August 2008 Filers

[Chuck and Grace 0]

Why is VSC is so slow compared to CSC?? CSC is cranking out NO2 they are up to 25, but VSC looks like they left for holiday break early. Anyone knows what's going on? And when do you guys think looking at my time line i will get NOA2, just interested in your opinions. Thanks

OK, here is my theory, which seems perfectly logical (at least to me).

Unfortunately, not all people who file are members of VJ. Therefor, you are only seeing a sampling of members at any given time. Even within VJ, you see people who havent gotten NOA2 from July or early August or whenever - maybe for reasons (like RFE) or whatever, but actually good weeks or bad weeks on IGOR's list is really of no consequence. I think they probably kick-out roughly the same number of applications everyday, it just happens to be a good week if those applications are for people on VJ.

With all

[Chuck and Grace 0]

Why is VSC is so slow compared to CSC?? CSC is cranking out NO2 they are up to 25, but VSC looks like they left for holiday break early. Anyone knows what's going on? And when do you guys think looking at my time line i will get NOA2, just interested in your opinions. Thanks

OK, here is my theory, which seems perfectly logical (at least to me).

Unfortunately, not all people who file are members of VJ. Therefor, you are only seeing a sampling of members at any given time. Even within VJ, you see people who havent gotten NOA2 from July or early August or whenever - maybe for reasons (like RFE) or whatever, but actually good weeks or bad weeks on IGOR's list is really of no consequence. I think they probably kick-out roughly the same number of applications everyday, it just happens to be a good week if those applications are for people on VJ.

With all that

[Chuck and Grace 0]

Why is VSC is so slow compared to CSC?? CSC is cranking out NO2 they are up to 25, but VSC looks like they left for holiday break early. Anyone knows what's going on? And when do you guys think looking at my time line i will get NOA2, just interested in your opinions. Thanks

OK, here is my theory, which seems perfectly logical (at least to me.

Unfortunately, not all people who file are members of VJ. Therefor, you are only seeing a sampling of members at any given time. Even within VJ, you see people who havent gotten NOA2 from July or early August or whenever - maybe for reasons (like RFE) or whatever, but actually good weeks or bad weeks on IGOR's list is really of no consequence. I think they probably kick-out roughly the same number of applications everyday, it just happens to be a good week if those applications are for people on VJ.

With all that being said, they are still a pain in the a55 and it is good to see others moving along (even if it is only a small sampling).

[Chuck and Grace 0]

WOW, I really didnt post that 4 times - (or More). I dont know what happened. But as the "invading" king of this page, I have decided to try to fill it myself.

As "invading" king, I declare CSC to go forth with more September approvals!

OK, they can still do some more August ones if they come across the desk too.

[DeathNova 0]

When you say law enforcement I think police, sherrifs, low level dudes... but we're talking the F.B.I. here, I imagine they can have an open case pending regardless of any actual charges being filed, and if USCIS checks with them for any potential hits, it doesn't necessarily matter that nothing was ever made public... the high up you go (CIA, and secret service etc) I imagine the less forgiving it becomes to be so much as mentioned. In the end I think the worst case is it causes a delay, but I'm not really expecting that so much either, I'll get paranoid about it though if I start to see some regular touches on my file and no approval or RFE (so far no touches, I figure they at least have to look at it once before they slap me into some security check hell).

The perceived importance of an agency has nothing to do with what records are recorded. They all follow the same basic policies when it comes to what gets entered into a central database. Unless you're on the terrorist wanted list or something there is no secret CIA file on you.

[Chuck and Grace 0]

When you say law enforcement I think police, sherrifs, low level dudes... but we're talking the F.B.I. here, I imagine they can have an open case pending regardless of any actual charges being filed, and if USCIS checks with them for any potential hits, it doesn't necessarily matter that nothing was ever made public... the high up you go (CIA, and secret service etc) I imagine the less forgiving it becomes to be so much as mentioned. In the end I think the worst case is it causes a delay, but I'm not really expecting that so much either, I'll get paranoid about it though if I start to see some regular touches on my file and no approval or RFE (so far no touches, I figure they at least have to look at it once before they slap me into some security check hell).

The perceived importance of an agency has nothing to do with what records are recorded. They all follow the same basic policies when it comes to what gets entered into a central database. Unless you're on the terrorist wanted list or something there is no secret CIA file on you.

Are you sure? Your ruining it the conspiracy theorist everywhere. I always hear how "big brother" is watching.

[HYENA 4]

Why is VSC is so slow compared to CSC?? CSC is cranking out NO2 they are up to 25, but VSC looks like they left for holiday break early. Anyone knows what's going on? And when do you guys think looking at my time line i will get NOA2, just interested in your opinions. Thanks

OK, here is my theory, which seems perfectly logical (at least to me).

Unfortunately, not all people who file are members of VJ. Therefor, you are only seeing a sampling of members at any given time. Even within VJ, you see people who havent gotten NOA2 from July or early August or whenever - maybe for reasons (like RFE) or whatever, but actually good weeks or bad weeks on IGOR's list is really of no consequence. I think they probably kick-out roughly the same number of applications everyday, it just happens to be a good week if those applications are for people on VJ.

With a

They literally get a box, stuff their "to do" files and if there's a red flag (they're under pressure to push numbers through and do so accurately and their yearly evaluations are based upon these things)...so they've got 50 files at a time. It takes 15 minutes to do one file...but they get a hit on one of their checks (maybe an RFE from another agency where the information doesn't match or something similar--not an RFE for us necessarily)...they put that file to the side and shoot for the masses. Once the response from that red flag comes in, they move it back to the working pile and continue.

They really do have some people who grab a box, work on some cases and don't sign them back in so the box sits there 'till they come back.

Each individual works at a different pace but they're all expected to produce. If they can approve parent, then their children flow through easily on the parents backs and they'd get 3-4 credited and their numbers will look better but the thick thick cases, maybe there's a discrepancy they have to check in to so they put it aside and go with the faster one's.

So my assumptions were right that they each grab a box and get working and they all do so at different paces. Of course, he said, there were those who barely make their numbers enough to remain employed then there are those who really like their job and crank them through. Also, one employee may RFE and not want to bother while another employee will take the extra time to rectify a discrepancy and make sense out of it before moving it along.

If they get a "hit" from maybe a high alert country, similar name to a known bad guy or anything like that...if they can't settle it right there, it goes to another officer who deals with these specific problems.

The newbies do the easier one's like k3 and k1's where the seasoned employees do the complicated one's and those who may be red flagged somewhere along the way. Apparently they are all bar coded so they're supposed to scan each time they touch the file so everyone knows who has a particular file at a particular time. On occasion, a file gets lost and they have to track it...maybe it got send stuck to another file in a box and 2 instead of 1 went to another service center or something. Then there are the weirdos who don't pass their complicated or red flag files on to the specialist because they're lazy or weird who knows....but some literally sit while someone is on vacation, maternity leave, etc. Bottom line is that employee is producing numbers to have a better evaluation, etc.

Maybe income requirements are close so they have someone crunch the numbers to see exactly if they qualify or not and have to look through everything...or anything can slow it down.

They call K-1 cases "hunny bunnies". Some really do realize they're changing lives and get a kick out of doing this while others, it's just a job.

Everyone has horror stories where a former applicant will call in and say they were used for a visa and their spouse never really loved them (and worse)...then the good stories of saving someone from certain death on an emergency petition from the Red Cross...

It sounds like organized chaos.

By the way, if it's taking too long, Congressional inquiries really do get the ball rolling from what he says but you cna't do that 'till you're really late....

[Gemmie 142]

Congratulations Fred!! And all you other hunny bunnies that have been approved.

Nothing from us yet, we're checking everyday hoping for a Christmas present.

HD, sorry to hear the news about the flight. Just remember, you will see him this weekend!! I'll be thinking of you, I've told Bill all about you guys, including you.

Keep them coming, guys!!

[Fred N Emilia 0]

Congratulations Fred!! And all you other hunny bunnies that have been approved.

Nothing from us yet, we're checking everyday hoping for a Christmas present.

HD, sorry to hear the news about the flight. Just remember, you will see him this weekend!! I'll be thinking of you, I've told Bill all about you guys, including you.

Keep them coming, guys!!

HEY THERE YOU ARE!

Thanks Gemmie!

As for that person who asked why CSC crank out more approvals? or why is VSC slower?

It's not that VSC is slow, CSC receives more applications than VSC.

[PhiLandShiR 18]

I was really hoping I would have good news to take with me to Manila this weekend...

Does not look like I will see my NOA2 till January now...

Nothing will get done next week and like most government agencies, nothing will get done between Christmas and New Years either...

[maliciant 7]

As "invading" king, I declare CSC to go forth with more September approvals!

OK, they can still do some more August ones if they come across the desk too.

OH #######!!! INVASION!?!?... maybe we can get a mod to delete 3 of the posts and... damn, he will still be king... our next king needs to veto this invaders rule... plus I find it offensive mwuahahaha! Mods... I find any post by chuck and grace that lands at the top of the august thread offensive, please turn invisible!

[DeathNova 0]

Grats to all that got approved over night whilst I slept

WOOOOOOOT!!!

So jealous

But happy that this time tomorrow I will have picked Chris up from the airport

I just read your signature, as a military member with experience in clearances, intelligence, etc. I can tell you this makes absolutely no sense. No where would USCIS ever have anything to do with a DoD security clearance. Office of Personnel Management might ask THEM for information in order to process a clearance which is not uncommon when you have foreign contacts (eg. USCIS may be contacted to verify that you're immigrating legally as a clearance will be denied if one is found to be associating with an illegal immigrant.)

The only reason I can think of for this that is even close to logical is that the military is investigating him for something or there is other derogatory information on his OPM investigation that would preclude him from being allowed to sponsor a visa. When I first consulted with an attorney about all of this I was informed that the I-129F approval process is an investigation into the person making the request and not the beneficiary, the beneficiary investigation comes once the package is at the embassy.

DeathNova,

During the NOA1 -NOA2 process they perform background checks on both parties involved, as Maciliant mentioned.

The issue we had was that USCIS does not have the clearance to complete the nesscary checks on Chris due to his position (he is not in the military but with a private company) and level of security clearance that is held. The form was send to DISCO to collect the information they need to process futher, he had to complete a number of forms as did his SSO to send back to DISCO which would then forward the required information to USCIS.

It was done last week and the SSO had to complete the information in 14 days so it should either all be at DISCO or on it's way back to USCIS.

As far as I understand it has nothing to do with a military investigation, rather they were questioning if he seriously wanted to petition national as it may put his clearance in question.

This is still quite odd. I'm also a "cleared individual" and my NOA2 came without delay. Possibly he had not properly declared his relationship with you or his Security Manager did not bother to write an incident report (very common outside the Department of Defense because managers are scared to lose employees or contracts if they declare an incident).

[New2014 0]

I havent said much before....just waiting in silence..lol.....but I have to say congrats Fred..........

[Fred N Emilia 0]

Am I seeing this right?

CSC is is ahead of VSC?

Check out the processing times!

People don't dispair yet, approvals also come in the evening! some of these folks in these service center work late so hang in there!

[TeeKol 0]

Just tiptoeing in here to let you know....We were approved a very short while ago!!!!!!

So those of you with RFE's its correct what they are saying, it wont hold up your approval too long if ours was anything to go by...10 days from when they received it to the approval. Dont despair, I know its easier to say than do.

August is moving you wont be long now guys!!!!!