White American (proud to be...)

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Then you'd say, "I'm proud to be Irish", but 'white' doesn't imply any specific ethnic characteristics beyond color of skin. Can you think of anything unique to being 'white' by which you'd be proud of?

Same could go for "black".

It's just a skin colour.

As for Americans.... do you really think we're going to say "I'm proud to be English-Irish-Norwegian-German-French-Swedish!" No, those all get covered by "white" and "American".

Black Pride as I understand it was a movement against the oppression that black people have experienced because of their skin color, much like Gay Pride. But things like St. Patrick's Day Parades or Greek Festivals are celebrations of culture and ethnicity.

Don't forget the Moors who conquered Spain in the 8th Century... many Europeans are not anymore 'white' than they are 'black'.

The Black Irish like Jabberwocky said are from the Moors. One of my friends who is a white female and 6'3' with freckles claims to be from the black irish decendency and she proudly wears her "Kiss Me I'm Irish" shirt every St. Patty's Day.

Yup - the Moors did conquer Southern Spain during the crusades. Also part of the reason why modern Italians and Greeks have distinctive features (black hair, olive skin). That wasn't what people used to look like in Roman (or Ancient Greek) times.

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But that girl can drink ya under that table any day.

Outdrinking me is easy. I'm weak. They say if you weigh a lot you should be able to handle more liquor. Doesn't work for me!

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Yup - the Moors did conquer Southern Spain during the crusades. Also part of the reason why modern Italians and Greeks have distinctive features (black hair, olive skin). That wasn't what people used to look like in Roman (or Ancient Greek) times.

Freshman year in college I took a course that went over White Nationalist movements in America. Interestingly enough, they don't consider people with Italian ancestry 'white'.

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I just found this on google. I don't know how good the source is. FWIW.

Well into the twentieth century, Italian-Americans were not considered 'white'.

More lynching victims were Italian-American than any other group besides African-American, according to La Storia: Five Centuries of the Italian-American Experience By Jerre Mangione. This included the largest mass lynching in America's history, of 11 Italian-Americans in New Orleans, March 14, 1891.

"In a series of cartoons of October 1890 [in the New Orleans Mascot] entitled 'The Italian Population,' one panel shows a group of immigrants in a cage being lowered into the river. The caption reads: 'How to Dispose of Them.'" - La Storia

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Ok, here is another source - the National Italian American Foundation:

1891

New Orleans prejudice and discrimination results in lynching of 11 Italians, the largest mass lynching in United States history.

The lynching of 11 Italians in New Orleans in 1891, the largest mass lynching in American history, was a terribly violent occasion that provoked an international crisis as Italy formally protested and demanded restitution to the families of the victims. It was the most extreme result of prejudice and discrimination. Virtually every newcomer ethnic group into this country has experienced a degree of discrimination, however, the New Orleans incident graphically illustrated the excessive cost that prejudice and discrimination could exact. The background to the event seemed simple enough. When the police commissioner of New Orleans was killed, suspicion fell upon eleven Sicilian immigrants who were put on trial but were declared not guilty.

A mob was incited to storm the jail in which the accused were incarcerated, to forcibly extract them, then shoot and lynch them. That there were several other Italians lynched in several locations during this era underscores the danger faced by newcomers under certain intemperate circumstances. Even minus the extremes it was not uncommon for Italian immigrants and their issue to face degrees of hostility and discrimination based largely on perceptions that they displayed ignorance, were lazy or detrimental to labor interests, practiced religious superstition, and most of all were inclined toward criminality. Well into the second half of the twentieth century furthermore, the antagonistic displays were, blatant, blunt, unsubtle, and unapologetic. Happily, much of this behavior has lessened; however, it would naïve to believe that anti-Italian discrimination is a thing of the past, although contemporary discrimination is subtle, indirect and more likely to be manifest in omission and stereotyping.

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Them be pioneering wild west days.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

How can someone be proud of a label that has no nationality or ethnic origin?

dunno. but, if your talking about being proud of being white...white people would be european in origin.

can you explain why black pride & latino pride are okay & not white pride?...not white supremacy white pride.

Actually... if you read the thread in its entirety

you know i'm not going to do that. it hurts my head. so just gimme the answer.

I do? Silly me I guess.

Still if you wait 6 months you can start a new thread on this subject and pretend that noone else said anything. That's pretty much what seems to happen with this topic.

ok will do

How can someone be proud of a label that has no nationality or ethnic origin?

dunno. but, if your talking about being proud of being white...white people would be european in origin.

can you explain why black pride & latino pride are okay & not white pride?...not white supremacy white pride.

Then you'd say, "I'm proud to be Irish", but 'white' doesn't imply any specific ethnic characteristics beyond color of skin. Can you think of anything unique to being 'white' by which you'd be proud of?

but i'm italian/irish/scottish...all european & *gasp* white.

Still, what is uniquely 'white'...that only 'white' people can say they possess?

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Steven - European ancestry? White people are the indigenous people of Europe, after all.

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Still, what is uniquely 'white'...that only 'white' people can say they possess?

same as any black or latin person...color of their skin. yet its cool to be proud to black or latin but racist to be proud of being white.

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Olivia, you should challenge her to a beer-off. If she's really Irish you'll know. Unless you're Irish too, of course.

I need to decrease my alcohol consumption, according to the Dr. I'm prehypertension. So no more beer offs for me.

But that girl can drink ya under that table any day. We'd been doing it since we were 15 illegally downtown 6th St. in Austin, TX. I can't tell you how many 21 birthdays we celebrated in a row until we reached 21 and past.

Maybe you could set her up w/ Turboguy. She doesn't fart, does she?

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Olivia, you should challenge her to a beer-off. If she's really Irish you'll know. Unless you're Irish too, of course.

I need to decrease my alcohol consumption, according to the Dr. I'm prehypertension. So no more beer offs for me.

But that girl can drink ya under that table any day. We'd been doing it since we were 15 illegally downtown 6th St. in Austin, TX. I can't tell you how many 21 birthdays we celebrated in a row until we reached 21 and past.

Maybe you could set her up w/ Turboguy. She doesn't fart, does she?

Not that I know of. Anyways we don't talk much anymore since I moved from Austin the last time in 2003.

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#######!! I can't believe this thread is still going on!!

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Here's a good resource for all you good ol' boys who are feeling the pride but don't know where to go:

White Pride Events

Blog dedicated with pro-white rallies, events, cookouts,fellowship, education and concerts.

[Steve Y Jessica 1]

Here's a good resource for all you good ol' boys who are feeling the pride but don't know where to go:

White Pride Events

Blog dedicated with pro-white rallies, events, cookouts,fellowship, education and concerts.

We're here and we're #######!!!!!!

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

Here's a good resource for all you good ol' boys who are feeling the pride but don't know where to go:

White Pride Events

Blog dedicated with pro-white rallies, events, cookouts,fellowship, education and concerts.

Neo-nazi's are not exactally my way of being proud.