Israel backs Georgia in Caspian Oil Pipeline Battle with Russia

[Pooky 3,787]

Personal attacks are never warranted. Be civil in your replies or this will go to the Mods.

[Brad and Vika 129]

Ossetians didnt commit any terrorist actions against georgia, while Chechens did against Russia. Actually there is genocide going on in Georgia since '92 and nobody gives a #### especially in the west. All the media outlets sees Russia as the bad guy, but if you dig deep in to the history you can find out all of this has been boiling for a while and what was really going on that Western media doesnt seem to ever notice.

The west only sees what it wants to see, believe me I do understand that. You'r 110% correct, all I've been seeing on the news is that.. Russia is some kind of bad guy, the big bully. There's no facts just frantic sensationalism about whats going on.

So, what's the difference between Chechnya and the provinces of South Ossetia and Abkhazia?

Oh, that's right. Chechnya is in Russia, so the separatists there need to be bombed and shot by the Russian military, whereas South Ossetia and Abkhazia aren't in Russia, they're in a neighbouring country, so the separatists there are heroic freedom fighters who need Russian protection and support.

Two-faced much?

P

Difference? Simple Chechens were doing terrorist activities in other cities outside of Chechnya. Please learn difference between SEPARATISTS AND TERRORISTS.

Depends on whether you are one of the separatists, or of the country from which they want to separate. Still doesn't excuse the Russian brutality in Chechnya, or their attack on Georgia. ANd if you think this conflict is about the separatists/terrorists in South Ossetia, you are very much mistaken. It's about power and oil.

P

Wasn't the invasion of Iraq about Power and Oil, I mean do get me wrong.. Whats good for the goose...

I never commented on Iraq, as it was OT for this thread. I never agreed with the Iraq thing either. Afghanistan, yes. Iraq, no.

like I said, whats good for the goose...

You are arguing both directions here - both seem to be pro-Russia. Nothing wrong with liking Russia, but by your logic, the only thing keeping the US out of Iran is a few American passports. So if the US starts issuing passports to more Iraqis, we can protect our "peacekeepers" by bombing the s#&t out of Iran, right?

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C'mon, people - the mods only know how to shut threads down, they don't actually moderate. Don't take this to the mods, figure this out amongst yourselves.

[Brad and Vika 129]

Personal attacks are never warranted. Be civil in your replies or this will go to the Mods.

Don't sweat it Pooky. Read the other threads on the subject today. Ilya isn't really mad until you start hearing calls for you to "do your research". Of course, none will be offered for the other point of view.

A.J. has done a great job of sowing the seeds of conflict today. Tip'o'the hat to you Troll-dude.

[aidan80 9]

Ossetians didnt commit any terrorist actions against georgia, while Chechens did against Russia. Actually there is genocide going on in Georgia since '92 and nobody gives a #### especially in the west. All the media outlets sees Russia as the bad guy, but if you dig deep in to the history you can find out all of this has been boiling for a while and what was really going on that Western media doesnt seem to ever notice.

The west only sees what it wants to see, believe me I do understand that. You'r 110% correct, all I've been seeing on the news is that.. Russia is some kind of bad guy, the big bully. There's no facts just frantic sensationalism about whats going on.

So, what's the difference between Chechnya and the provinces of South Ossetia and Abkhazia?

Oh, that's right. Chechnya is in Russia, so the separatists there need to be bombed and shot by the Russian military, whereas South Ossetia and Abkhazia aren't in Russia, they're in a neighbouring country, so the separatists there are heroic freedom fighters who need Russian protection and support.

Two-faced much?

P

Difference? Simple Chechens were doing terrorist activities in other cities outside of Chechnya. Please learn difference between SEPARATISTS AND TERRORISTS.

Depends on whether you are one of the separatists, or of the country from which they want to separate. Still doesn't excuse the Russian brutality in Chechnya, or their attack on Georgia. ANd if you think this conflict is about the separatists/terrorists in South Ossetia, you are very much mistaken. It's about power and oil.

P

Wasn't the invasion of Iraq about Power and Oil, I mean do get me wrong.. Whats good for the goose...

I never commented on Iraq, as it was OT for this thread. I never agreed with the Iraq thing either. Afghanistan, yes. Iraq, no.

like I said, whats good for the goose...

You are arguing both directions here - both seem to be pro-Russia. Nothing wrong with liking Russia, but by your logic, the only thing keeping the US out of Iran is a few American passports. So if the US starts issuing passports to more Iraqis, we can protect our "peacekeepers" by bombing the s#&t out of Iran, right?

No I'm arguing one direction which is.. if a bunch of people want to be independent and free then they should be afforded that right. All I was stating was the obvious about possibly both situations in both Iraq and Georgia.. money, dirty filthy money.. it's been the reasons for more wars than anyone can count I'm sure.

Look I only wanted to give an opinion, I didn't come on to get into one of these small minded fights.

[Brad and Vika 129]

Ossetians didnt commit any terrorist actions against georgia, while Chechens did against Russia. Actually there is genocide going on in Georgia since '92 and nobody gives a #### especially in the west. All the media outlets sees Russia as the bad guy, but if you dig deep in to the history you can find out all of this has been boiling for a while and what was really going on that Western media doesnt seem to ever notice.

The west only sees what it wants to see, believe me I do understand that. You'r 110% correct, all I've been seeing on the news is that.. Russia is some kind of bad guy, the big bully. There's no facts just frantic sensationalism about whats going on.

So, what's the difference between Chechnya and the provinces of South Ossetia and Abkhazia?

Oh, that's right. Chechnya is in Russia, so the separatists there need to be bombed and shot by the Russian military, whereas South Ossetia and Abkhazia aren't in Russia, they're in a neighbouring country, so the separatists there are heroic freedom fighters who need Russian protection and support.

Two-faced much?

P

Difference? Simple Chechens were doing terrorist activities in other cities outside of Chechnya. Please learn difference between SEPARATISTS AND TERRORISTS.

Depends on whether you are one of the separatists, or of the country from which they want to separate. Still doesn't excuse the Russian brutality in Chechnya, or their attack on Georgia. ANd if you think this conflict is about the separatists/terrorists in South Ossetia, you are very much mistaken. It's about power and oil.

P

Wasn't the invasion of Iraq about Power and Oil, I mean do get me wrong.. Whats good for the goose...

I never commented on Iraq, as it was OT for this thread. I never agreed with the Iraq thing either. Afghanistan, yes. Iraq, no.

like I said, whats good for the goose...

You are arguing both directions here - both seem to be pro-Russia. Nothing wrong with liking Russia, but by your logic, the only thing keeping the US out of Iran is a few American passports. So if the US starts issuing passports to more Iraqis, we can protect our "peacekeepers" by bombing the s#&t out of Iran, right?

No I'm arguing one direction which is.. if a bunch of people want to be independent and free then they should be afforded that right. All I was stating was the obvious about possibly both situations in both Iraq and Georgia.. money, dirty filthy money.. it's been the reasons for more wars than anyone can count I'm sure.

Look I only wanted to give an opinion, I didn't come on to get into one of these small minded fights.

How about a really large-minded fight? Seriously, I respect your opinion, and agree completely about money. Ilya and I have been sparring all day about this on several forums - didn't mean to get carried away with you. All in good fun

[Pooky 3,787]

Ossetians didnt commit any terrorist actions against georgia, while Chechens did against Russia. Actually there is genocide going on in Georgia since '92 and nobody gives a #### especially in the west. All the media outlets sees Russia as the bad guy, but if you dig deep in to the history you can find out all of this has been boiling for a while and what was really going on that Western media doesnt seem to ever notice.

The west only sees what it wants to see, believe me I do understand that. You'r 110% correct, all I've been seeing on the news is that.. Russia is some kind of bad guy, the big bully. There's no facts just frantic sensationalism about whats going on.

So, what's the difference between Chechnya and the provinces of South Ossetia and Abkhazia?

Oh, that's right. Chechnya is in Russia, so the separatists there need to be bombed and shot by the Russian military, whereas South Ossetia and Abkhazia aren't in Russia, they're in a neighbouring country, so the separatists there are heroic freedom fighters who need Russian protection and support.

Two-faced much?

P

Difference? Simple Chechens were doing terrorist activities in other cities outside of Chechnya. Please learn difference between SEPARATISTS AND TERRORISTS.

Depends on whether you are one of the separatists, or of the country from which they want to separate. Still doesn't excuse the Russian brutality in Chechnya, or their attack on Georgia. ANd if you think this conflict is about the separatists/terrorists in South Ossetia, you are very much mistaken. It's about power and oil.

P

Wasn't the invasion of Iraq about Power and Oil, I mean do get me wrong.. Whats good for the goose...

I never commented on Iraq, as it was OT for this thread. I never agreed with the Iraq thing either. Afghanistan, yes. Iraq, no.

like I said, whats good for the goose...

You are arguing both directions here - both seem to be pro-Russia. Nothing wrong with liking Russia, but by your logic, the only thing keeping the US out of Iran is a few American passports. So if the US starts issuing passports to more Iraqis, we can protect our "peacekeepers" by bombing the s#&t out of Iran, right?

No I'm arguing one direction which is.. if a bunch of people want to be independent and free then they should be afforded that right. All I was stating was the obvious about possibly both situations in both Iraq and Georgia.. money, dirty filthy money.. it's been the reasons for more wars than anyone can count I'm sure.

Look I only wanted to give an opinion, I didn't come on to get into one of these small minded fights.

How about a really large-minded fight? Seriously, I respect your opinion, and agree completely about money. Ilya and I have been sparring all day about this on several forums - didn't mean to get carried away with you. All in good fun

Don't large-minded fights need people with big heads?

[aidan80 9]

How about a really large-minded fight? Seriously, I respect your opinion, and agree completely about money. Ilya and I have been sparring all day about this on several forums - didn't mean to get carried away with you. All in good fun

No don't my brain hurts enough already I can understand and respect your opinion as well. I agree, it's been a lot of fun!

Edited August 10, 2008 by aidan80

[Brad and Vika 129]

Don't large-minded fights need people with big heads?

Just big minds....plenty of those around here