to start over. When you file I-130, you file for IR-1/CR-1 anyway. They have been approving them both at the same time, so I'll just follow the I-130 and ignore the I-129F. We will be married 2 years in November, so she'll get a 10 year green card upon entry. (as long as it is after November, with the way VSC is looking, that will probably be the case anyway.)

[Pamme 0]

As I promised, I'm reporting back the status of my case.

It wasn't approved. As a full-time student, only co-sponsors who are family members are allowed. My co-sponsor was a family friend. Co-sponsors are not accepted in general except in special circumstances. The case will be opened for 1 year for me to resubmit I-134. At least, it wasn't denied. I emailed the embassy to ask if I can have my cousin as a co-sponsor. But I wonder how are they going to prove that he is my cousin.

[USbride 0]

No where on th I-134 does it say that the "Sponsor" has to be the US fiance(e) that submitted the application. Would it not be acceptable for another person to sponsor the foreign fiance(e) fiancially? As long as they attest to the fact that they are willing to support the person, I don't see where it matters. I was considering doing this myself since I have been unemployeed for the past 4 months. Maybe I should attach a letter explaining why the I-134 sponsor is another person than myself.

On the other hand if all they want to see is the tax returns for the past three years, then I have that covered with over 125%.

Edited August 20, 2008 by USbride

[Devkpaik 1]

From what I read, the interviewer did not even look at the co-sponsors' I-134. Thus, I believe that in those particular cases, co-sponsors are disallowed. The petitioners are in the similar situation: working men and lower income (did not meet the poverty level). I did some more reading in VJ and this is what I found. The US embassy has the discretion to determine if co-sponsors are allowed. The law does not state that you can have co-sponsor or you can't. US embassy in Hanoi and Manila will tell you that co-sponsors are not allowed. However, they do accept it under special circumstances. And this is not new. Some of the posts were in 2006. Well, this is what the embassy replied to someone here in VJ. So, I think it's credible. And it makes sense because littleasianman7 was told in the email from the US embassy that they don't accept co-sponsor. Nevertheless, they do during the interview. Therefore, I believe littleasianman7's case is one of special circumstances.

My fiance will have his interview on Aug 20th. I'm also a student and I'm relying on my co-sponsor to get the visa approved. Unlike littleasianman7, my co-sponsor is a family friend. So I think this will very much diminish my chances of having them accept the co-sponsor. I will definitely let you know if my theory is correct.

Also, I can't find the post about co-sponsor in Hanoi and Manila. I post it when I find it.

Pamme,

Here's the thing about "special cases". Before I started the process, I asked my lawyer about whether or not co-sponsors were accepted in Thailand, and they told me "yes". They also told me that, of course, the co-sponsors needs to be 125% above the poverty line, etc., but that in general they are accepted.

When I emailed the embassy before my fiance's interview asking them about whether or not they accept co-sponsors, they responded by telling me they DO NOT accept co-sponsors. I called my lawyer and asked them about this and they said "don't worry, they accept co-sponsors. Technically they don't but as long as your co-sponsor is sufficient, then it's fine", which they were right.

I just asked my lawyers about co-sponsors again on Friday and they told me that the embassy views all primary sponsors the same, meaning whether you are a 40 year old mcdonalds employee or a 23 year old student, they will judge you on the same criteria as the other.

It's up to the CO's discretion as to whether or not he PERSONALLY BELIEVES your fiance will become a public charge. I think my fiance was granted her visa more because of my co-sponsor who is WELL above the poverty line. Also, she filed taxes with my dad and together their income is WAY MORE than sufficient.

Also, the lawyers said they haven't had a single case this month be denied due to a co-sponsor not being allowed.

Thank you for the time you put into finding this out. But I'm still skeptical about these facts:

1) Why is it that the embassy replied to you and me that they do not accept co-sponsors? If they do, what is the purpose of telling us that they don't?

2) From what I read in usvisa4thai.com, the CO said to the beneficiaries that co-sponsors are disallowed. And the their cases will be opened for one year for the petitioner to resubmit I-134 as the sole sponsor. If it was just 1 case, I would probably doubt it. But three people are saying the same thing. Why would they lie? If the reason was really that their co-sponsors are not good enough, all they need to do is just find another co-sponsor that's more qualified. No need to be so frustrated. Apparently, one of the girls is now filing for CR1.

Pamme,

Because technically they don't accept co-sponsors for the I-134. I asked my lawyer about this awhile ago and they said "dont worry they accept co-sponsors". My main thing was that I was wondering WHY/HOW they would change the rules in one month without warning.

No one said anything about anyone lying, or at least I didn't say that. Not sure if you're referring to me being frustrated? I am in no way frustrated as my fiance already has the visa and the only reason I am on this thread is to help you guys figure this out.

Also, an update, my lawyer sent me an email three days ago and told me that their firm has been hearing things as well about co-sponsors not being allowed. She did, however say that her last case was approved with a co-sponsor, but that was the day before she sent me the email.

[Devkpaik 1]

As I promised, I'm reporting back the status of my case.

It wasn't approved. As a full-time student, only co-sponsors who are family members are allowed. My co-sponsor was a family friend. Co-sponsors are not accepted in general except in special circumstances. The case will be opened for 1 year for me to resubmit I-134. At least, it wasn't denied. I emailed the embassy to ask if I can have my cousin as a co-sponsor. But I wonder how are they going to prove that he is my cousin.

Pamme,

Sorry to hear about that. I am just not understanding what these "special circumstances" are. I will try to look into them further to see what the embassy considers a special circumstance case.

[Devkpaik 1]

No where on th I-134 does it say that the "Sponsor" has to be the US fiance(e) that submitted the application. Would it not be acceptable for another person to sponsor the foreign fiance(e) fiancially? As long as they attest to the fact that they are willing to support the person, I don't see where it matters. I was considering doing this myself since I have been unemployeed for the past 4 months. Maybe I should attach a letter explaining why the I-134 sponsor is another person than myself.

On the other hand if all they want to see is the tax returns for the past three years, then I have that covered with over 125%.

USbride,

The thing is, the I-134 is not legally binding.

Also, I think you are a tad bit confused.

YOU as the petitioner are the PRIMARY sponsor. Your co-sponsor would be the secondary sponsor. For the I-134 you AS WELL as your co-sponsor need to fill it out.

Not sure if you understood that and just worded it wrong, but just wanted to tell you that.

Wait, are you 125% above the poverty limit anyways? If so, why are you needing a co-sponsor?

[Pamme 0]

From what I read, the interviewer did not even look at the co-sponsors' I-134. Thus, I believe that in those particular cases, co-sponsors are disallowed. The petitioners are in the similar situation: working men and lower income (did not meet the poverty level). I did some more reading in VJ and this is what I found. The US embassy has the discretion to determine if co-sponsors are allowed. The law does not state that you can have co-sponsor or you can't. US embassy in Hanoi and Manila will tell you that co-sponsors are not allowed. However, they do accept it under special circumstances. And this is not new. Some of the posts were in 2006. Well, this is what the embassy replied to someone here in VJ. So, I think it's credible. And it makes sense because littleasianman7 was told in the email from the US embassy that they don't accept co-sponsor. Nevertheless, they do during the interview. Therefore, I believe littleasianman7's case is one of special circumstances.

My fiance will have his interview on Aug 20th. I'm also a student and I'm relying on my co-sponsor to get the visa approved. Unlike littleasianman7, my co-sponsor is a family friend. So I think this will very much diminish my chances of having them accept the co-sponsor. I will definitely let you know if my theory is correct.

Also, I can't find the post about co-sponsor in Hanoi and Manila. I post it when I find it.

Pamme,

Here's the thing about "special cases". Before I started the process, I asked my lawyer about whether or not co-sponsors were accepted in Thailand, and they told me "yes". They also told me that, of course, the co-sponsors needs to be 125% above the poverty line, etc., but that in general they are accepted.

When I emailed the embassy before my fiance's interview asking them about whether or not they accept co-sponsors, they responded by telling me they DO NOT accept co-sponsors. I called my lawyer and asked them about this and they said "don't worry, they accept co-sponsors. Technically they don't but as long as your co-sponsor is sufficient, then it's fine", which they were right.

I just asked my lawyers about co-sponsors again on Friday and they told me that the embassy views all primary sponsors the same, meaning whether you are a 40 year old mcdonalds employee or a 23 year old student, they will judge you on the same criteria as the other.

It's up to the CO's discretion as to whether or not he PERSONALLY BELIEVES your fiance will become a public charge. I think my fiance was granted her visa more because of my co-sponsor who is WELL above the poverty line. Also, she filed taxes with my dad and together their income is WAY MORE than sufficient.

Also, the lawyers said they haven't had a single case this month be denied due to a co-sponsor not being allowed.

Thank you for the time you put into finding this out. But I'm still skeptical about these facts:

1) Why is it that the embassy replied to you and me that they do not accept co-sponsors? If they do, what is the purpose of telling us that they don't?

2) From what I read in usvisa4thai.com, the CO said to the beneficiaries that co-sponsors are disallowed. And the their cases will be opened for one year for the petitioner to resubmit I-134 as the sole sponsor. If it was just 1 case, I would probably doubt it. But three people are saying the same thing. Why would they lie? If the reason was really that their co-sponsors are not good enough, all they need to do is just find another co-sponsor that's more qualified. No need to be so frustrated. Apparently, one of the girls is now filing for CR1.

Pamme,

Because technically they don't accept co-sponsors for the I-134. I asked my lawyer about this awhile ago and they said "dont worry they accept co-sponsors". My main thing was that I was wondering WHY/HOW they would change the rules in one month without warning.

No one said anything about anyone lying, or at least I didn't say that. Not sure if you're referring to me being frustrated? I am in no way frustrated as my fiance already has the visa and the only reason I am on this thread is to help you guys figure this out.

Also, an update, my lawyer sent me an email three days ago and told me that their firm has been hearing things as well about co-sponsors not being allowed. She did, however say that her last case was approved with a co-sponsor, but that was the day before she sent me the email.

I really appreciate all the input everyone contribute on VJ. I'm sorry if I offend anyone. What I was trying to say is that co-sponsors issue seems legit.