WALMART

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

It's all about responsibility, people...let's stop shifting the blame to big bad Wal-Mart.

I ain't blaming Wal-Mart. I'd blame myself if I'd shop there. Since I don't, I get o blame those that do.

[Fandango 1,439]

wal-mart is capitalism at its most evil form...

I am not anti-capitalism.. but.. wal-mart has a goal to wipe-out union stores who sell american products... they did it in my small town, and that's their goal all over the country.

No, the consumers in your town did it.

This is to everyone:

If you feel you hav a real gripe with the way things work, why not get out and DO something about it instead of just sitting back whinging about Wal-Mart? If Wal mart is so effing evil...arrange a neighborhood boycott! Don't jsut sit back and say 'WalMart's making America poor' that's shifting the blame & is a complete load of bollocks! WalMart's not holding a gun to anyone's head!

It's all about responsibility, people...let's stop shifting the blame to big bad Wal-Mart.

I ain't blaming Wal-Mart. I'd blame myself if I'd shop there. Since I don't, I get o blame those that do.

Exactly!

[iceyspots 0]

Is it the chicken or the egg?

[Fandango 1,439]

Is it the chicken or the egg?

With all due respect, Icey, that makes no sense. Without consumers, stores fail. WalMart thrives off the business consumers give it. Without customers, WM is nothing.

If your neighbors didn't go into walmart, and kept going to the local shops, they'd still be in business. It's that simple.

So I'm sorry, it's not a 'chicken or egg' situation afaic.

[Fischkoepfin 1]

To assume that Walmart's model of capitalism is not Walmart's fault is somewhat absurd. Walmart aims at destroying competition and doesn't care about anything but profits which is a short-sighted way of doing business because it erodes it own customer base.

That, however, doesn't mean that the consumer shopping at Walmart is an innocent victim especially not if the consumer shops at Walmart despite information showing the danger of Walmart capitalism.

[yabasta 0]

I would also like to add that the King Of The Hill episode dealing with Walmart(although it had another name of course) was very funny/true i think.

[I'm Gone 60]

Is it the chicken or the egg?

Both are cheaper at WalMart. LOL

[almaty 19]

Is it the chicken or the egg?

Both are cheaper at WalMart. LOL

pwned by md !

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

To assume that Walmart's model of capitalism is not Walmart's fault is somewhat absurd. Walmart aims at destroying competition and doesn't care about anything but profits which is a short-sighted way of doing business because it erodes it own customer base.

But Wal-Mart could and would not pursue such model if the consumer would not support it. As Lisa said, if people don't shop there, WalMart wouldn't be there. We're all trained to be shortsighted these days. Wall Street did that well...

[Fandango 1,439]

To assume that Walmart's model of capitalism is not Walmart's fault is somewhat absurd. Walmart aims at destroying competition and doesn't care about anything but profits which is a short-sighted way of doing business because it erodes it own customer base.

That, however, doesn't mean that the consumer shopping at Walmart is an innocent victim especially not if the consumer shops at Walmart despite information showing the danger of Walmart capitalism.

Wal mart has every right to conduct business. If people are so adamant against them, don't shop there.

WM would go out of business if people weren't concerned about the 'bottom line' with saving a few dollars. So all of a sudden, that's Wm's fault for providing that service? Bollocks!!!

THANK you ET, you understand what I'm saying

[Fischkoepfin 1]

To assume that Walmart's model of capitalism is not Walmart's fault is somewhat absurd. Walmart aims at destroying competition and doesn't care about anything but profits which is a short-sighted way of doing business because it erodes it own customer base.

But Wal-Mart could and would not pursue such model if the consumer would not support it. As Lisa said, if people don't shop there, WalMart wouldn't be there. We're all trained to be shortsighted these days. Wall Street did that well...

Right, that's what I try to say in the second part of my post. It's impossible not to blame consumers in the same way as it is impossible to abdicate Walmart. As you can probably guess, I'm weary of releasing companies from responsibility and I think that an argument focusing exclusively on the consumer does just that.

[tsunamihart 0]

wal-mart is capitalism at its most evil form...

Kinda funny how I see the big trucks that have the "Buy American" stickers at Wal mart..

It's especially funny and sad when you see how they're forcing their vendors to outsource to China, Indonesia, anywhere there is dirt cheap labor to bring their goods onto their shelves...

[yabasta 0]

To a certain degree comsumers have power but at the same time Walmart has powers of persuasion and so sometimes people leave their moral views of a store with the in store greeter while they feed their family as best they can afford. There is a point when workers and consumers should fight but it is not easy when Wamart have much greater resources. Sure to a degree that power was given by the people but the people can`t as easily reverse their mistake even if they do see it.

Edited May 17, 2006 by yabasta

[Fischkoepfin 1]

Wal mart has every right to conduct business. If people are so adamant against them, don't shop there.

WM would go out of business if people weren't concerned about the 'bottom line' with saving a few dollars. So all of a sudden, that's Wm's fault for providing that service? Bollocks!!!

THANK you ET, you understand what I'm saying

Of course, they have the right to conduct business the way they like, but that doesn't mean that it is not bad for the country. Without trying to step on your toes, I do wonder if you actually read the article because it points to some problems to the country that are entirely of Walmart's making (and I'm not referring to pickles).

I don't shop at Walmart and I advocate a boycott to everyone I know because I do believe that consumers are partly responsible for the problem. But as you rightly pointed out it's not a chicken or egg question, but a problem resulting from both sides.

[Fandango 1,439]

To a certain degree comsumers have power but at the same time Walmart has powers of persuasion and so sometimes people leave their moral views of a store with the in store greeter while they feed their family as best they can afford. There is a point when workers and consumers should fight but it is not easy when Wamart have much greater resources. Sure to a degree that power was given by the people but the people can`t as easily reverse their mistake even if they do see it.

God I love this....'powers of persuasion'!!!

'your honor, it wasn't my fault that I did ________________, so and so PERSUEDED ME!!!

Hrm, I wonder if that would work in this non-responsibility taking society we have become.

And Fischkoepfin, I'm not saying WalMart is just wonderful and great & whatnot...but I am so sick of the 'evil WalMart' angle. Suppliers don't have to supply them. Consumers don't have to buy stuff. And if xyz company outsources jobs so they can stay competitive and supply walmart, well thats their choice!

No one's forcing anyone to do anything. And ultimately, I feel it boils down to the consumer. They don't have huge parking lots for no reason!