DS-3025 problem?

[sense1 0]

Hello Everyone,

My fiancee arrived here a few weeks ago. Last night I asked to see her paperwork. She said that she did not have the form DS-3025 because the lady at IOM told her that she could get vaccinations here in the U.S. My fiancee admitted to wanting to keep more of the money that I sent and that is why she didn't get the shots done. Maybe I have misunderstood how this is supposed to happen, but I didn't think she could even get into the U.S. without the proper vaccinations. I am wondering now how I will get this form for her and her son. If anyone has any ideas... Please help.

[mendeleev 68]

Just how you proceed in detail depends on how thoroughly you want to wade in and study the requirements. Does your wife have a Russian copy of her medical records, including vaccinations, for herself and her son? If you are in a large city, you may be able to find a Civil Surgeon who also speaks Russian and who, therefore, can read the documentation. Then she'll need vaccinations to cover the gap. It is likely that she'll need MMR, since this vaccination is not routinely given in Russia. There may be other gaps.

If you search this website or the CDC site, you can find documents that describe the vaccinations required of immigrats as a function of their age. It may help you to thoroughly understand these requirements if avoiding unnecessary vaccination is important to you.

It is possible that your family can receive the needed vaccinations from the public health authority in your area. You'll need to get their records of it and then find a Civil Surgeon who will accept this record and transcribe it onto the 693A.

I suggest that you did in and thoroughly understand the requirements, unless excessive vaccination and unnecessary cost are not an issue for you.

[sense1 0]

I looked at all of her paperwork last night. she has very little. There is no medical paperwork(records) other than her receipt from IOM.

[mendeleev 68]

Can a relative get a properly certified set of immunization records?

[sense1 0]

Can a relative get a properly certified set of immunization records?

I'm not sure how this would work. Would she call her uncle and have him pay someone to "manufacture" a set of immunization records for her and her son? When she went to her medical exam and interview in Moscow she did not bring any medical records from her city. She said she had no doctor and no immunization records.

[mendeleev 68]

I don't know so much as to how conditions vary in different parts of Russia. In Novosibirsk, they seemed to be very good at keeping medical passports in good order. Much better than in the USA. So what I am reading is a bit strange to my eyes. But, again, my wife was born (and her son) were born in Soviet times and they were much more organized then.

I do not advocate manufacture of medical records out of thin air, which would be fraud. If a relative has her medical passport, vaccination records will be in it and it may be possible to get competent medical authorities to certify them.

If you wife and her son indeed did not get normal immunizations, then there is no threat of double vaccination. It would be most appropriate to get them fully immunized. Much of my preceeding advice still stands, though: it is too your advantage to understand what CDC requires in the way of immigrant vaccination. Then, see if you can get a public health authority to provide those vaccinations together with appropriate receipts. Shop around for a Civil Surgeon. Most US cities have lots of them and the amounts they charge for their services, which not cheap, can vary a lot.

[Satellite 1]

She said that she did not have the form DS-3025 because the lady at IOM told her that she could get vaccinations here in the U.S. My fiancée admitted to wanting to keep more of the money that I sent and that is why she didn't get the shots done. Maybe I have misunderstood how this is supposed to happen, but I didn't think she could even get into the U.S. without the proper vaccinations.

You must have gotten the same lady we did nearly 4 years ago. She flat out refused to give my wife the required vaccinations for the $30 they were charging then. That is a good deal compared to what most of us will pay in the US for those same shots. We even had a proper medical passport with us. The good news is that we got those shots done at public health here in the US for $10 each, thus we didn't lose that much money, by my wife had to suffer through most of the same shots she already had. But for most of you, who can't get a fiancée on your health insurance and won't take them to a place like a public health, the cost of vaccinations along with the civil surgeon visit who has to sign off on it, is going to be very price. Doing to a test for the presence of vaccinations is also costly. Edited July 29, 2008 by Satellite

[sense1 0]

She said that she did not have the form DS-3025 because the lady at IOM told her that she could get vaccinations here in the U.S. My fiancée admitted to wanting to keep more of the money that I sent and that is why she didn't get the shots done. Maybe I have misunderstood how this is supposed to happen, but I didn't think she could even get into the U.S. without the proper vaccinations.

You must have gotten the same lady we did nearly 4 years ago. She flat out refused to give my wife the required vaccinations for the $30 they were charging then. That is a good deal compared to what most of us will pay in the US for those same shots. We even had a proper medical passport with us. The good news is that we got those shots done at public health here in the US for $10 each, thus we didn't lose that much money, by my wife had to suffer through most of the same shots she already had. But for most of you, who can't get a fiancée on your health insurance and won't take them to a place like a public health, the cost of vaccinations along with the civil surgeon visit who has to sign off on it, is going to be very price. Doing to a test for the presence of vaccinations is also costly.

I will take my fiancee and her son to a public health facility if the vaccination records will be accepted for AOS, work permit, etc.

[mendeleev 68]

Hello Everyone,

... She said that she did not have the form DS-3025 because the lady at IOM told her that she could get vaccinations here in the U.S.

Another reason not to go to IOM (MOM to Russians). They also have a history of harassment. We got quite good (but not perfect) service at AOM.

[Satellite 1]

I will take my fiancée and her son to a public health facility if the vaccination records will be accepted for AOS, work permit, etc.

It's completely up to the civil surgeon here in the US to accept that Russian vaccination records, ours did not. So you just get them done again. What else can you do?

As far as not needing vaccinations for a K1 to enter the US, the staff there is absolutely right about that.

Another reason not to go to IOM (MOM to Russians). They also have a history of harassment. We got quite good (but not perfect) service at AOM.

As for harassment, most recent reports on the clinic have been absent of such reports. My wife can attest to no such treatment in 2004. Edited July 29, 2008 by Satellite

[slim 1,525]

I would probably have the uncle send some medical records if possible. The civil surgeon here may consider them. It would probably be a good idea to have the uncle send a DS-3025 if possible.

[sense1 0]

I would probably have the uncle send some medical records if possible. The civil surgeon here may consider them. It would probably be a good idea to have the uncle send a DS-3025 if possible.

No medical records are available. She had no regular doctor in Ufa. Also, no DS-3025 that can be sent either. I am even having trouble finding a civil surgeon in my area. I called a few doctor's offices(civil surgeons) that were listed on the USCIS website and they all refer me to the local health department for vaccinations. My fiancee will need to have 5 shots and her son needs 9. At my local health clinic they are priced individually at $88 to $100 each. This cost I was definitely not prepared for

[slim 1,525]

If you take the money she "saved" from her medical exam, send it to the uncle, couldn't he have someone there "make" a DS-3025 for them? That could be possible.

If not, there's a civil surgeon in Texas somewhere that's supposed to be hip to this "dilemma." Search somewhere here in the Russia Forum and you'll find a post with his name/number listed. You could contact him and he could hook you up for pretty cheap. I don't recall his name or where it was posted but it would be worth finding.

Another option you have is to wait. You have plenty of time to apply for AOS so no hurry. Start saving money. Also, don't forget, you need to get married sometime as well! Get her on your insurance (if you have insurance) and then get all the shots needed and hope for the best. Worst case scenario you owe some doctors office some money. Big deal. At least you'll get the shots you need and be able to apply for AOS and she can start working and paying for stuff.

Do yourself a favor. Relax a little, take some time with this and don't stress out about getting it done ASAP. Research it as much as possible and then explore the options.

[slim 1,525]

Just noticed too, you said your local clinic has shots for $88+. That's outrageous. You must be talking to a private clinic. Call your "public health" clinic (the one where all the "Jerry Springer" folks go) and see what kind of prices they offer.

Your profile says you're near Detroit. I'm finding it hard to believe people inside Detroit metro pay $88+ per shot.