US races to erect controversial steel fence on Mexican border

[Scott & Lai 12]

Why don't they just take all that money they're spending on this and flush it down the toilet. It's such a waste.

Diana

You don't think this design will reduce the number of entries without inspection?

The fence idea is making me sick.

Why?

No, it'll never work. I've said it before and I'll keep on saying it. When people are living miserable lives, living in miserable conditions, watching their children starve, and see no way out of it but jump over a fence, trust me, they'll do it. They'll go over it, under it, around it, but somehow they will do it. Hunger and poverty are very powerful forces that make you do things that you thought you were not capable of doing.

So yeah, it's a waste of money.

Diana

Maybe we should just surrender, and announce that anyone who wants to come in will be welcomed with open arms. Heck, we can even use the fence money to provide free transportation to the USA, and free room and board

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

Don't understimate the power of the illegal immigrants.

Diana

::sigh:: this is a legal immigration board. Have you no shame?

[kaydee457 13]

Why don't they just take all that money they're spending on this and flush it down the toilet. It's such a waste.

Diana

You don't think this design will reduce the number of entries without inspection?

The fence idea is making me sick.

Why?

No, it'll never work. I've said it before and I'll keep on saying it. When people are living miserable lives, living in miserable conditions, watching their children starve, and see no way out of it but jump over a fence, trust me, they'll do it. They'll go over it, under it, around it, but somehow they will do it. Hunger and poverty are very powerful forces that make you do things that you thought you were not capable of doing.

So yeah, it's a waste of money.

Diana

Maybe we should just surrender, and announce that anyone who wants to come in will be welcomed with open arms. Heck, we can even use the fence money to provide free transportation to the USA, and free room and board

Finally a voice of civility and reasonableness.....

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

How much is this supposed to cost?

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

How much is this supposed to cost?

It's been approved and funded by Congress.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

From what I understand there are quite a few objections to this - not just in relation to immigration: environmental impacts as well as legal issues related to the division of property lines and building on private land.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

From what I understand there are quite a few objections to this - not just in relation to immigration: environmental impacts as well as legal issues related to the division of property lines and building on private land.

Which have all been waived.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

From what I understand there are quite a few objections to this - not just in relation to immigration: environmental impacts as well as legal issues related to the division of property lines and building on private land.

Which have all been waived.

I'm sure. I understand it's happening - though I'm not really convinced that its the best use of money and public opinion on the subject seems mixed, at best.

[Ban Hammer 13,352]

Don't understimate the power of the illegal immigrants.

Diana

::sigh:: this is a legal immigration board. Have you no shame?

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

From what I understand there are quite a few objections to this - not just in relation to immigration: environmental impacts as well as legal issues related to the division of property lines and building on private land.

Which have all been waived.

I'm sure. I understand it's happening - though I'm not really convinced that its the best use of money and public opinion on the subject seems mixed, at best.

Money - yeah, it likely isn't the best way to spend it, but it is a good way to spend it IMO. Had they built a fence out of thin wire, only 3-feet high, with no concrete underground, that would have been a total waste. This sounds like it may actually have some impact, which is good.

As for public opinion - the elected representatives of the American voters (i.e. Congress) passed this into law. This is the voice of the people, the only voice that matters.

Edited August 6, 2008 by A.J.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

From what I understand there are quite a few objections to this - not just in relation to immigration: environmental impacts as well as legal issues related to the division of property lines and building on private land.

Which have all been waived.

I'm sure. I understand it's happening - though I'm not really convinced that its the best use of money and public opinion on the subject seems mixed, at best.

Money - yeah, it likely isn't the best way to spend it, but it is a good way to spend it IMO. Had they built a fence out of thin wire, only 3-feet high, with no concrete underground, that would have been a total waste. This sounds like it may actually have some impact, which is good.

As for public opinion - the elected representatives of the American voters passed this into law. This is the voice of the people, the only voice that matters.

Yes I understand that too. We can still point it out however.

[jundp 191]

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To meet his deadline, Chertoff is using sweeping authority Congress granted in 2005 to waive 36 federal laws protecting water, air quality, endangered animals, and native American sites.

This is the part that really bothers me. Probably because I'm a bleedin' heart commie...

No, it'll never work. I've said it before and I'll keep on saying it. When people are living miserable lives, living in miserable conditions, watching their children starve, and see no way out of it but jump over a fence, trust me, they'll do it. They'll go over it, under it, around it, but somehow they will do it. Hunger and poverty are very powerful forces that make you do things that you thought you were not capable of doing

Diana

This is true, I think. We've seen it so many times. And not just in our country either. Heck, look at what East Berliners did to get out before the wall came down.

I don't advocate illegal immigration, I can't when I've been going through this process legally, but I can understand the great lengths some people go to because of hunger, poverty, etc. I'm a mother...I would do what I have to for my kids if it came down to it...

[IAMX 3,055]

This is about the biggest waste of money on half-assed logical thinking I've seen in a while. With the money they're spending, do you really think they can stop people who desperately want to get here with a damn fence, even with barbed wire? No. Illegals will go under it. They'll go over it. They'll go through it. It won't stop a damn thing. If enforcing immigration laws is the idea, get more border patrol.

May as well set a pile of money on fire.

Edited August 7, 2008 by SRVT

[wizardfitz 13]

geez enter legally what a joke

[t0+ 1]

geez enter legally what a joke

You sir are a genius, I don't know why none of them ever thought of that. We should make you president of the illegals.