NBI or NSO

[kalapino 0]

Our K1 interview is next week. Her NBI clearance lists her as single (which is correct) but her NSO birth certificate for her child lists her and the father as married. Obviously if she was married the NBI would state she was.

We listed the child on the application and now she is required to bring his birth certificate.

We see a potential problem. But I think that the NBI has more authority and the embassy will believe it more than a birth certificate, Is this a good assumption or not?

Any advice?

Thanks

[filirican 3]

she will get CENOMAR from NSO stating she has never been married that when the embassy would verify her papers if it is valid...good luck!

[boyceedith 0]

hello...you can apply nbi clearance either your married or single name if you want...but at the nso when you are registered as married ,it would really come out that you are married....the best thing to do is to get cenomar for her...and about her kid if she was not really married to the father then maybe you need to file pettition for that error....im sure later somebody will give more accurate info than i do

[envy_me 18]

she must have written single during her NBI application..

i agree with boyceedith, the NSO got records if ur married or not..

if she's never married then she has to correct that with NSO.. IMO..

goodluck..

[raquel_1208 1]

CENOMAR or certificate of no marriage will show if she is really married. Doing background checks if she is single or if previous marriage was terminated are just a couple of the major factors that delays the visa. Just to be on the safe side, bring the CENOMAR on her interview. It only takes 2-3 days to get one.

[raquel_1208 1]

hello...you can apply nbi clearance either your married or single name if you want...but at the nso when you are registered as married ,it would really come out that you are married....the best thing to do is to get cenomar for her...and about her kid if she was not really married to the father then maybe you need to file pettition for that error....im sure later somebody will give more accurate info than i do

Some local civil registrar does not allow the mother to have the name of the child's last name to be the same as the father unless they are married so they lie about it. I am assuming same thing happens to the fiancee long ago.

Edited August 8, 2008 by raquel_1208

[dbears 1]

Our K1 interview is next week. Her NBI clearance lists her as single (which is correct) but her NSO birth certificate for her child lists her and the father as married. Obviously if she was married the NBI would state she was.

We listed the child on the application and now she is required to bring his birth certificate.

We see a potential problem. But I think that the NBI has more authority and the embassy will believe it more than a birth certificate, Is this a good assumption or not?

Any advice?

Thanks

NBI will not state whether she was married or not, unless she will specifically state that she is married and will apply for NBI clearance under her married name.

NBI is for criminal records while NSO is for civil registry records: birth certificates, marriage certificates, death certificates, etc. Both hold the same authority for their respective purpose.

You would need to ask her if she was married or not? If she was not married then she needs to have the kid's birth certificate ammended. If she was previously married but the marriage was annulled or nullified then she only needs to bring her annulment papers during interview.

I hope everything will be sorted out soon. Good luck and God bless.

[dbears 1]

Some local civil registrar does not allow the mother to have the name of the child's last name to be the same as the father unless they are married so they lie about it. I am assuming same thing happens to the fiancee long ago.

It could be true before the family code was amended.

Article 176 of the Family code states that:

"Illegitimate children shall use the surname and shall be under the parental authority of their mother, and shall be entitled to support in conformity with this Code. The legitime of each illegitimate child shall consist of one-half of the legitime of a legitimate child."

And so some couple need to lie if they were desperate for the child to use the father's surname but the need to lie for that reason has been eliminated by the enactment of R.A. 9255 (An Act Allowing Illegitimate Children to Use the Surname of their Father). This new law took effect March 19, 2004 and which also covers those illigitimate children who were born prior to the enactment of the law. (http://www.census.gov.ph/data/civilreg/irr_ra9255.html)

We don't know how old the fiancee's baby is and we still don't know the whole story... she and the father of the child may have lied or may have not. Regardless, she should have this sorted out prior to her interview.

[kalapino 0]

I need a little more advice on this.

She found out that her child's Lolo who used to work at city hall "changed" the birth certificate to show that the parents were married.

He says he did this for the child because he wanted the baby to have more advantages in life.

there is also a resgristration number for a marriage on the birth certificate.

this is a little crazy to me.

she is going to NSO first thing Monday morning to apply for CENOMAR.

whats the likelihood that the NSO has recieved notification from the local city hall and they consider her married? how long does it take to get an anullment in philippines?

I am trying to stay calm and relaxed about this.

Our interview is in 4 days.