Lack ot letters, but 2,000 txts

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Hello,

Im not a big letter writter. I have original cellphone bills showing my Fiancees overseas number for 2,272 text messages. (not the contents) Since January - July Would this help the lack of letters? We have exchange cards. She also has an ATM card we use for sending money. Beats the Western Union costs. The Bank statements states the city the withdrawals are made in for the last 9 months ++

I do have the usual pics from meeting in person and paypal receipts for eloads to her cell and copies of some calling cards I have bought online. How many chat logs should I send? I have about 1 years worth archived on Yahoo messanger? The evidence package Im sending her is getting very very large.

Thanks for any comments

[Carlawarla 1]

Hello,

Im not a big letter writter. I have original cellphone bills showing my Fiancees overseas number for 2,272 text messages. (not the contents) Since January - July Would this help the lack of letters? We have exchange cards. She also has an ATM card we use for sending money. Beats the Western Union costs. The Bank statements states the city the withdrawals are made in for the last 9 months ++

I do have the usual pics from meeting in person and paypal receipts for eloads to her cell and copies of some calling cards I have bought online. How many chat logs should I send? I have about 1 years worth archived on Yahoo messanger? The evidence package Im sending her is getting very very large.

Thanks for any comments

You don't have to have letters. You have cellphone bills, photos, cards...

Chat logs are a good idea, maybe a sampling showing a period of time, to show the on-going relationship. We had greeting cards, phone records, some emails, chat logs, and pictures. If you've had subsequent visits to see your fiance, include other boarding passes hotel receipts etc. as well.

Don't send a ton of stuff though! Not only is it costly, but they'll never go through it all!

Best of luck!

Edited July 31, 2008 by Carlawarla

[~BahAmerican~ 0]

The phone/cell/text messaging is great (documentation)because it will show a time frame of the relationship.

Anything like poems/E-cards,photos helps.It also wouldn't hurt if you print out a couple pages of the archives on Yahoo Messenger.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

I wouldn't worry about not having any letters either. Many people communicate by email, chat, textting and phone. It is much faster than by mail. It is the 21st century and communication methods have changed.

[Devkpaik 1]

I wouldn't worry about not having any letters either. Many people communicate by email, chat, textting and phone. It is much faster than by mail. It is the 21st century and communication methods have changed.

I didn't have a single letter, and I only had one email and our visa was approved.

However, we do talk about three times a day on the phone and have call logs to prove this. And I have spent a total of about a year living with her so where we were lacking with letters, emails, etc. we made up with phone logs, visits, etc.

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Hello,

Im not a big letter writter. I have original cellphone bills showing my Fiancees overseas number for 2,272 text messages. (not the contents) Since January - July Would this help the lack of letters? We have exchange cards. She also has an ATM card we use for sending money. Beats the Western Union costs. The Bank statements states the city the withdrawals are made in for the last 9 months ++

I do have the usual pics from meeting in person and paypal receipts for eloads to her cell and copies of some calling cards I have bought online. How many chat logs should I send? I have about 1 years worth archived on Yahoo messanger? The evidence package Im sending her is getting very very large.

Thanks for any comments

You don't have to have letters. You have cellphone bills, photos, cards...

Chat logs are a good idea, maybe a sampling showing a period of time, to show the on-going relationship. We had greeting cards, phone records, some emails, chat logs, and pictures. If you've had subsequent visits to see your fiance, include other boarding passes hotel receipts etc. as well.

Don't send a ton of stuff though! Not only is it costly, but they'll never go through it all!

Best of luck!

Visa J, says to send a complete copy of the I 129F is this a copy of documents and such? My package Im sending my fiancee is getting very large.

When do I send her the I 134 and everything? We just got our NOA #2 do I wait?

[Carlawarla 1]

Hello,

Im not a big letter writter. I have original cellphone bills showing my Fiancees overseas number for 2,272 text messages. (not the contents) Since January - July Would this help the lack of letters? We have exchange cards. She also has an ATM card we use for sending money. Beats the Western Union costs. The Bank statements states the city the withdrawals are made in for the last 9 months ++

I do have the usual pics from meeting in person and paypal receipts for eloads to her cell and copies of some calling cards I have bought online. How many chat logs should I send? I have about 1 years worth archived on Yahoo messanger? The evidence package Im sending her is getting very very large.

Thanks for any comments

You don't have to have letters. You have cellphone bills, photos, cards...

Chat logs are a good idea, maybe a sampling showing a period of time, to show the on-going relationship. We had greeting cards, phone records, some emails, chat logs, and pictures. If you've had subsequent visits to see your fiance, include other boarding passes hotel receipts etc. as well.

Don't send a ton of stuff though! Not only is it costly, but they'll never go through it all!

Best of luck!

Visa J, says to send a complete copy of the I 129F is this a copy of documents and such? My package Im sending my fiancee is getting very large.

When do I send her the I 134 and everything? We just got our NOA #2 do I wait?

I don't know what the timeline is for NVC and your fiances country before getting an interview. You might want to check others from that country. Could be one or two months from NVC to the Embassy.

It's usually a good idea to send her a copy of the forms you filled out on the 129F. Maybe she has that already anyway? Send "certified" copies or originals of what you sent in copies for in the original package. She will keep the certified copies, but the Embassy has the right to see the certified copies of photocopies you sent in.

If you have everything already done for the I-134 you could send that to her now, or it might be better cost wise to send two seperate packages. Maybe send her half now, and the other half after knowing the date of your interview.

Maybe your fiance has supporting evidence of the ongoing relationship? Maybe you don't need to send yours as well.

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Hello,

Im not a big letter writter. I have original cellphone bills showing my Fiancees overseas number for 2,272 text messages. (not the contents) Since January - July Would this help the lack of letters? We have exchange cards. She also has an ATM card we use for sending money. Beats the Western Union costs. The Bank statements states the city the withdrawals are made in for the last 9 months ++

I do have the usual pics from meeting in person and paypal receipts for eloads to her cell and copies of some calling cards I have bought online. How many chat logs should I send? I have about 1 years worth archived on Yahoo messanger? The evidence package Im sending her is getting very very large.

Thanks for any comments

Sending her money and loading her cell phone might seem like good evidence of bona fides but I'd have her keep all that tucked away instead of offering it as evidence. It can be consrued as you being taken advantage of as easily as anything else.

Visits are actually the best evidence of bona fides.

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Hello,

Im not a big letter writter. I have original cellphone bills showing my Fiancees overseas number for 2,272 text messages. (not the contents) Since January - July Would this help the lack of letters? We have exchange cards. She also has an ATM card we use for sending money. Beats the Western Union costs. The Bank statements states the city the withdrawals are made in for the last 9 months ++

I do have the usual pics from meeting in person and paypal receipts for eloads to her cell and copies of some calling cards I have bought online. How many chat logs should I send? I have about 1 years worth archived on Yahoo messanger? The evidence package Im sending her is getting very very large.

Thanks for any comments

Sending her money and loading her cell phone might seem like good evidence of bona fides but I'd have her keep all that tucked away instead of offering it as evidence. It can be consrued as you being taken advantage of as easily as anything else.

Visits are actually the best evidence of bona fides.

Western Union receipts have been useful in the past by others and accepted. (I used them in 2001) a $3.00 load of a cell phone a couple times a month considering the large amount of texting we do shouldn't be looked at as being taken advantage of. Depending on the amount a person sends would determine if they are being taken advantage of. As for an ATM card, why pay $15 to western union to send $20? just dont make any sense.

Might be a good idea to keep it out of the initial evidence package.

[pushbrk 12,893]

Hello,

Im not a big letter writter. I have original cellphone bills showing my Fiancees overseas number for 2,272 text messages. (not the contents) Since January - July Would this help the lack of letters? We have exchange cards. She also has an ATM card we use for sending money. Beats the Western Union costs. The Bank statements states the city the withdrawals are made in for the last 9 months ++

I do have the usual pics from meeting in person and paypal receipts for eloads to her cell and copies of some calling cards I have bought online. How many chat logs should I send? I have about 1 years worth archived on Yahoo messanger? The evidence package Im sending her is getting very very large.

Thanks for any comments

Sending her money and loading her cell phone might seem like good evidence of bona fides but I'd have her keep all that tucked away instead of offering it as evidence. It can be consrued as you being taken advantage of as easily as anything else.

Visits are actually the best evidence of bona fides.

Western Union receipts have been useful in the past by others and accepted. (I used them in 2001) a $3.00 load of a cell phone a couple times a month considering the large amount of texting we do shouldn't be looked at as being taken advantage of. Depending on the amount a person sends would determine if they are being taken advantage of. As for an ATM card, why pay $15 to western union to send $20? just dont make any sense.

Might be a good idea to keep it out of the initial evidence package.

No, three bucks for a cell phone load isn't a problem and I agree with the benefit of a debit card over using Western Union. My wife and I did the same thing but even though she was my wife already, we offered no evidence of having exchanged money.

Certainly there's no reason to include anything like this with the petition but again, I'd keep the evidence in the back pocket at the interview and use more compelling, straight forward evidence of bona fides that show a two-way relationship, including visits and regular communication. Sending a foreign fiancee money is not evidence of a bona fide relationship. It's evidence of sending money to a foreigner. A joint bank account would be evidence of bona fides.

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Hello,

Im not a big letter writter. I have original cellphone bills showing my Fiancees overseas number for 2,272 text messages. (not the contents) Since January - July Would this help the lack of letters? We have exchange cards. She also has an ATM card we use for sending money. Beats the Western Union costs. The Bank statements states the city the withdrawals are made in for the last 9 months ++

I do have the usual pics from meeting in person and paypal receipts for eloads to her cell and copies of some calling cards I have bought online. How many chat logs should I send? I have about 1 years worth archived on Yahoo messanger? The evidence package Im sending her is getting very very large.

Thanks for any comments

No, you don't need letters - I don't think we showed that until the consulate stage. E-mails are texts are just other ways of "writing letters".

As far as your evidence package, I'd suggest sending a little bit of everything (phone bills, proof of texts, e-mails, pictures, etc) than everything you have. That's what we did.

Good luck!

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Hello,

Im not a big letter writter. I have original cellphone bills showing my Fiancees overseas number for 2,272 text messages. (not the contents) Since January - July Would this help the lack of letters? We have exchange cards. She also has an ATM card we use for sending money. Beats the Western Union costs. The Bank statements states the city the withdrawals are made in for the last 9 months ++

I do have the usual pics from meeting in person and paypal receipts for eloads to her cell and copies of some calling cards I have bought online. How many chat logs should I send? I have about 1 years worth archived on Yahoo messanger? The evidence package Im sending her is getting very very large.

Thanks for any comments

Sending her money and loading her cell phone might seem like good evidence of bona fides but I'd have her keep all that tucked away instead of offering it as evidence. It can be consrued as you being taken advantage of as easily as anything else.

Visits are actually the best evidence of bona fides.

Western Union receipts have been useful in the past by others and accepted. (I used them in 2001) a $3.00 load of a cell phone a couple times a month considering the large amount of texting we do shouldn't be looked at as being taken advantage of. Depending on the amount a person sends would determine if they are being taken advantage of. As for an ATM card, why pay $15 to western union to send $20? just dont make any sense.

Might be a good idea to keep it out of the initial evidence package.

No, three bucks for a cell phone load isn't a problem and I agree with the benefit of a debit card over using Western Union. My wife and I did the same thing but even though she was my wife already, we offered no evidence of having exchanged money.

Certainly there's no reason to include anything like this with the petition but again, I'd keep the evidence in the back pocket at the interview and use more compelling, straight forward evidence of bona fides that show a two-way relationship, including visits and regular communication. Sending a foreign fiancee money is not evidence of a bona fide relationship. It's evidence of sending money to a foreigner. A joint bank account would be evidence of bona fides.

Well I did this process in 2001 and I included some western union receipts and I will do the same this time. There is nothing wrong with including a few as I've known of so many others who have included it. They are not naive enough to think money doesnt exchange hands. I didnt include any "questions" about sending personal pics and other BONA FIDE evidence as I already know this should be included. Now is it possible to have a joint bank account with your fiancee? I dont know anyone who has opened a bank account with thier fiancee. I have all the meeting in person evidence I need. I've been there 7 times and I am Godfather to 2 of my future nephews. Church documents, family pictures, and much more.

thanks for your comments

[Labhrais 6]

Now is it possible to have a joint bank account with your fiancee? I dont know anyone who has opened a bank account with thier fiancee.

J. and I opened a joint bank account while he was here on his last visit. Our bank required that we both appear in person, and that the non-USC needs to bring their passport. It was actually pretty simple, and since we both signed the account paperwork right there at the bank we made sure we got extra copies of it to include in our K1 filing package as extra proof that we were together. Going forward, we'll also keep copies of deposit records to show on-going relationship for when we get to the interview stage.

There was an extra IRS tax form that only J. had to sign as well, I forget the title/form # of it but it basically was a statement that he wasn't subject to US taxes as a foreigner.

Your bank should be able to tell you what their requirements are for opening up a joint bank account with a non-USC.

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Now is it possible to have a joint bank account with your fiancee? I dont know anyone who has opened a bank account with thier fiancee.

J. and I opened a joint bank account while he was here on his last visit. Our bank required that we both appear in person, and that the non-USC needs to bring their passport. It was actually pretty simple, and since we both signed the account paperwork right there at the bank we made sure we got extra copies of it to include in our K1 filing package as extra proof that we were together. Going forward, we'll also keep copies of deposit records to show on-going relationship for when we get to the interview stage.

There was an extra IRS tax form that only J. had to sign as well, I forget the title/form # of it but it basically was a statement that he wasn't subject to US taxes as a foreigner.

Your bank should be able to tell you what their requirements are for opening up a joint bank account with a non-USC.

You are completely correct. I often forget that some have the luury that their fiancee can be here in the USA. I have dealt only with the Philippines. Eventhough many are here in the USA it is hard to get a visa to visit here. So I meant opening a bank account with a fiancee (overseas) in the Philippines. I had no interest to open an account in the Philippines with her. I will still include my banking statement as it would not hinder my petition.