Man stabbed and beheaded on Greyhound bus

[Heracles 417]

Exactly. And you wondered why people didn't do anything?

Interesting considering the response in United Airlines Flight 93.

[MrsCat 6]

Exactly. And you wondered why people didn't do anything?

Interesting considering the response in United Airlines Flight 93.

Actually stats are against this example that people do intervene in moments of need:

Since:

American Airlines Flight 11

United Airlines Flight 175

American Airlines Flight 77

All crashed into their intended targets while innocent people prayed for their lives and hoped for some type of intervention.

I would presume that on UA Flight 93, that people intervened because they had learned the fate of the other aircraft. At that point they knew what their only option was.

Keep in mind as well, that these actions on the aircraft took place over a longer period of time. People had more time to assess the situation and determine whether risking their lives to assist was necessary. On the bus - this attack was immediate and time to decide whether to respond was much shorter. I assume that as time increases - the chances of people acting increases. I believe that most people's initial instinct in face of danger is to flee - then assess.

Edited August 3, 2008 by cattattude

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Exactly. And you wondered why people didn't do anything?

Interesting considering the response in United Airlines Flight 93.

Actually stats are against this example that people do intervene in moments of need:

Since:

American Airlines Flight 11

United Airlines Flight 175

American Airlines Flight 77

All crashed into their intended targets while innocent people prayed for their lives and hoped for some type of intervention.

I would presume that on UA Flight 93, that people intervened because they had learned the fate of the other aircraft. At that point they knew what their only option was.

Keep in mind as well, that these actions on the aircraft took place over a longer period of time. People had more time to assess the situation and determine whether risking their lives to assist was necessary. On the bus - this attack was immediate and time to decide whether to respond was much shorter. I assume that as time increases - the chances of people acting increases. I believe that most people's initial instinct in face of danger is to flee - then assess.

Yup. There was a lot of chaos on Flight 93 - a lot of people didn't know what had happened for a while and I believe they didn't act as soon as the plane was hijacked.

Lot less time to think when someone across from you has just sawn someone's head off and started eating the flesh. I imagine blind terror takes over.

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

I decided the guy on that bus who slaughtered the other guy must have had double ear infections.

[Heracles 417]

I just saw on the news that he actually ate some of the victim's flesh

This animal needs corporal punishment. #### this sit down and tell me about you childhood 2008 approach.

Edited August 4, 2008 by Aficionado

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

A-T-E H-I-M?

[Heracles 417]

More grisly details emerge in Canadian bus murder

THE family of a 22-year-old Canadian man who was beheaded by a fellow passenger on a bus made a plea for privacy as more gruesome details of the crime were revealed.

A policeman reported seeing the attacker hacking off pieces of the victim and eating them, according to a tape leaked on the internet.

Police have not confirmed the victim's name, but his family said he was Tim McLean, who was returning home to Winnipeg, Manitoba, from a job as a carnival worker in Edmonton, Alberta.

He was killed on a bus last week by a man who stabbed him 50 times and then cut his head off with a huge knife. Police have charged Vince Weiguang Li, 40, of Edmonton, with second-degree murder.

"He was a little guy with a heart bigger than you could know," said the victim's uncle, Alex McLean, reading a statement from the family in Winnipeg.

In the leaked tape of police radio transmissions, a Royal Canadian Mounted Police officer refers to the attacker as "Badger" and says he is armed with a knife and a pair of scissors and "is defiling the body at the front of the bus as we speak.

"OK, Badger's at the back of the bus, hacking off pieces and eating it," he says at the end of the recording of about 80 seconds.

Police issued a statement saying they were aware portions of the tape had been leaked.

Officers responded to a desolate stretch of the TransCanada Highway about 19 kilometres from Portage La Prairie, Manitoba, after the bloody killing late on Wednesday on a Greyhound bus.

Passengers said that shortly after they reboarded following a break, the suspect — for no apparent reason — stabbed the man sitting next to him several dozen times as others fled in horror. He then severed the man's head, displayed it and began hacking at the body.

AP

http://www.theage.com.au/world/more-grisly...80803-3pc0.html

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I just saw on the news that he actually ate some of the victim's flesh

This animal needs corporal punishment. #### this sit down and tell me about you childhood 2008 approach.

Sure I'm sure that'll teach him.

The guy killed a random stranger and cannibalised his flesh. Clearly he's not right in the head - and there's probably more to it than Freud.

[chnst 6]

OMG!!! Personally I'm all for tighter security on buses and bus terminals. Port Authority really creeped me out when I had to take a bus to Philadelphia in March.

What concerns me is that why didn't anybody stop him? There was a bus load of people. Yet the ##### canucks all ran out.

I think Aussies and Americans would have jumped the one ######.

I thought the same thing too- why people didn't just jump him to try to stop it.

After reading Cat's response- maybe it is easier to think you would react a certain way but when actually faced with the situation- you don't.

I was joking about Canadians but I seriously wondered why 5 or so people just didn't jump him.

well, I would have passed out in the fetal position if I had been on that bus. I really feel bad for the victim, and I am glad that there are people like you who consider stepping in. I don't think I could come near this person unless it was my child he was attacking.

[Amby 490]

I forget what site I saw it on but apparently his friends were all writing stuff about him on his facebook page and that's why his family have said his name to the news

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]