Draft letter to senators

[okfir 0]

This delay in processing and ignoring our cases is causing us undue hardship.

Hardship? No, it's not.

It's just irritating that we paid for a service that is not being rendered. If they don't adjudicate the I-751 before it's time to file the N-400, I'd like my money back.

It is clearly known that there is no need for FBI name check for processing I-751 petitions.

Link?

Also, now that there is a new memo stating that if FBI name check has been pending over 180 days.it makes us feel as if we are criminals, terrorist

I don't think my wife would agree. USCIS delays don't impact how she feels about herself.

I have to agree with A.J. There is no hardship, and there are far worst things that make me feel like a crminal than this!

They can take all the time they want. No sweat off my brow!

opint taken. how would you word it then?

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

My letter would just say

"Yo VSC hurry the fukc up or give me my money back, bitchez!"

I hear you.

but this letter will go to the senators. lets all keep in mind it's election year and from what I heard is the we are not a priority. the working visa permit are the priority. if that's true it means we will not see any progress till the end of the elections 3-5 month from now. we must do something!!! I call everyone to work on the above draft letter so we can all send it ASAP.

You haven't answered my question.

What, precisely, is the nature of the "undue hardship"?

we all take it in our own way. what word would you put there?

thanks

i would call it an example of government embezzling citizens money.

[AussieDude 0]

This delay in processing and ignoring our cases is causing us undue hardship.

Hardship? No, it's not.

It's just irritating that we paid for a service that is not being rendered. If they don't adjudicate the I-751 before it's time to file the N-400, I'd like my money back.

It is clearly known that there is no need for FBI name check for processing I-751 petitions.

Link?

Also, now that there is a new memo stating that if FBI name check has been pending over 180 days.it makes us feel as if we are criminals, terrorist

I don't think my wife would agree. USCIS delays don't impact how she feels about herself.

I'm not saying that everyone might get concerned about how the background check makes them feel, but some people eg those from the Middle East, might be freaking out if they're caught in the name check process which seems to be next to impossible to clear up. Are people still doing the writ of mandamus thing on the FBI check?

I'm not sure that I agree that its unnecessary to have the background check. What would be more concerning (and USCIS has acknowledged this) is that if someone really is the person they matched up to on the list and it takes 3 months or more to actually verify it, this particular person is running around all that time.

I don't think there is undue hardship because of the process. I can understand if there is some anxiety if some people's relationships are a little rocky, and they're worried about the consequences of what might happen if the marriage breaks up before their conditions are removed. However, I'm guessing those only form a small number of us, and at this point they've been married 2 years or more, have already sent in plenty of evidence, and more than likely will be able to switch to a self-petition fairly easily.

I do feel the anxiety of being in a waiting situation, but with USCIS we're in the one of biggest, worst designed bureaucracies in the world, so unfortunately it is what is.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

True say, Aussie, true say.

[okfir 0]

This delay in processing and ignoring our cases is causing us undue hardship.

Hardship? No, it's not.

It's just irritating that we paid for a service that is not being rendered. If they don't adjudicate the I-751 before it's time to file the N-400, I'd like my money back.

It is clearly known that there is no need for FBI name check for processing I-751 petitions.

Link?

Also, now that there is a new memo stating that if FBI name check has been pending over 180 days.it makes us feel as if we are criminals, terrorist

I don't think my wife would agree. USCIS delays don't impact how she feels about herself.

I'm not saying that everyone might get concerned about how the background check makes them feel, but some people eg those from the Middle East, might be freaking out if they're caught in the name check process which seems to be next to impossible to clear up. Are people still doing the writ of mandamus thing on the FBI check?

I'm not sure that I agree that its unnecessary to have the background check. What would be more concerning (and USCIS has acknowledged this) is that if someone really is the person they matched up to on the list and it takes 3 months or more to actually verify it, this particular person is running around all that time.

I don't think there is undue hardship because of the process. I can understand if there is some anxiety if some people's relationships are a little rocky, and they're worried about the consequences of what might happen if the marriage breaks up before their conditions are removed. However, I'm guessing those only form a small number of us, and at this point they've been married 2 years or more, have already sent in plenty of evidence, and more than likely will be able to switch to a self-petition fairly easily.

I do feel the anxiety of being in a waiting situation, but with USCIS we're in the one of biggest, worst designed bureaucracies in the world, so unfortunately it is what is.

so you are giving up...great

what happened if you want to bring a family member? we need to do something and it's strat with writing a letter.

not all of us are young people and "time is of the assent"

[AussieDude 0]

so you are giving up...great

what happened if you want to bring a family member? we need to do something and it's strat with writing a letter.

not all of us are young people and "time is of the assent"

Giving up, no, in fact I encourage you to go ahead with the letter process. Its just that I don't think it'll have much effect. USCIS is bound by the amount of resources it has. If they shift their attention to I751s, somebody else is going to suffer.

The problem is the design of the immigration system. For example, I'm surprised that for years (and I think its still the case now), the green card lottery, a completely random system, was the only generalized intake method. Only recently, with the influx of illegal immigrants, has there been a realization that an overhaul is needed. If we really want to do something, it should be encouraging the ground up re-design of immigration, not just minor adjustments.

As for family members, I'm under the impression that unless you're a citizen, you can't do so (unless its a spouse?). And regardless of the conditional removal, you can apply for citizenship within 3 years of being a resident (assuming you're still married to the same person). Conditional removal isn't a hurdle to citizenship, and in fact applying for naturalization forces it to be adjudicated at the same time if it hasn't already happened.

[russian_armenian 4]

Conditional removal isn't a hurdle to citizenship, and in fact applying for naturalization forces it to be adjudicated at the same time if it hasn't already happened.

My understanding about N-400 and I-751... N-400 will not be adjudicated without approved I-751. The timeframe for I-751 most probably will be the same but some time savings could happen with N-400 when adjudicated at the same time. So, I would say some people could speed up a process for a few months. But I doubt that it would happen now-CIS most probably will process I-751 for about 10 mo max and probably more likely like 6-9 mo in a near future (VSC used to be 6-9 mo; very slow TSC and NSC are not processing I-751s anylonger). I just hope that N-400 will be 4-6mo like before.

[AussieDude 0]

Conditional removal isn't a hurdle to citizenship, and in fact applying for naturalization forces it to be adjudicated at the same time if it hasn't already happened.

My understanding about N-400 and I-751... N-400 will not be adjudicated without approved I-751. The timeframe for I-751 most probably will be the same but some time savings could happen with N-400 when adjudicated at the same time. So, I would say some people could speed up a process for a few months. But I doubt that it would happen now-CIS most probably will process I-751 for about 10 mo max and probably more likely like 6-9 mo in a near future (VSC used to be 6-9 mo; very slow TSC and NSC are not processing I-751s anylonger). I just hope that N-400 will be 4-6mo like before.

I must admit, I don't know terribly much about the N-400 process. I did possibly choose the wrong set of words. The 751 is actually a hurdle, but inaction on the 751 does not prevent a resident from applying for naturalization once they are eligible. (ie if you've been 3 years as the spouse of a USC, you can apply, regardless of where the 751 is).

So those wanting the benefits of a USC (such as sponsoring family members), won't really have to wait an extra period of time. (Unless doing the joint 751/N400 application is much longer than an N400 by itself)

[GregS 0]

I think the only real case someone would have for "undo hardship", is if you live in one of the states that will not renew your drivers license if your green card is expired, even if you have an NOA showing your are in process of removing conditions. If your job requires you to have an valid drivers license at all times, you could end up losing your job, your house etc if the process dragged out too long.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

I think the only real case someone would have for "undo hardship", is if you live in one of the states that will not renew your drivers license if your green card is expired, even if you have an NOA showing your are in process of removing conditions. If your job requires you to have an valid drivers license at all times, you could end up losing your job, your house etc if the process dragged out too long.

NJ won't let you use an expired GC and NOA to get a new DL or renew an existing one.

Which is why the Newark DO gives out I-551 stamps. NJ will accept the stamp.

Still no real hardship.

[AussieDude 0]

Personally, I'd be happier with a little more information on the steps a 751 process goes through, eg, something of the form:

1. Payment and form received

2. Background/Name check started and received ok

3. Biometrics received and passed

4. Evidence being assessed and being ok (and make evidence an actual list of items that everyone can get rather than some vague statement)

5. Final adjudication

It would be nice to see 'now serving #x'

I know we currently have the case status system, and processing dates for each center, but a little more detail would go a long way to assuaging everyone's anxieties.

I also realise that giving a set list of items for evidence might make it easier for fraud, so my system isn't perfect either.

The other reason USCIS may not want too much information given out is that they'll have people harranguing them on every step about why its not done yet.

I also like AJs idea, your conditions removed in 9 months guaranteed or your money back

[NickD 203]

This I-751 hassle is still fresh in our minds, anxiously awaiting for the citizenship oath letter of citizenship at present, but only had the ten year green card for a little over a couple of months now.

And it doesn't end with the I-751, when you apply for the N-400, the entire process starts all over again like day one when you first brought your mate over here.

The really sad part of this board are the number of people that have posted where their marriages did not work out, the USC is panicked trying to get out of the I-864 contract with the government, the alien wants out of the marriage and wants to go back home. In the N-400, the USC has to list all previous marriages and they want to know if their spouse was an alien or a USC. I suppose if a guy had to list some odd ten previous marriages all to aliens, there might be a reason for suspicion on the part of the USCIS, hey, maybe this guy is marrying women into the USA just to bring them in. But the same questions were asked when we first applied.

This world does have a universal passport where one can go anywhere they please and are welcomed with open arms, it's called money, and if you have that kind of money, don't have to marry some scumbag to come to this or any other country. Meaning if that is the intention of trying to bring a person here for money, that person wouldn't have that kind of money to start with. And with the initial laws to bring that person here, a USC puts himself in the perfect position to be blackmailed by the alien and even a good intentional marriage, this is happening where the USC is trying to get out of it and reporting all these faults to the USCIS.

That brings about the question, what good is this I-751 process doing? Is the USCIS actually catching any bad guys? But it sure is causing an additional hardship for those that did indeed marry for love and trying to keep their driver's license and jobs with a one year extension that is about to expire with no word from the USCIS.

If they want to play their I-751 game, fine, but they should go by what their application says, sent it in 90 days before the expiration of your conditional green card, and get that ten year card back to you before your card expires!!!!

The effect if the I-751 can even wreck a good marriage when your spouse is treated like some illegal or foreign spy, what kind of country is this!!! And ironically those that made a sincere effort to do everything legally only represent about 5% of the aliens that are here already, illegally with some politicians coming out on the news, let's give them all amnesty!!!

Yes, I have discussed these issues with both my congressman and senator, in person as a matter of fact, but what can they say with a president breaking over 750 laws of the constitution, trying to raise funds for this occupation in Iraq, providing money for student grants, the shortage of people enlisting in the armed services, all the national weather tragedies, etc. With the some odd 140,000 I-751 applicants per year, we are not a priority, so have to learn how to live with it.

[GregS 0]

NJ won't let you use an expired GC and NOA to get a new DL or renew an existing one.

Which is why the Newark DO gives out I-551 stamps. NJ will accept the stamp.

Still no real hardship.

If you read through this thread Driver License Exp there are states (ie Texas) that do not accept the I-551 stamp and thus you still cannot renew a license. You are forced to wait until you get the new green card. So if your job is dependent on your DL, you can definitely experience hardship.

Edited August 7, 2008 by GregS