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Filed: K-3 Visa Country: Philippines
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Howdy all you knowledgable folks out there in VJ land... :help:

I quite admittedly have been pretty focused on our CR-1 visa and the K3 slipped by me a bit. Now that it's approved, I'm a bit lost. I'm looking at the guide here:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...om&page=k3guide

and all it talks about needing for the interview is stuff from me (I-134, NOA2, etc). Of course, I'm sure that sending all the "evidence" (i hate calling it that) of our relationship will be helpful as well. But she doesn't have to submit any paperwork? No DS-230? She doesn't need her birth certificate? Marriage certificate? For some reason, I had it stuck in my head that we would need to file a DS-230 for the K3 visa as well. Here is why this is particularly important for our case: apparently in the Philippines, you are only allowed to request one nbi (police) clearance per year. If this gets tied up in the K3, then it won't be available for the CR-1 when we need it at the NVC (hopefully in a few weeks). This is definitely not desirable. It seems hard to believe that there's virtually no paperwork required of the (non)immigrant before coming here. The guide mentions "vaccination records" (which she doesn't have), and unspecified "other items", which does concern me just a little bit.

So am I just completely overreacting again and freaking out for nothing, or is there indeed something larger looming over us that I just haven't found yet (or found once, but can't find again)? If this is the case that it's required for both, what would be the way to handle it? Of course I don't want create the paradox where I put our CR-1 on hold while the K3 is processed. Also, if this is the case, can any of our fellow VJ filipinos comment on how they handled it? Photocopy for the K3 with a note saying that the cert will be arriving with the CR-1? Thanks everyone for your comments. ttyl,

mich

Let me show you how to get your tax returns the easy way

aussiewench's thread for kicking butt in the NVC ('cause i'm too lazy to keep looking it up - haha)

Our DS-3032 email to the NVC

02 Jan 2006 - Married

...----===::: CR-1 :::===---...

22 May 2006 - Case # Assigned @ NVC

14 Jul 2006 - DS-230 Package Received by USC

We stopped pursuit of CR-1 to pursue K3/AOS. For us, both required the same document, we could only have one valid copy, and the K3 was moving faster.

See profile for the details up to and in between the events listed here.

...---===::: K3 :::===---...

17 May 2006 - Date NVC says petition shipped to embassy

18 May 2006 - Case # Assigned @ NVC

01 Jul 2006 - Packet "3" received from embassy

18 Jul 2006 - Medical

21 Sept 2006 - K3 Interview Date (APPROVED)

27 Sept 2006 - Received Visa

06 Oct 2006 - Arrives in the USA! Finally home together. :)

(Truncated timeline - sig too long. See profile for all details.)

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Congratulations on making it to this point! ;)

I'm not sure how much help I can be, but at least I can reassure you that you're not crazy for thinking that the DS230 would be required. :hehe:

The "guide" for the K3 is very vague - it's usually best to click on the Embassy link & read what it tells you for your local embassy. However, I just looked at the Philippine link & it doesn't say anything about a DS230. I agree that's perplexing. The UK embassy requires the DS230 (part 1), DS156, DS 156k & DS 157 (for men). As for the police certificate, we take that with us to the interview instead of mailing it in. I believe you get back any originals right then & they can make copies of what they need.

I would suggest looking at the Philippine Embassy website itself, or contacting them directly to ask about that DS230.

Good luck & be sure to let everyone else know what you find out!! :thumbs:

CR-1:

14-Dec-05: Sent I-130 to London for DCF

28-Dec-05: Letter from Embassy denying due to LLR

17-Jan-06: RFE from TX due to "lack of payment"; USCIS won't accept credit card form from Embassy

01-Feb-06: Sent new I-130 to TX with personal check

13-Feb-06: NOA1

02-June-06: NOA2

05-June-06: Case received at NVC; case # assigned

26-June-06: DS-3032 Choice of Agent rec'd via snail mail

06-July-06: DS-3032 COA mailed; AOS bill mailed

24-July-06: IV bill generated

31-July-06: I-864 rec'd via snail mail; IV bill rec'd

31-Aug-06: IV bill mailed (delayed due to move to US)

21-Sep-06: DS-230 rec'd via snail mail

02-Oct-06: DS-230 & I-864 mailed

08-Nov-06: Case completed at NVC & forwarded to London Embassy!!!

28-Feb-07: Final Interview at London Embassy

01-Mar-07: Visa in hand!!!

Removal of Conditions:

16-Feb-09: I-751 sent to VSC

23-Feb-09: I-751 NOA1

10-Apr-09: Biometrics Appt

02-Sep-09: Approved - 10-yr Green Card Production Ordered

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mich,

See the Visa FAQ for better information about what needs to be done for the visa application and interview.

Yodrak

Howdy all you knowledgable folks out there in VJ land... :help:

I quite admittedly have been pretty focused on our CR-1 visa and the K3 slipped by me a bit. Now that it's approved, I'm a bit lost. I'm looking at the guide here:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...om&page=k3guide

and all it talks about needing for the interview is stuff from me (I-134, NOA2, etc). Of course, I'm sure that sending all the "evidence" (i hate calling it that) of our relationship will be helpful as well. But she doesn't have to submit any paperwork? No DS-230? She doesn't need her birth certificate? Marriage certificate? For some reason, I had it stuck in my head that we would need to file a DS-230 for the K3 visa as well. ....

mich

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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Mich,

She'll need to present birth, marriage, police certificates and all that other stuff for a K-3 interview.

I don't know how it is for applicants from the Philippines, but for my case, I had to send all that stuff to NVC for the CR-1.

For K-3, I'm getting a second copy of all the documents. I have requested a second certified copy of our marriage certificate, plus I've applied for police certificates again... and so on. Although, as Rebster suggested, I think you can show them the originals during the interview (they'll keep the photocopies).

Good luck! (And congratulations on getting that I-129F approved.)

CR-1

09/16/2005 Mailed I-130 (CSC)

09/21/2005 NOA 1

02/07/2006 NOA 2 (Day 143)

02/25/2006 Petitioner receives AOS Bill in U.S. (Day 161)

02/27/2006 AOS Bill (regular USPS) and DS-3032 (Canada Post regular) are mailed out

03/21/2006 Petitioner receives I-864 package (Day 185)

03/22/2006 Beneficiary receives IV Bill and sends payment - regular mail (Day 186)

03/24/2006 Petitioner sends back I-864 (Day 188)

04/13/2006 Beneficiary receives DS-230 (Day 208)

05/10/2006 Beneficiary sends back DS-230 and docs to NVC via Fedex (Day 235)

05/19/2006 NVC issues RFE on Question # 20 on the DS-230. (Day 244)

05/29/2006 Beneficiary receives RFE and sends it off (Day 254)

06/02/2006 NVC receives RFE (Day 258)

06/16/2006 Case Complete! (Day 272)

07/07/2006 Case forwarded to Consulate in Montreal (Day 293)

08/11/2006 INTERVIEW! VISA APPROVED!

08/14/2006 Picked up visa and crossed the border.

08/25/2006 SS card arrives in the mail

09/07/2006 GC arrives in the mail.

K-3

02/01/2006 Mailed I-129F

02/07/2006 NOA1

04/14/2006 I-129F is approved!

04/24/2006 NVC forwards the application to the consulate in Montreal

05/01/2006 Packet 3 is received from consulate & is sent of 3 days later

07/07/2006 Medical

08/08/2006 INTERVIEW- cancelled bec. of CR-1

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Filed: K-3 Visa Country: Philippines
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Congratulations on making it to this point! ;)

I'm not sure how much help I can be, but at least I can reassure you that you're not crazy for thinking that the DS230 would be required. :hehe:

The "guide" for the K3 is very vague - it's usually best to click on the Embassy link & read what it tells you for your local embassy. However, I just looked at the Philippine link & it doesn't say anything about a DS230. I agree that's perplexing. The UK embassy requires the DS230 (part 1), DS156, DS 156k & DS 157 (for men). As for the police certificate, we take that with us to the interview instead of mailing it in. I believe you get back any originals right then & they can make copies of what they need.

I would suggest looking at the Philippine Embassy website itself, or contacting them directly to ask about that DS230.

Good luck & be sure to let everyone else know what you find out!! :thumbs:

I was just looking at the Embassy Info too and yeah... it's a bit strange. There's not even a mention of a DS-230. I hope that you're right that they'd just make copies and send us on our way. I think that you're right that in the end I'll just need to contact them and find out what the deal is. I didn't think my situation was terribly unique... but I guess I'm just a special person :thumbs: Yeah, will definitely post back what I find out... it's starting to seem that this is a bit specific by consulate, so I hope that it will still be useful. :)

mich,

See the Visa FAQ for better information about what needs to be done for the visa application and interview.

Yodrak

Howdy all you knowledgable folks out there in VJ land... :help:

I quite admittedly have been pretty focused on our CR-1 visa and the K3 slipped by me a bit. Now that it's approved, I'm a bit lost. I'm looking at the guide here:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...om&page=k3guide

and all it talks about needing for the interview is stuff from me (I-134, NOA2, etc). Of course, I'm sure that sending all the "evidence" (i hate calling it that) of our relationship will be helpful as well. But she doesn't have to submit any paperwork? No DS-230? She doesn't need her birth certificate? Marriage certificate? For some reason, I had it stuck in my head that we would need to file a DS-230 for the K3 visa as well. ....

mich

Yodrak - Thanks! I hadn't even noticed that tab up there, but I see some things in there that look pretty useful. :) Though a *lot* of the links for the K3 point back to the same guide that I cited above :P Looks like 12.0 might be a step closer and a bit more help. Though I also compared the Embassy info for Philippines to UK and noticed there are some differences, so maybe Rebster is right that contacting the embassy will be the only way to really get the info that I need (hey, VJ can't have everything, right? ;) ).

Mich,

She'll need to present birth, marriage, police certificates and all that other stuff for a K-3 interview.

I don't know how it is for applicants from the Philippines, but for my case, I had to send all that stuff to NVC for the CR-1.

For K-3, I'm getting a second copy of all the documents. I have requested a second certified copy of our marriage certificate, plus I've applied for police certificates again... and so on. Although, as Rebster suggested, I think you can show them the originals during the interview (they'll keep the photocopies).

Good luck! (And congratulations on getting that I-129F approved.)

This is what I was concerned about. :( Unfortunately, she's told me that in the philippines, you can request only one nbi clearance per year. Making things even more interesting is the fact that there's a local one and one for traveling abroad - and you can only get one or the other of those, not both! :angry: I guess they'll just refuse/ignore any subsequent requests. This is why I'm particularly concerned about it. The marriage certificate, birth certificate, etc, we're getting plenty of copies since it seems like we need new ones for everything all the time.

I guess if they just inspect and photocopy the original at the K3 interview (which I'm sure will be before the CR-1 as we haven't even started the NVC process and the average waiting time from case complete to interview for a CR-1 seems to be about 3 months and the K3 NOA2 expires at the beginning of sept), then maybe that would work as we'd still have the original for the CR-1 paperwork - the trick will then just be making sure that she has it for the interview and I have it to send to the NVC at the right times.

Thanks everyone for your comments!

Let me show you how to get your tax returns the easy way

aussiewench's thread for kicking butt in the NVC ('cause i'm too lazy to keep looking it up - haha)

Our DS-3032 email to the NVC

02 Jan 2006 - Married

...----===::: CR-1 :::===---...

22 May 2006 - Case # Assigned @ NVC

14 Jul 2006 - DS-230 Package Received by USC

We stopped pursuit of CR-1 to pursue K3/AOS. For us, both required the same document, we could only have one valid copy, and the K3 was moving faster.

See profile for the details up to and in between the events listed here.

...---===::: K3 :::===---...

17 May 2006 - Date NVC says petition shipped to embassy

18 May 2006 - Case # Assigned @ NVC

01 Jul 2006 - Packet "3" received from embassy

18 Jul 2006 - Medical

21 Sept 2006 - K3 Interview Date (APPROVED)

27 Sept 2006 - Received Visa

06 Oct 2006 - Arrives in the USA! Finally home together. :)

(Truncated timeline - sig too long. See profile for all details.)

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Filed: K-3 Visa Country: Philippines
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Howdy... I've been chasing around links on the Embassy in Manila page for a while and I think that I finally ended up in the right place. According to the state department here: http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/ty...es_1315.html#6c she will need all those things, but as long as she has clear photocopies, they will be returned to her. This seems to pretty much match up with the comments everyone's posted so far. I may still drop an email to the embassy to make sure that this is still accurate and that there will not be any difficulties for us to maintain posession of the original. Hope this helps someone else too! :) ttyl,

mich

Applying for a Visa

The embassy or consulate where you, the spouse of an American citizen, will apply for a K-3 visa must be in the country where your marriage took place. Here are the procedures to apply. The embassy or consulate will let you know any additional things to do, such as where you need to go for the required medical examination. The following is required:

* Two copies of form DS-156, Nonimmigrant Visa Application

* One DS-156K, Nonimmigrant Fiancé(e) Visa Application form

* Police certificates from all places lived in since the age of 16

* Birth certificates

* Marriage certificate for spouse

* Death and divorce certificates from any previous spouses

* Medical examination (except vaccinations)

* A passport valid for travel to the United States and with a validity date at least six months beyond the applicant's intended period of stay in the United States.

* Two nonimmigrant visa photos

* two inches/50 X 50 mm square, showing full face, against a light background)

* Proof of financial support (Form I-134 Affidavit of Support may be requested.)

* Payment of fees, as explained below

The consular officer may ask for additional information. It is a good idea to bring marriage photographs and other proof that the marriage is genuine.

Documents in foreign languages should be translated. Take clear, legible photocopies of civil documents, such as birth and marriage certificates, to the visa interview. Original documents can then be returned to you.

Let me show you how to get your tax returns the easy way

aussiewench's thread for kicking butt in the NVC ('cause i'm too lazy to keep looking it up - haha)

Our DS-3032 email to the NVC

02 Jan 2006 - Married

...----===::: CR-1 :::===---...

22 May 2006 - Case # Assigned @ NVC

14 Jul 2006 - DS-230 Package Received by USC

We stopped pursuit of CR-1 to pursue K3/AOS. For us, both required the same document, we could only have one valid copy, and the K3 was moving faster.

See profile for the details up to and in between the events listed here.

...---===::: K3 :::===---...

17 May 2006 - Date NVC says petition shipped to embassy

18 May 2006 - Case # Assigned @ NVC

01 Jul 2006 - Packet "3" received from embassy

18 Jul 2006 - Medical

21 Sept 2006 - K3 Interview Date (APPROVED)

27 Sept 2006 - Received Visa

06 Oct 2006 - Arrives in the USA! Finally home together. :)

(Truncated timeline - sig too long. See profile for all details.)

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