Russian news agency: Tskhinvali has been destroyed, 2000 dead

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Georgia's parliament Saturday approved a request by President Mikhail Saakashvili's to impose a "state of war," as the conflict between Georgia and Russia escalated, Georgian officials said.

Saakashvili accused Russia of launching an unprovoked full-scale military attack against his country, including targeting civilian homes, while Russian officials insist their troops were protecting people from Georgia's attacks on South Ossetia, a breakaway Georgian region that borders Russia.

Russia's Interfax news agency said the death toll was at least 2,000 killed in the capital of South Ossetia and claimed the city has been destroyed.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/08/09...etia/index.html

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Is that 2,000 civilian or military battle deaths?

I read another report that said Isreal is supporting Georgia.

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Is that 2,000 civilian or military battle deaths?

If I find a pie chart, I'll post it for ya

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Get cracken.

[peejay 327]

Another reason why the USA should shun these additions to NATO which clearly are symbolic, but put the USA into military obligations which are of dubious strategic interests to America. Probably another reason why the USA should rethink its military obligations from these treaties. Are we really getting any bang for our buck?

Georgia among other former USSR and Warsaw Pact nations have or wish to join NATO.

In other words...are you willing to die to defend Georgia? Are you willing to die to defend Europe? That is what these treaties obligate us to do.

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Another reason why the USA should shun these additions to NATO which clearly are symbolic, but put the USA into military obligations which are of dubious strategic interests to America. Probably another reason why the USA should rethink its military obligations from these treaties. Are we really getting any bang for our buck?

Georgia among other former USSR and Warsaw Pact nations have or wish to join NATO.

In other words...are you willing to die to defend Georgia? Are you willing to die to defend Europe? That is what these treaties obligate us to do.

I think Georgia (or any other country) should not be admitted to NATO if it has significant instability.

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Is that 2,000 civilian or military battle deaths?

"Dozens of Russian warplanes bombed civilian and military targets"

"Frankly, we have not expected the Russian invaders to hit our residential buildings, to hit our peaceful cities, to hit our peaceful citizens,"

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maybe timing has to do with the Olympics? everyone is watching TV and they think no one is going to miss Georgia being off the map, and Russia a little larger?

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Is that 2,000 civilian or military battle deaths?

"Dozens of Russian warplanes bombed civilian and military targets"

"Frankly, we have not expected the Russian invaders to hit our residential buildings, to hit our peaceful cities, to hit our peaceful citizens,"

DId you happen to skip the part where Georgian "Grad" leveled the whole city? Leaving 1600 dead?

[Pooky 3,792]

South Ossetia and Abkhazia are Georgian sovereign soil. Russia is in the process of invading another country. And you're saying it's wrong for Georgia to take on separatists within its own borders? Remember Chechnya and the mess there. Didn't seem to concern the Russians that they were bombing and shooting civilians there.

As for timing this assault to coincide with the Olympics, the world is a much different place now than it was in 1956, with the British and French fiasco in the Suez served as a perfect distraction for the Soviet invasion of Hungary. Now we have instant access to news and the world is watching Russia throwing its weight around again. This time, maybe Russia will not get away with it.

For those who cast doubt on the value of NATO, dream on if you think isolationism will work in the 21st Century. You make friends in this world, then you defend them and they defend you. Afghanistan is a NATO operation.

In the end, it all boils down to one thing. Oil. If the Georgian had their way, the oil that passes through their territory would be routed down through Turkey. Russia is peeved at this thought, as they would lose control, so they are out to teach the Georgians a lesson in power. No oil, no Russian support of the Georgian separatists. End of.

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If the Georgian had their way, the oil that passes through their territory would be routed down through Turkey. Russia is peeved at this thought, as they would lose control, so they are out to teach the Georgians a lesson in power.

:thumbs:

[Brad and Vika 129]

We are having the same debate here: http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=143564

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South Ossetia and Abkhazia are Georgian sovereign soil. Russia is in the process of invading another country. And you're saying it's wrong for Georgia to take on separatists within its own borders? Remember Chechnya and the mess there. Didn't seem to concern the Russians that they were bombing and shooting civilians there.

As for timing this assault to coincide with the Olympics, the world is a much different place now than it was in 1956, with the British and French fiasco in the Suez served as a perfect distraction for the Soviet invasion of Hungary. Now we have instant access to news and the world is watching Russia throwing its weight around again. This time, maybe Russia will not get away with it.

For those who cast doubt on the value of NATO, dream on if you think isolationism will work in the 21st Century. You make friends in this world, then you defend them and they defend you. Afghanistan is a NATO operation.

In the end, it all boils down to one thing. Oil. If the Georgian had their way, the oil that passes through their territory would be routed down through Turkey. Russia is peeved at this thought, as they would lose control, so they are out to teach the Georgians a lesson in power. No oil, no Russian support of the Georgian separatists. End of.

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Typical western logic. And there is no OIL pipeline in Osetia. These theories are seriously out of the blue, no proof. Its almost as bad as George Bush caused 9/11 so he could attack Iraq...

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Here we go...

[Brad and Vika 129]

Here we go...

Rabid Putinists are easy....