Israel backs Georgia in Caspian Oil Pipeline Battle with Russia

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Georgian tanks and infantry, aided by Israeli military advisers, captured the capital of breakaway South Ossetia, Tskhinvali, early Friday, Aug. 8, bringing the Georgian-Russian conflict over the province to a military climax.

Russian prime minister Vladimir Putin threatened a “military response.”

Former Soviet Georgia called up its military reserves after Russian warplanes bombed its new positions in the renegade province.

In Moscow’s first response to the fall of Tskhinvali, president Dimitry Medvedev ordered the Russian army to prepare for a national emergency after calling the UN Security Council into emergency session early Friday.

Reinforcements were rushed to the Russian “peacekeeping force” present in the region to support the separatists.

Georgian tanks entered the capital after heavy overnight heavy aerial strikes, in which dozens of people were killed.

Lado Gurgenidze, Georgia's prime minister, said on Friday that Georgia will continue its military operation in South Ossetia until a "durable peace" is reached. "As soon as a durable peace takes hold we need to move forward with dialogue and peaceful negotiations."

DEBKAfile’s geopolitical experts note that on the surface level, the Russians are backing the separatists of S. Ossetia and neighboring Abkhazia as payback for the strengthening of American influence in tiny Georgia and its 4.5 million inhabitants. However, more immediately, the conflict has been sparked by the race for control over the pipelines carrying oil and gas out of the Caspian region.

The Russians may just bear with the pro-US Georgian president Mikhail Saakashvili’s ambition to bring his country into NATO. But they draw a heavy line against his plans and those of Western oil companies, including Israeli firms, to route the oil routes from Azerbaijan and the gas lines from Turkmenistan, which transit Georgia, through Turkey instead of hooking them up to Russian pipelines.

Saakashvili need only back away from this plan for Moscow to ditch the two provinces’ revolt against Tbilisi. As long as he sticks to his guns, South Ossetia and Abkhazia will wage separatist wars.

DEBKAfile discloses Israel’s interest in the conflict from its exclusive military sources:

Jerusalem owns a strong interest in Caspian oil and gas pipelines reach the Turkish terminal port of Ceyhan, rather than the Russian network. Intense negotiations are afoot between Israel Turkey, Georgia, Turkmenistan and Azarbaijan for pipelines to reach Turkey and thence to Israel’s oil terminal at Ashkelon and on to its Red Sea port of Eilat. From there, supertankers can carry the gas and oil to the Far East through the Indian Ocean.

Aware of Moscow’s sensitivity on the oil question, Israel offered Russia a stake in the project but was rejected.

Last year, the Georgian president commissioned from private Israeli security firms several hundred military advisers, estimated at up to 1,000, to train the Georgian armed forces in commando, air, sea, armored and artillery combat tactics. They also offer instruction on military intelligence and security for the central regime. Tbilisi also purchased weapons, intelligence and electronic warfare systems from Israel.

These advisers were undoubtedly deeply involved in the Georgian army’s preparations to conquer the South Ossetian capital Friday.

In recent weeks, Moscow has repeatedly demanded that Jerusalem halt its military assistance to Georgia, finally threatening a crisis in bilateral relations. Israel responded by saying that the only assistance rendered Tbilisi was “defensive.”

This has not gone down well in the Kremlin. Therefore, as the military crisis intensifies in South Ossetia, Moscow may be expected to punish Israel for its intervention.

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[Nagishkaw 510]

....." Moscow may be expected to punish Israel for its intervention."

That has been prophesied for thousands of years, so there is no ' maybe' .

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

....." Moscow may be expected to punish Israel for its intervention."

That has been prophesied for thousands of years, so there is no ' maybe' .

exactly

[Pooky 3,787]

So, what's the difference between Chechnya and the provinces of South Ossetia and Abkhazia?

Oh, that's right. Chechnya is in Russia, so the separatists there need to be bombed and shot by the Russian military, whereas South Ossetia and Abkhazia aren't in Russia, they're in a neighbouring country, so the separatists there are heroic freedom fighters who need Russian protection and support.

Two-faced much?

P

[Ilya R. 0]

So, what's the difference between Chechnya and the provinces of South Ossetia and Abkhazia?

Oh, that's right. Chechnya is in Russia, so the separatists there need to be bombed and shot by the Russian military, whereas South Ossetia and Abkhazia aren't in Russia, they're in a neighbouring country, so the separatists there are heroic freedom fighters who need Russian protection and support.

Two-faced much?

P

Difference? Simple Chechens were doing terrorist activities in other cities outside of Chechnya. Please learn difference between SEPARATISTS AND TERRORISTS.

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

Oh well here is the other report I was talking about.

[Pooky 3,787]

So, what's the difference between Chechnya and the provinces of South Ossetia and Abkhazia?

Oh, that's right. Chechnya is in Russia, so the separatists there need to be bombed and shot by the Russian military, whereas South Ossetia and Abkhazia aren't in Russia, they're in a neighbouring country, so the separatists there are heroic freedom fighters who need Russian protection and support.

Two-faced much?

P

Difference? Simple Chechens were doing terrorist activities in other cities outside of Chechnya. Please learn difference between SEPARATISTS AND TERRORISTS.

Depends on whether you are one of the separatists, or of the country from which they want to separate. Still doesn't excuse the Russian brutality in Chechnya, or their attack on Georgia. ANd if you think this conflict is about the separatists/terrorists in South Ossetia, you are very much mistaken. It's about power and oil.

P

[peejay 327]

So, what's the difference between Chechnya and the provinces of South Ossetia and Abkhazia?

Oh, that's right. Chechnya is in Russia, so the separatists there need to be bombed and shot by the Russian military, whereas South Ossetia and Abkhazia aren't in Russia, they're in a neighbouring country, so the separatists there are heroic freedom fighters who need Russian protection and support.

Two-faced much?

P

Difference? Simple Chechens were doing terrorist activities in other cities outside of Chechnya. Please learn difference between SEPARATISTS AND TERRORISTS.

Depends on whether you are one of the separatists, or of the country from which they want to separate. Still doesn't excuse the Russian brutality in Chechnya, or their attack on Georgia. ANd if you think this conflict is about the separatists/terrorists in South Ossetia, you are very much mistaken. It's about power and oil.

P

Same can be said for Iraq. Does anyone really believe the USA is in Iraq for freedom and democracy?

[Ilya R. 0]

So, what's the difference between Chechnya and the provinces of South Ossetia and Abkhazia?

Oh, that's right. Chechnya is in Russia, so the separatists there need to be bombed and shot by the Russian military, whereas South Ossetia and Abkhazia aren't in Russia, they're in a neighbouring country, so the separatists there are heroic freedom fighters who need Russian protection and support.

Two-faced much?

P

Difference? Simple Chechens were doing terrorist activities in other cities outside of Chechnya. Please learn difference between SEPARATISTS AND TERRORISTS.

Depends on whether you are one of the separatists, or of the country from which they want to separate. Still doesn't excuse the Russian brutality in Chechnya, or their attack on Georgia. ANd if you think this conflict is about the separatists/terrorists in South Ossetia, you are very much mistaken. It's about power and oil.

P

Ossetians didnt commit any terrorist actions against georgia, while Chechens did against Russia. Actually there is genocide going on in Georgia since '92 and nobody gives a #### especially in the west. All the media outlets sees Russia as the bad guy, but if you dig deep in to the history you can find out all of this has been boiling for a while and what was really going on that Western media doesnt seem to ever notice.

[aidan80 9]

So, what's the difference between Chechnya and the provinces of South Ossetia and Abkhazia?

Oh, that's right. Chechnya is in Russia, so the separatists there need to be bombed and shot by the Russian military, whereas South Ossetia and Abkhazia aren't in Russia, they're in a neighbouring country, so the separatists there are heroic freedom fighters who need Russian protection and support.

Two-faced much?

P

I disagree, what was happening (from my understanding of it) in Chechnya was they had terrorists coming in the back door by the bucket load. Them b@astard where sneaking in and killing innocent civillians right left and center. The Russian's rightfully went in and cleaned up the place as expected, no more terrorists? You can't just lay down to terrorism either domestic or foreign it needs to be destroyed.

[aidan80 9]

So, what's the difference between Chechnya and the provinces of South Ossetia and Abkhazia?

Oh, that's right. Chechnya is in Russia, so the separatists there need to be bombed and shot by the Russian military, whereas South Ossetia and Abkhazia aren't in Russia, they're in a neighbouring country, so the separatists there are heroic freedom fighters who need Russian protection and support.

Two-faced much?

P

Difference? Simple Chechens were doing terrorist activities in other cities outside of Chechnya. Please learn difference between SEPARATISTS AND TERRORISTS.

Depends on whether you are one of the separatists, or of the country from which they want to separate. Still doesn't excuse the Russian brutality in Chechnya, or their attack on Georgia. ANd if you think this conflict is about the separatists/terrorists in South Ossetia, you are very much mistaken. It's about power and oil.

P

Wasn't the invasion of Iraq about Power and Oil, I mean do get me wrong.. Whats good for the goose...

[Pooky 3,787]

So, what's the difference between Chechnya and the provinces of South Ossetia and Abkhazia?

Oh, that's right. Chechnya is in Russia, so the separatists there need to be bombed and shot by the Russian military, whereas South Ossetia and Abkhazia aren't in Russia, they're in a neighbouring country, so the separatists there are heroic freedom fighters who need Russian protection and support.

Two-faced much?

P

I disagree, what was happening (from my understanding of it) in Chechnya was they had terrorists coming in the back door by the bucket load. Them b@astard where sneaking in and killing innocent civillians right left and center. The Russian's rightfully went in and cleaned up the place as expected, no more terrorists? You can't just lay down to terrorism either domestic or foreign it needs to be destroyed.

But elsewhere, you have also said that Russia is right to go into sovereign Georgian territory to support/liberate the separatists and that Georgia is wrong to try and regain contol of areas of its own territory. So who is right?

And the separatists were getting a "bucket load" of support from Russia, down to granting them Russia passports, so as to give Russia a pretext to commence military action it it ever felt the desire to do so.

[Pooky 3,787]

So, what's the difference between Chechnya and the provinces of South Ossetia and Abkhazia?

Oh, that's right. Chechnya is in Russia, so the separatists there need to be bombed and shot by the Russian military, whereas South Ossetia and Abkhazia aren't in Russia, they're in a neighbouring country, so the separatists there are heroic freedom fighters who need Russian protection and support.

Two-faced much?

P

Difference? Simple Chechens were doing terrorist activities in other cities outside of Chechnya. Please learn difference between SEPARATISTS AND TERRORISTS.

Depends on whether you are one of the separatists, or of the country from which they want to separate. Still doesn't excuse the Russian brutality in Chechnya, or their attack on Georgia. ANd if you think this conflict is about the separatists/terrorists in South Ossetia, you are very much mistaken. It's about power and oil.

P

Wasn't the invasion of Iraq about Power and Oil, I mean do get me wrong.. Whats good for the goose...

I never commented on Iraq, as it was OT for this thread. I never agreed with the Iraq thing either. Afghanistan, yes. Iraq, no.

[aidan80 9]

Ossetians didnt commit any terrorist actions against georgia, while Chechens did against Russia. Actually there is genocide going on in Georgia since '92 and nobody gives a #### especially in the west. All the media outlets sees Russia as the bad guy, but if you dig deep in to the history you can find out all of this has been boiling for a while and what was really going on that Western media doesnt seem to ever notice.

The west only sees what it wants to see, believe me I do understand that. You'r 110% correct, all I've been seeing on the news is that.. Russia is some kind of bad guy, the big bully. There's no facts just frantic sensationalism about whats going on.

So, what's the difference between Chechnya and the provinces of South Ossetia and Abkhazia?

Oh, that's right. Chechnya is in Russia, so the separatists there need to be bombed and shot by the Russian military, whereas South Ossetia and Abkhazia aren't in Russia, they're in a neighbouring country, so the separatists there are heroic freedom fighters who need Russian protection and support.

Two-faced much?

P

Difference? Simple Chechens were doing terrorist activities in other cities outside of Chechnya. Please learn difference between SEPARATISTS AND TERRORISTS.

Depends on whether you are one of the separatists, or of the country from which they want to separate. Still doesn't excuse the Russian brutality in Chechnya, or their attack on Georgia. ANd if you think this conflict is about the separatists/terrorists in South Ossetia, you are very much mistaken. It's about power and oil.

P

Wasn't the invasion of Iraq about Power and Oil, I mean do get me wrong.. Whats good for the goose...

I never commented on Iraq, as it was OT for this thread. I never agreed with the Iraq thing either. Afghanistan, yes. Iraq, no.

like I said, whats good for the goose...

[Ilya R. 0]

So, what's the difference between Chechnya and the provinces of South Ossetia and Abkhazia?

Oh, that's right. Chechnya is in Russia, so the separatists there need to be bombed and shot by the Russian military, whereas South Ossetia and Abkhazia aren't in Russia, they're in a neighbouring country, so the separatists there are heroic freedom fighters who need Russian protection and support.

Two-faced much?

P

I disagree, what was happening (from my understanding of it) in Chechnya was they had terrorists coming in the back door by the bucket load. Them b@astard where sneaking in and killing innocent civillians right left and center. The Russian's rightfully went in and cleaned up the place as expected, no more terrorists? You can't just lay down to terrorism either domestic or foreign it needs to be destroyed.

But elsewhere, you have also said that Russia is right to go into sovereign Georgian territory to support/liberate the separatists and that Georgia is wrong to try and regain contol of areas of its own territory. So who is right?

And the separatists were getting a "bucket load" of support from Russia, down to granting them Russia passports, so as to give Russia a pretext to commence military action it it ever felt the desire to do so.

Ignorance, is that your middle name?