I give up....

[Munesh and Suz 0]

I think I'm ready to quit the fight. I just want a freakin denial letter now so I can start the K-3 process. Why must we wait for every freakin thing - six months to get a denial letter - #######? I'm just extremely frustrated right now and the congressman's office - FULL OF BULLCRAP! They don't understand immigration and the timeliness that things need to get done - all I keep hearing is 30 days is what we usually give for a response - MORE - #######? Does she not understand when I say WE DON'T HAVE 30 FRIKKEN DAYS???? JUST F'N GIVE ME THE GOD DAMN DENIAL LETTER...............

Don't they realize we're going to be married with our without this FRIKIN STAMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[brnidokiegurl 0]

if your waiting on a denial letter from vermont it maybe awhile, the last k1 i knew there is going on 2 years and still waiting

[Old Dominion 26]

I think I'm ready to quit the fight. I just want a freakin denial letter now so I can start the K-3 process. Why must we wait for every freakin thing - six months to get a denial letter - #######? I'm just extremely frustrated right now and the congressman's office - FULL OF BULLCRAP! They don't understand immigration and the timeliness that things need to get done - all I keep hearing is 30 days is what we usually give for a response - MORE - #######? Does she not understand when I say WE DON'T HAVE 30 FRIKKEN DAYS???? JUST F'N GIVE ME THE GOD DAMN DENIAL LETTER...............

Don't they realize we're going to be married with our without this FRIKIN STAMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who said you will get a denial letter? The successful petition for the visa is simply returned to the Dept. of State (NVC) with a recommendation that it be revoked. If your fiance was told this would happen, there is usually a reason given as to why the consulate is recommending revocation...meaning, of course, that they will not approve a visa for some reason or another, based on their findings. Their findings are kinda final

[Munesh and Suz 0]

Well since their findings are kinda final - and I kinda figured that - I want to start applying for the spousal visa - I'm going back home soon so we will get married - but we can't file any paperwork until this current case is closed officially with a denial letter - isn't that bullcrap?

PLUS - the NVC still hasn't received the case back yet - and it will either go to the CSC or VSC.

Does anyone know how I can get the case to be transferred to the Miami home office?

[morocco4ever 63]

I think I'm ready to quit the fight. I just want a freakin denial letter now so I can start the K-3 process. Why must we wait for every freakin thing - six months to get a denial letter - #######? I'm just extremely frustrated right now and the congressman's office - FULL OF BULLCRAP! They don't understand immigration and the timeliness that things need to get done - all I keep hearing is 30 days is what we usually give for a response - MORE - #######? Does she not understand when I say WE DON'T HAVE 30 FRIKKEN DAYS???? JUST F'N GIVE ME THE GOD DAMN DENIAL LETTER...............

Don't they realize we're going to be married with our without this FRIKIN STAMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who said you will get a denial letter? The successful petition for the visa is simply returned to the Dept. of State (NVC) with a recommendation that it be revoked. If your fiance was told this would happen, there is usually a reason given as to why the consulate is recommending revocation...meaning, of course, that they will not approve a visa for some reason or another, based on their findings. Their findings are kinda final

Do you honestly believe they tell you why? The only answer you will get is that they don't believe you are a real couple. And no, their findings are not final. We were denied and we fought it and won. I have yet to find out what those findings were. We were one of the lucky couples that had suspicions on what they thought, but it wasn't on the NOIR. I addressed it anyway in my rebuttal. So he is here now, their findings are a lot of times a load of #######.

I have seen where K-1 cases were reaffirmed, but I hear it is rare now. Can you get your representative to send them an email? If they can get a response saying that the petition has expired I am sure that will help.

[pushbrk 13,120]

Well since their findings are kinda final - and I kinda figured that - I want to start applying for the spousal visa - I'm going back home soon so we will get married - but we can't file any paperwork until this current case is closed officially with a denial letter - isn't that bullcrap?

PLUS - the NVC still hasn't received the case back yet - and it will either go to the CSC or VSC.

Does anyone know how I can get the case to be transferred to the Miami home office?

Welcome to the immigration process. No spouse visa is going to be issued either until you overcome whatever it is they are using as a reason to deny the fiance petition. The best practice in such cases is to hire a local attorney familiar with the Consulate and get things resolved in country quickly. If you're unwilling or unable to do that, there's no easy work-around.

[Munesh and Suz 0]

I think I'm ready to quit the fight. I just want a freakin denial letter now so I can start the K-3 process. Why must we wait for every freakin thing - six months to get a denial letter - #######? I'm just extremely frustrated right now and the congressman's office - FULL OF BULLCRAP! They don't understand immigration and the timeliness that things need to get done - all I keep hearing is 30 days is what we usually give for a response - MORE - #######? Does she not understand when I say WE DON'T HAVE 30 FRIKKEN DAYS???? JUST F'N GIVE ME THE GOD DAMN DENIAL LETTER...............

Don't they realize we're going to be married with our without this FRIKIN STAMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who said you will get a denial letter? The successful petition for the visa is simply returned to the Dept. of State (NVC) with a recommendation that it be revoked. If your fiance was told this would happen, there is usually a reason given as to why the consulate is recommending revocation...meaning, of course, that they will not approve a visa for some reason or another, based on their findings. Their findings are kinda final

Do you honestly believe they tell you why? The only answer you will get is that they don't believe you are a real couple. And no, their findings are not final. We were denied and we fought it and won. I have yet to find out what those findings were. We were one of the lucky couples that had suspicions on what they thought, but it wasn't on the NOIR. I addressed it anyway in my rebuttal. So he is here now, their findings are a lot of times a load of #######.

I have seen where K-1 cases were reaffirmed, but I hear it is rare now. Can you get your representative to send them an email? If they can get a response saying that the petition has expired I am sure that will help.

How did you guys do the rebuttal? I know they aren't going to tell me exactly what the reasons are but I do know they don't believe we have a valid realationship. I don't have the money to hire a lawyer. That's why I'm thinking to just wait it out and file for K-3.........The congressman's office is not being very helpful either

[pushbrk 13,120]

I think I'm ready to quit the fight. I just want a freakin denial letter now so I can start the K-3 process. Why must we wait for every freakin thing - six months to get a denial letter - #######? I'm just extremely frustrated right now and the congressman's office - FULL OF BULLCRAP! They don't understand immigration and the timeliness that things need to get done - all I keep hearing is 30 days is what we usually give for a response - MORE - #######? Does she not understand when I say WE DON'T HAVE 30 FRIKKEN DAYS???? JUST F'N GIVE ME THE GOD DAMN DENIAL LETTER...............

Don't they realize we're going to be married with our without this FRIKIN STAMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who said you will get a denial letter? The successful petition for the visa is simply returned to the Dept. of State (NVC) with a recommendation that it be revoked. If your fiance was told this would happen, there is usually a reason given as to why the consulate is recommending revocation...meaning, of course, that they will not approve a visa for some reason or another, based on their findings. Their findings are kinda final

Do you honestly believe they tell you why? The only answer you will get is that they don't believe you are a real couple. And no, their findings are not final. We were denied and we fought it and won. I have yet to find out what those findings were. We were one of the lucky couples that had suspicions on what they thought, but it wasn't on the NOIR. I addressed it anyway in my rebuttal. So he is here now, their findings are a lot of times a load of #######.

I have seen where K-1 cases were reaffirmed, but I hear it is rare now. Can you get your representative to send them an email? If they can get a response saying that the petition has expired I am sure that will help.

How did you guys do the rebuttal? I know they aren't going to tell me exactly what the reasons are but I do know they don't believe we have a valid realationship. I don't have the money to hire a lawyer. That's why I'm thinking to just wait it out and file for K-3.........The congressman's office is not being very helpful either

I suggest you use the money you'd spend on the plane ticket, marriage and I-130 filing fee to hire an attorney. Flying there and getting married, in and of itself is not necessarily going to change their mind about your bona fides. My best guess is you have a pretty strong clue why they aren't buying your relationship as bona fide. Do you have a plan to deal with it?

[Munesh and Suz 0]

I think I'm ready to quit the fight. I just want a freakin denial letter now so I can start the K-3 process. Why must we wait for every freakin thing - six months to get a denial letter - #######? I'm just extremely frustrated right now and the congressman's office - FULL OF BULLCRAP! They don't understand immigration and the timeliness that things need to get done - all I keep hearing is 30 days is what we usually give for a response - MORE - #######? Does she not understand when I say WE DON'T HAVE 30 FRIKKEN DAYS???? JUST F'N GIVE ME THE GOD DAMN DENIAL LETTER...............

Don't they realize we're going to be married with our without this FRIKIN STAMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who said you will get a denial letter? The successful petition for the visa is simply returned to the Dept. of State (NVC) with a recommendation that it be revoked. If your fiance was told this would happen, there is usually a reason given as to why the consulate is recommending revocation...meaning, of course, that they will not approve a visa for some reason or another, based on their findings. Their findings are kinda final

Do you honestly believe they tell you why? The only answer you will get is that they don't believe you are a real couple. And no, their findings are not final. We were denied and we fought it and won. I have yet to find out what those findings were. We were one of the lucky couples that had suspicions on what they thought, but it wasn't on the NOIR. I addressed it anyway in my rebuttal. So he is here now, their findings are a lot of times a load of #######.

I have seen where K-1 cases were reaffirmed, but I hear it is rare now. Can you get your representative to send them an email? If they can get a response saying that the petition has expired I am sure that will help.

How did you guys do the rebuttal? I know they aren't going to tell me exactly what the reasons are but I do know they don't believe we have a valid realationship. I don't have the money to hire a lawyer. That's why I'm thinking to just wait it out and file for K-3.........The congressman's office is not being very helpful either

I suggest you use the money you'd spend on the plane ticket, marriage and I-130 filing fee to hire an attorney. Flying there and getting married, in and of itself is not necessarily going to change their mind about your bona fides. My best guess is you have a pretty strong clue why they aren't buying your relationship as bona fide. Do you have a plan to deal with it?

I'm offended that you would even consider that I or WE know why they don't think we have a bona fide realationship. We don't have the luxury of doing online emails to each other or texting or messenger service but we do have the phone and I did present $2000 worth of phone bills as evidence which they didn't keep. We had cards that I sent to him - what else do they want? I've visited him numerous times - so what? And you - thanks for all you suggestions and I understand what you're saying but hiring a lawyer is not going to guarantee that he will get approved. And besides waiting it out - no I don't have a plan. I'm a single female living on my own and supporting myself. I don't have money coming to me just out of the blue.

[*JG* 2]

Pushbrk has a point and you should heed it. I know you don't want to hear it; but there is a reason why they deny you. That reason will not go away just cause you marry. And, contrary to popular belief, marrying is not the end all proof of relationship.

I've seen many people upset cause that ploy didn't work. Look into the reason for denial and fix it if you can.

Please stop and think really hard. I hope to save you lots of pain in the future by offering this advice.

I do wish you luck that it all turns out for you.

[belinda63 3,047]

Again, just because you are married does not prove a relationship. Married or engaged in and of itself means nothing except what type of visa you apply for, even having a child does not mean anything.

You should find out what the reason was for the denial and address this. I understand the being a single female and supporting yourself part as I am also. Perhaps you could hire a paralegal to send a letter to find out what the reason for denial was. Usually they can do the work at a reduced rate as the "law firm" and you won't have to hire them for the whole process. Then you can address the issue(s) for denial.

Repeat, getting married will not help the process or guarantee a visa.

[pushbrk 13,120]

I think I'm ready to quit the fight. I just want a freakin denial letter now so I can start the K-3 process. Why must we wait for every freakin thing - six months to get a denial letter - #######? I'm just extremely frustrated right now and the congressman's office - FULL OF BULLCRAP! They don't understand immigration and the timeliness that things need to get done - all I keep hearing is 30 days is what we usually give for a response - MORE - #######? Does she not understand when I say WE DON'T HAVE 30 FRIKKEN DAYS???? JUST F'N GIVE ME THE GOD DAMN DENIAL LETTER...............

Don't they realize we're going to be married with our without this FRIKIN STAMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who said you will get a denial letter? The successful petition for the visa is simply returned to the Dept. of State (NVC) with a recommendation that it be revoked. If your fiance was told this would happen, there is usually a reason given as to why the consulate is recommending revocation...meaning, of course, that they will not approve a visa for some reason or another, based on their findings. Their findings are kinda final

Do you honestly believe they tell you why? The only answer you will get is that they don't believe you are a real couple. And no, their findings are not final. We were denied and we fought it and won. I have yet to find out what those findings were. We were one of the lucky couples that had suspicions on what they thought, but it wasn't on the NOIR. I addressed it anyway in my rebuttal. So he is here now, their findings are a lot of times a load of #######.

I have seen where K-1 cases were reaffirmed, but I hear it is rare now. Can you get your representative to send them an email? If they can get a response saying that the petition has expired I am sure that will help.

How did you guys do the rebuttal? I know they aren't going to tell me exactly what the reasons are but I do know they don't believe we have a valid realationship. I don't have the money to hire a lawyer. That's why I'm thinking to just wait it out and file for K-3.........The congressman's office is not being very helpful either

I suggest you use the money you'd spend on the plane ticket, marriage and I-130 filing fee to hire an attorney. Flying there and getting married, in and of itself is not necessarily going to change their mind about your bona fides. My best guess is you have a pretty strong clue why they aren't buying your relationship as bona fide. Do you have a plan to deal with it?

I'm offended that you would even consider that I or WE know why they don't think we have a bona fide realationship. We don't have the luxury of doing online emails to each other or texting or messenger service but we do have the phone and I did present $2000 worth of phone bills as evidence which they didn't keep. We had cards that I sent to him - what else do they want? I've visited him numerous times - so what? And you - thanks for all you suggestions and I understand what you're saying but hiring a lawyer is not going to guarantee that he will get approved. And besides waiting it out - no I don't have a plan. I'm a single female living on my own and supporting myself. I don't have money coming to me just out of the blue.

I'm going on the assumption you can overcome whatever the CO suspects. Having a clue why the denial occured doesn't mean the CO was right or that your marriage was valid. It just gives you something to go on to formulate a plan. I'm on your side. That's why I'm telling you your plan to give up on the K1 and marry, is a bad plan. You really must focus on the problem. If something doesn't immediately come to mind, start searching through the details of the submissions and interview.

This is a time for thoughtful action and complete honesty with yourself. Declaring you can afford to travel to marry and file and I-130 at the same time you declare you can't afford an attorney is not intellectually honest. If success is what you want, you need to get that thinking cap on and tighten up on the flow of emotions.

Edited July 23, 2008 by pushbrk

[Munesh and Suz 0]

I think I'm ready to quit the fight. I just want a freakin denial letter now so I can start the K-3 process. Why must we wait for every freakin thing - six months to get a denial letter - #######? I'm just extremely frustrated right now and the congressman's office - FULL OF BULLCRAP! They don't understand immigration and the timeliness that things need to get done - all I keep hearing is 30 days is what we usually give for a response - MORE - #######? Does she not understand when I say WE DON'T HAVE 30 FRIKKEN DAYS???? JUST F'N GIVE ME THE GOD DAMN DENIAL LETTER...............

Don't they realize we're going to be married with our without this FRIKIN STAMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who said you will get a denial letter? The successful petition for the visa is simply returned to the Dept. of State (NVC) with a recommendation that it be revoked. If your fiance was told this would happen, there is usually a reason given as to why the consulate is recommending revocation...meaning, of course, that they will not approve a visa for some reason or another, based on their findings. Their findings are kinda final

Do you honestly believe they tell you why? The only answer you will get is that they don't believe you are a real couple. And no, their findings are not final. We were denied and we fought it and won. I have yet to find out what those findings were. We were one of the lucky couples that had suspicions on what they thought, but it wasn't on the NOIR. I addressed it anyway in my rebuttal. So he is here now, their findings are a lot of times a load of #######.

I have seen where K-1 cases were reaffirmed, but I hear it is rare now. Can you get your representative to send them an email? If they can get a response saying that the petition has expired I am sure that will help.

How did you guys do the rebuttal? I know they aren't going to tell me exactly what the reasons are but I do know they don't believe we have a valid realationship. I don't have the money to hire a lawyer. That's why I'm thinking to just wait it out and file for K-3.........The congressman's office is not being very helpful either

I suggest you use the money you'd spend on the plane ticket, marriage and I-130 filing fee to hire an attorney. Flying there and getting married, in and of itself is not necessarily going to change their mind about your bona fides. My best guess is you have a pretty strong clue why they aren't buying your relationship as bona fide. Do you have a plan to deal with it?

I'm offended that you would even consider that I or WE know why they don't think we have a bona fide realationship. We don't have the luxury of doing online emails to each other or texting or messenger service but we do have the phone and I did present $2000 worth of phone bills as evidence which they didn't keep. We had cards that I sent to him - what else do they want? I've visited him numerous times - so what? And you - thanks for all you suggestions and I understand what you're saying but hiring a lawyer is not going to guarantee that he will get approved. And besides waiting it out - no I don't have a plan. I'm a single female living on my own and supporting myself. I don't have money coming to me just out of the blue.

I'm going on the assumption you can overcome whatever the CO suspects. Having a clue why the denial occured doesn't mean the CO was right or that your marriage was valid. It just gives you something to go on to formulate a plan. I'm on your side. That's why I'm telling you your plan to give up on the K1 and marry, is a bad plan. You really must focus on the problem. If something doesn't immediately come to mind, start searching through the details of the submissions and interview.

This is a time for thoughtful action and complete honesty with yourself. Declaring you can afford to travel to marry and file and I-130 at the same time you declare you can't afford an attorney is not intellectually honest. If success is what you want, you need to get that thinking cap on and tighten up on the flow of emotions.

Yes sir.

[Munesh and Suz 0]

After all that, the lawyer told me to go get married and come back and file K-3. I am still trying to get the Petition Return Memo.

[sara..... 371]

i also agree getting married will not solve the issue that is one of the reasons perviz and i have decided not to try that route and both of us getting suck in india because of the problems we are having getting processed at this point most the time if u marry the problem is still there and will not go away........marraige dont make them believe u or make the journey have a positive out come........i think that everyone has given u very sound advise here sending happy thoughts and prayers ur way i know how frustrated u r

sara