I need help understanding something

[Nessa 23]

I'm sure some smart VJ member here can help me understanding this situation. The reason I started a thread about it is that I can't get the stup!d thing out of my mind and it's driving me crazy .

I had a problem with a paycheck. It said I worked 79.7 hours instead of 80. So I called the financial lady and she tried to explain me the deal. I didn't get it. I sat with my boss who also explained to me what happened, still didn't get it.

So here's the deal: We clock in then out to lunch, then back in, then out. One day I clocked in at 900 then I was out of the office for most part of the afternoon, when I came back I clocked out to lunch at 1515. Then since the girl that work in the front desk leaves at 1600 and I had to be at the front desk for the rest of the day, I clocked back in at 1600, cuz I was only able to have 45 min break. So not only they didn't pay me for those 15 min I worked, they took off my paycheck 15 min. I never wanted them to pay me for those 15 minutes, cuz I know we are obligated to have 1 hour break and they won't pay you if you take less than an hour.

So to make it simple:

clock in 9am

clock out for lunch 3:15 pm

clock back in 4 pm

clock out 6 pm

total hours working: 8:15. amount paid 7:45

financial lady + boss explanation: the system acknowledge that if you work 8 hours a day, you will have 1 hour break. So you clocked out at 3:15 and back in at 4, instead of 4:15, the system automatically takes off 15 min. I don't get it.

For me it makes no sense at all, but maybe it's just me being blonde. Anyone?

[Sassy1natl 0]

Sounds like your employer is in violation of some labor laws... They can't take time a full hour off for your lunch if you didn't actually take it.

[Peikko 1,575]

The problem appears to be a mechanical one of their system. It will not allow you to 'clock back in' before the hour is up between clocking out and in for 'lunch'. If you had clocked in at 4.15 and out at 6.15 you would have got your extra 15 mins. It does seem odd though that there is no override for this eventuality.

[Sassy1natl 0]

The only recourse you may have is to contact your local Dept. of Labor. and file a complaint.

[Saddle Bronc 124]

The problem appears to be a mechanical one of their system. It will not allow you to 'clock back in' before the hour is up between clocking out and in for 'lunch'. If you had clocked in at 4.15 and out at 6.15 you would have got your extra 15 mins. It does seem odd though that there is no override for this eventuality.

Probably deliberate--as the employers are being cheap***es. Edited July 22, 2008 by CherryXS

[Sassy1natl 0]

The problem lies wherein it is usually too costly to pursue and as soon as your employer gets wind of any complaint, you will be deemed problematic.

Edited July 22, 2008 by sassy1natl

[DairyFarmer 1]

Not really helping but I don't get the missing 15mins.

I understand the losing the mandatory hour but that is only 15, cause that has happened to me but the other no sense at all.

[Sassy1natl 0]

Timeclocks ususally work on a click system. That .3 that you were missing wasn't actually 30 minutes. .5 would be 30 minutes. So .3 was probably 20 minutes or so. If that makes sense.

Edited July 22, 2008 by sassy1natl

[Peikko 1,575]

I am my own clock at work. Does that mean my boss is or isn't a cheap #######?

[Nessa 23]

The problem appears to be a mechanical one of their system. It will not allow you to 'clock back in' before the hour is up between clocking out and in for 'lunch'. If you had clocked in at 4.15 and out at 6.15 you would have got your extra 15 mins. It does seem odd though that there is no override for this eventuality.

I don't wanna complain becauseI think it's a mechanical problem too, I just want to understand it.

[Sassy1natl 0]

The problem appears to be a mechanical one of their system. It will not allow you to 'clock back in' before the hour is up between clocking out and in for 'lunch'. If you had clocked in at 4.15 and out at 6.15 you would have got your extra 15 mins. It does seem odd though that there is no override for this eventuality.

I don't wanna complain becauseI think it's a mechanical problem too, I just want to understand it.

Who does the payroll? Do you have access to this person?

[Sassy1natl 0]

I am my own clock at work. Does that mean my boss is or isn't a cheap #######?

I have thought of reporting myself many times...lol

My benefits bite.

Edited July 22, 2008 by sassy1natl

[Peikko 1,575]

Not really helping but I don't get the missing 15mins.

I understand the losing the mandatory hour but that is only 15, cause that has happened to me but the other no sense at all.

The problem appears to be a mechanical one of their system. It will not allow you to 'clock back in' before the hour is up between clocking out and in for 'lunch'. If you had clocked in at 4.15 and out at 6.15 you would have got your extra 15 mins. It does seem odd though that there is no override for this eventuality.

I don't wanna complain becauseI think it's a mechanical problem too, I just want to understand it.

True, it's probably what the person said about 'clicks' rather than minutes. I see what you mean that you have the auto deduct for 30 minutes instead of 15 seemingly but if the minutes don't correspond to clicks *shrugs*. Probably a good idea not to take less than your hour break if this is going to happen!

[Mephys 2]

Yeah but shouldn't she be paid for 8 hours ? I understand the part where she lost 15 min because she clocked in before the lunch hour was over, but she still should be paid a full 8 hours, not 7h45 min..

[Sassy1natl 0]

Yeah but shouldn't she be paid for 8 hours ? I understand the part where she lost 15 min because she clocked in before the lunch hour was over, but she still should be paid a full 8 hours, not 7h45 min..

Yes. She should.