Man held in Fla. on charge of threatening Obama

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MIAMI - A man who authorities said was keeping weapons and military-style gear in his hotel room and car appeared in court Thursday on charges he threatened to assassinate Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.

Raymond Hunter Geisel, 22, was arrested by the Secret Service on Saturday in Miami and was ordered held at Miami's downtown detention center without bail Thursday by a federal magistrate.

A Secret Service affidavit charges that Geisel made the threat during a training class for bail bondsmen in Miami in late July. According to someone else in the 48-member class, Geisel allegedly referred to Obama with a racial epithet and continued, "If he gets elected, I'll assassinate him myself."

Obama was most recently in Florida on Aug. 1-2 but did not visit the South Florida area.

Another person in the class quoted Geisel as saying that "he hated George W. Bush and that he wanted to put a bullet in the president's head," according to the Secret Service.

Geisel denied in a written statement to a Secret Service agent that he ever made those threats, and the documents don't indicate that he ever took steps to carry out any assassination. He was charged only with threatening Obama, the presumptive Democratic nominee, but not for any threat against President Bush.

Geisel's court-appointed attorney declined comment. The charge of threatening a major candidate for president or vice president carries a maximum prison sentence of five years.

The Obama campaign declined comment Thursday on the alleged threat.

In the interview with a Secret Service agent, Geisel said "if he wanted to kill Senator Obama he simply would shoot him with a sniper rifle, but then he claimed that he was just joking," according to court documents.

A search of Geisel's 1998 Ford Explorer and hotel room in Miami uncovered a loaded 9mm handgun, knives, dozens of rounds of ammunition including armor-piercing types, body armor, military-style fatigues and a machete. The SUV, which has Maine license plates, was wired with flashing red and yellow emergency lights.

Geisel told the Secret Service he was originally from Bangor, Maine, and had been living recently in a houseboat in the Florida Keys town of Marathon, according to court documents. He said he used the handgun for training for the bail bondsman class, had the knives for protection and used the machete to cut brush in Maine.

In the affidavit, the Secret Service said Geisel told agents that he suffered from psychiatric problems including post-traumatic stress disorder, but he couldn't provide the names of any facilities where he sought treatment.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080807/ap_on_el_pr/obama_threat

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Probably not the last to do so either...

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Yeah the nutties will probably continue to come out of the woodwork with this candidate.

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zomg a 9mm handgun!

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zomg a 9mm handgun!

must be the long range sniper model ...

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zomg a 9mm handgun!

What kind of weapon did John Hinkley use?

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zomg a 9mm handgun!

What kind of weapon did John Hinkley use?

In the interview with a Secret Service agent, Geisel said "if he wanted to kill Senator Obama he simply would shoot him with a sniper rifle, but then he claimed that he was just joking," according to court documents.

guess the 9mm has been upgraded ....

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zomg a 9mm handgun!

What kind of weapon did John Hinkley use?

this isn't john hinkley, is it?

in your op:

In the interview with a Secret Service agent, Geisel said "if he wanted to kill Senator Obama he simply would shoot him with a sniper rifle, but then he claimed that he was just joking," according to court documents.

a 9mm handgun hardly qualifies as that.

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zomg a 9mm handgun!

What kind of weapon did John Hinkley use?

this isn't john hinkley, is it?

in your op:

In the interview with a Secret Service agent, Geisel said "if he wanted to kill Senator Obama he simply would shoot him with a sniper rifle, but then he claimed that he was just joking," according to court documents.

a 9mm handgun hardly qualifies as that.

So the Secret Service should let him go because of his explanation? What kind of gun was used in the assasination of Bobby Kennedy. You and Natty are assuming that it couldn't be done with 9mm, which is pretty presumptuous.

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C'mon Steven, nobody ever died from a 9mm. Heck, charlie played with a 9mm when he was 3 yrs old in Pre-K.

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THE ASSASSINATION

After a one-day stay in Hollywood and a cross-country trip by Greyhound Bus, Hinckley checked into the Park Central Hotel in Washington, D. C. on the afternoon of March 29. After a restless night, Hinckley rose the next morning for a breakfast at McDonald's. On the way back to the hotel, he picked up the Washington Star. Hinckley noticed the President's schedule, on page A-4, indicating that Reagan would be speaking to a labor convention at the Washingon Hilton in just a couple of hours. Hinckley showered, took Valium to calm himself, loaded his twenty-two with exploding Devastator bullets purchased nine months earlier at a pawn shop in Lubbock, then wrote a letter to Jodie Foster.

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At one-thirty, Hinckley took a cab through a light drizzle to the Hilton. The President waved to a crowd as he walked toward the hotel entrance at 1:45. Hinckley waved back. At 2:25, accompanied by aides and bodyguards, Reagan left the hotel and began moving towards his waiting limousine. A voice yelled, "President Reagan, President Reagan!" As the President turned in his direction, Hinckley--crouching like a marksman--emptied the six bullets in his gun in rapid succession. The first bullet tore through the brain of press secretary James Brady. The second his policeman Thomas Delahanty in the back. The third overshot the President and hit a building. The fourth shot hit secret service agent Timothy McCarthy in the chest. The fifth shot hit the bullet-proof glass of the President's limousine.

The sixth and final bullet nearly killed the President. As aides rushed to push Reagan into his car, the bullet ricocheted off the car, then hit the President in the chest, grazed a rib and lodged in his lung, just inches from his heart. At first it was assumed that the bullet missed the President, and the limousine headed for the White House. Within seconds, however, the President began coughing up blood and the limousine changed course and sped for George Washington University Hospital, where the President underwent two hours of life-saving surgery.

Hinckley was still clicking the trigger on his twenty-two when secret service agents wrestled him to the ground. An agent recalled a "desperate feeling of 'I've got to get to it and stop it.'" as he came down on Hinckley with his right arm around his head.

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/hinckley/hinckleyaccount.html

[Ban Hammer 13,352]

zomg a 9mm handgun!

What kind of weapon did John Hinkley use?

this isn't john hinkley, is it?

in your op:

In the interview with a Secret Service agent, Geisel said "if he wanted to kill Senator Obama he simply would shoot him with a sniper rifle, but then he claimed that he was just joking," according to court documents.

a 9mm handgun hardly qualifies as that.

So the Secret Service should let him go because of his explanation? What kind of gun was used in the assasination of Bobby Kennedy. You and Natty are assuming that it couldn't be done with 9mm, which is pretty presumptuous.

if he can use a 9mm handgun as a long range sniper weapon, he needs to be on the olympic team.

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zomg a 9mm handgun!

What kind of weapon did John Hinkley use?

this isn't john hinkley, is it?

in your op:

In the interview with a Secret Service agent, Geisel said "if he wanted to kill Senator Obama he simply would shoot him with a sniper rifle, but then he claimed that he was just joking," according to court documents.

a 9mm handgun hardly qualifies as that.

So the Secret Service should let him go because of his explanation? What kind of gun was used in the assasination of Bobby Kennedy. You and Natty are assuming that it couldn't be done with 9mm, which is pretty presumptuous.

if he can use a 9mm handgun as a long range sniper weapon, he needs to be on the olympic team.

boink, boink, boink.....psssst...or maybe he was planning on getting within close range?

...knives, dozens of rounds of ammunition including armor-piercing types, body armor, military-style fatigues and a machete. The SUV, which has Maine license plates, was wired with flashing red and yellow emergency lights.

What do you suppose he was up to?

[Ban Hammer 13,352]

zomg a 9mm handgun!

What kind of weapon did John Hinkley use?

this isn't john hinkley, is it?

in your op:

In the interview with a Secret Service agent, Geisel said "if he wanted to kill Senator Obama he simply would shoot him with a sniper rifle, but then he claimed that he was just joking," according to court documents.

a 9mm handgun hardly qualifies as that.

So the Secret Service should let him go because of his explanation? What kind of gun was used in the assasination of Bobby Kennedy. You and Natty are assuming that it couldn't be done with 9mm, which is pretty presumptuous.

if he can use a 9mm handgun as a long range sniper weapon, he needs to be on the olympic team.

boink, boink, boink.....psssst...or maybe he was planning on getting within close range?

a 9mm handgun does not match up with the alleged statements.

...knives, dozens of rounds of ammunition including armor-piercing types, body armor, military-style fatigues and a machete. The SUV, which has Maine license plates, was wired with flashing red and yellow emergency lights.

What do you suppose he was up to?

no telling. i'll let the fed prosecuters figure that one out.