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I don't need a visa.... I am a citizen.

I am not free to leave..... since you don't know me or my situation you are welcome to keep your opinons to yourself.

I don't know your situation, but unless you are imprisoned, you are free to leave. Furthermore, you can renounce your US citizenship at any time. It can be done.

If you'd like to do it, it can be done. Good luck! :thumbs:

Some people are parents here with shared custody. Free to leave is a loose term.

If the sentiment is strong enough, as it appears to be, some people will renounce their custody to their children and leave their country of birth - it has happened.

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I don't need a visa.... I am a citizen.

I am not free to leave..... since you don't know me or my situation you are welcome to keep your opinons to yourself.

I don't know your situation, but unless you are imprisoned, you are free to leave. Furthermore, you can renounce your US citizenship at any time. It can be done.

If you'd like to do it, it can be done. Good luck! :thumbs:

Some people are parents here with shared custody. Free to leave is a loose term.

If the sentiment is strong enough, as it appears to be, some people will renounce their custody to their children and leave their country of birth - it has happened.

Yet another wonderful part of American culture? The abdonment of children? :whistle:

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I have no problems with agreeing to disagree... what I have issue with is the idea that it's OK to talk trash about Islam or its laws are on here all the time and muslims on the board who are repeatedly offended by these remarks are always expected to suck it up and get over it.

It's more bothersome that so many of the ones making these comments are married to muslims but to each their own.

First off I never hear any negative stuff on Islam, so please tell me who and where this is going on at. I am sorry but I feel you have lost yourself, which saddens me. No one says anything about Islam; to be honest I have heard more negative stuff pointed towards Christians. Of course if you don't believe you will get buried, so I don't have a clue with who you are talking about. Just be sure you know what you are walking in to, have you seen some of the plentys for women in different countries?

Some of these stories will stay with me till the day I die, they have pictures if you like to see, how can people watch this and condone it is a very sad state of affairs.

A recent example of condemning to stoning a child for being violated by her older brother:

THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC CONDEMNS A 13 YEAR OLD GIRL TO STONING

By Safa Haeri Iran Press Service Posted Saturday, October 16, 2004 According to Iranian and foreign press, Zhila Izadi, a 13 year old girl from the north-western city of Marivan had been condemned to death by stoning after being found that she had been pregnant from her 15 years-old brother. The independent Iranian online newspaper "Peyke Iran" (www.peykeiran.com) that had first revealed the news last week reported on Saturday 16 October 2004 that the girl has given birth two weeks ago in prison, but the young girl had been separated from her new born baby after the birth. The father, a devout Muslim, informed the authorities about the "disgrace" the young girl had caused the family. While Zhila as been sentenced to stoning, her brother, jailed in Tehran, is to receive only 150 lashes, in accordance with Islamic laws.

On August 10, 1994, in the city of Arak, a woman was sentenced to death by stoning. According to the ruling of the religious judge, her husband and two children were forced to attend the execution. The woman urged her husband to take the children away, but to no avail. A truck full of stones was brought in to be used during the stoning. In the middle of the stoning, although her eyes had been gouged out, the victim was able to escape from the ditch and started running away, but the regime's guards recaptured her and shot her to death.

Kayhan, October 4, 1986, reported that a 25-year-old woman named Nosrat was stoned to death in the city of Qom. She died after an hour of continuous stoning.

The penalty for adultery under Article 83 of the penal code, called the Law of Hodoud is flogging (100 lashes of the whip) for unmarried male and female offenders. Married offenders may be punished by stoning regardless of their gender, but the method laid down for a man involves his burial up to his waist, and for a woman up to her neck (article 102). The law provides that if a person who is to be stoned manages to escape, he or she will be allowed to go free. Since it is easier for a man to escape, this discrimination literally becomes a matter of life and death.

Interestingly, Article 6 (2) of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, which Iran has ratified, states: "Sentence of death may be imposed only for the most serious crimes in accordance with the law in force at the time of the commission of the crime." Offenses for which the Law of Hodoud provides the death penalty do not involve murder or serious bodily harm, constituting the "most serious crimes".

Article 104 of the Law of Hodoud provides that the stones should not be so large that a person dies after being hit with two of them, nor so small as to be defined as pebbles, but must cause severe injury. This makes it clear that the purpose of stoning is to inflict grievous pain on the victim, in a process leading to his or her slow death.

This process appears to have been initiated by Muhammad in response to Deuteronomic law applied in an ironic twist of judgment against Jews using their own archaic laws against them a millennium after they were written. Stoning then appears to have then spread to become a standard punishment in the hadith.

Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:

"The Jew brought to the Prophet a man and a woman from amongst them who have committed (adultery) illegal sexual intercourse.

He ordered both of them to be stoned (to death), near the place of offering the funeral prayers beside the mosque."

Inside Iran, stonings are trumpeted with great fanfare, but when it comes to the international arena, officials brazenly deny their methods. In an interview with Le Figaro on September 10, 1994, Rafsanjani was asked, "Are women accused of adultery stoned in Iran?" He replied: "No, no such thing exists in Iran. This has been fabricated to damage us."

In his April 1998 trip to France and Sweden, Ayatollah Mohajerani, the Minister of Culture and Islamic Guidance and Khatami's government spokesman, who is regarded to be a moderate figure, discussed several matters. His positions openly contradicted what he says in Iran and the actions of the government. When asked about his views about stoning, Mohajerani refrained from making an unequivocal statement of support for this inhuman practice. Upon returning to Iran, however, he said explicitly that he does not oppose stoning but believes that efforts should be made to stop the dissemination of the news of stoning and filming the scenes.

During Friday prayers, in May of 1998, in the provincial capital of Kermanshah (the largest city in western Iran), Mullah Zarandi had the following to say about the need to carry out stoning: "The security forces have to show more presence in the society. In order to set an example for others, the judiciary should also bring some of those eligible to one of the city squares and amputate their hands. They should also have a series of stoning. I promise that the society will be rectified."

The regime's authorities usually force the victim's family members, including children, to watch the stoning to death of their loved one, and in some instances, when the woman miraculously managed to escape, contrary to the regime's own law, she was recaptured and either stoned again or killed on the spot.

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I don't need a visa.... I am a citizen.

I am not free to leave..... since you don't know me or my situation you are welcome to keep your opinons to yourself.

I don't know your situation, but unless you are imprisoned, you are free to leave. Furthermore, you can renounce your US citizenship at any time. It can be done.

If you'd like to do it, it can be done. Good luck! :thumbs:

Some people are parents here with shared custody. Free to leave is a loose term.

If the sentiment is strong enough, as it appears to be, some people will renounce their custody to their children and leave their country of birth - it has happened.

Yet another wonderful part of American culture? The abdonment of children? :whistle:

I am not condoning abandonment of children - if one felt comfortable enough with the children's other parent having sole custody then they should do what needs to be done. Actually, in my religion (Catholic) you don't abandon your spouse or your children, as divorce is not permitted. You're with your spouse until you die.

Furthermore, it has been very interesting on this board, as I've read of certain spouses who have children that they will be leaving in MENA countries with their mothers...they are Muslim...it cuts both ways.

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THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC CONDEMNS A 13 YEAR OLD GIRL TO STONING

By Safa Haeri Iran Press Service

I plan on moving to Libya, not Iran..... why don't you post something about Libya?

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I don't need a visa.... I am a citizen.

I am not free to leave..... since you don't know me or my situation you are welcome to keep your opinons to yourself.

I don't know your situation, but unless you are imprisoned, you are free to leave. Furthermore, you can renounce your US citizenship at any time. It can be done.

If you'd like to do it, it can be done. Good luck! :thumbs:

Some people are parents here with shared custody. Free to leave is a loose term.

If the sentiment is strong enough, as it appears to be, some people will renounce their custody to their children and leave their country of birth - it has happened.

Yet another wonderful part of American culture? The abdonment of children? :whistle:

I am not condoning abandonment of children - if one felt comfortable enough with the children's other parent having sole custody then they should do what needs to be done. Actually, in my religion (Catholic) you don't abandon your spouse or your children, as divorce is not permitted. You're with your spouse until you die.

Furthermore, it has been very interesting on this board, as I've read of certain spouses who have children that they will be leaving in MENA countries with their mothers...they are Muslim...it cuts both ways.

Good point! :thumbs:

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Actually, in my religion (Catholic) you don't abandon your spouse or your children, as divorce is not permitted. You're with your spouse until you die.

What if your husband is abusive? My ex is Catholic and used to beat me almost daily.... ten years seems like a lifetime.... I'd probably have killed myself if I wouldn't have been allowed to divorce him..... actually, I probably would have killed myself if I didn't have my kids to think about. Thank God I found the stregnth to get myself and my children away from him and found a good husband who would never treat me like that. :star:

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I don't need a visa.... I am a citizen.

I am not free to leave..... since you don't know me or my situation you are welcome to keep your opinons to yourself.

I don't know your situation, but unless you are imprisoned, you are free to leave. Furthermore, you can renounce your US citizenship at any time. It can be done.

If you'd like to do it, it can be done. Good luck! :thumbs:

Some people are parents here with shared custody. Free to leave is a loose term.

If the sentiment is strong enough, as it appears to be, some people will renounce their custody to their children and leave their country of birth - it has happened.

Yet another wonderful part of American culture? The abdonment of children? :whistle:

I am not condoning abandonment of children - if one felt comfortable enough with the children's other parent having sole custody then they should do what needs to be done. Actually, in my religion (Catholic) you don't abandon your spouse or your children, as divorce is not permitted. You're with your spouse until you die.

Furthermore, it has been very interesting on this board, as I've read of certain spouses who have children that they will be leaving in MENA countries with their mothers...they are Muslim...it cuts both ways.

Good point! :thumbs:

Staashi and S&S ya'll are on a roll... you go girls ! :star::thumbs:

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THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC CONDEMNS A 13 YEAR OLD GIRL TO STONING

By Safa Haeri Iran Press Service

I plan on moving to Libya, not Iran..... why don't you post something about Libya?

done!

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THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC CONDEMNS A 13 YEAR OLD GIRL TO STONING

By Safa Haeri Iran Press Service

I plan on moving to Libya, not Iran..... why don't you post something about Libya?

done!

link

:P

Charles! Your brain is too quick! :devil:

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