Surgery in Russia

[Korat 0]

Good friend of mine, her father has really bad kidney disease. She will not telling directly, but I think he requires kidney transplant. I know this lady for 5-1/2 years. Does anyone know about transplant in Russia if they can be done and waht is the procedure and maybe the cost of it?

[Bobalouie 0]

Yes, it can be done. First they hook up the bypass machine, then they cut thru the abdominal sheath, move some stuff out of the way and chop the bad kidney out. Then they put the good kidney in, hook it up, remove the bypass, check for bleeding, slosh your guts over the new kidney and sew you back up. This is, of course, assuming that you have found a viable candidate kidney.

You should probably just send them around $10,000 to start, followed by probably an additional $5000 about a month later. Wait two months, then blacklist them for being a scammer, but continue sending $500/mo for anti-rejection medication for the rest of their life.

Or you can settle now for a lump sum payment of $12,377.

Edited July 22, 2008 by Bobalouie

[Ana&D 0]

You might want to talk to doctors in Russia. This is US immigration-related forum!

Edited July 22, 2008 by Ana&D

[GiGii 4]

Others ask personal questions not related to immigration, so why can't he?

[mox 298]

Others ask personal questions not related to immigration, so why can't he?

Sock puppet much?

[GiGii 4]

I'm a puppet? From the posts, it seems she made a puppet out of you and pulled all your strings just the right way... until someone threatened a pic.

[Jolie Melusine 0]

Good friend of mine, her father has really bad kidney disease. She will not telling directly, but I think he requires kidney transplant. I know this lady for 5-1/2 years. Does anyone know about transplant in Russia if they can be done and waht is the procedure and maybe the cost of it?

Sounds fishy to me. Unfortunately, knowing somebody for 5 1/2 years is not a garantee this person is not a scam. I know story of a woman (40 y.o. ) whose younger sister (you do the math how long they knew each other) proposed to begin a small family business. Now younger sister is throwing money to the left anf to the right, poring buckets of s**t on her sister (she went to police! of course she's very "bad" now) while her older sister busting her a*s off to pay her debts she made to get money for their future "small company"

From my own experience I can say that scams disappear when you tell them that you personally contacted doctor (or who ever has to get the payment) and this person said that you can pay directly and your friends don't need to worry about money.

From what I heard about kidney transplants there is a long waiting list. You can get your transplant faster only if it's not good for other people who are closer to the beginning of the list and you are really lucky guy with immune system matching perfectly this transplant.

Before sending any money make search for hospitals performing transplant surgeries and try to contact them first. And only when you have informatiom from serious source you can talk to your friends about everything - transplant, hospital and money.

[Korat 0]

If I help with money, it will be directly to the doctors. She is trustworthy as the come. I know her and her family really well. I speak with almost every week and we are the best of friends and she has a good job and great employer.

I thought that someone might had something similar with a family member in Russia. She will not give anymore information. I spoke with some nurses in Yoshkar-Ola and they do not even have an artificial kidney machine to keep someone temporary alive. And they do not do any transplants.

Mox does not deserve that comment. Almost everyone has a scam story.

[Brad and Vika 129]

If I help with money, it will be directly to the doctors. She is trustworthy as the come. I know her and her family really well. I speak with almost every week and we are the best of friends and she has a good job and great employer.

I thought that someone might had something similar with a family member in Russia. She will not give anymore information. I spoke with some nurses in Yoshkar-Ola and they do not even have an artificial kidney machine to keep someone temporary alive. And they do not do any transplants.

Mox does not deserve that comment. Almost everyone has a scam story.

Not sure what comment you mean, but you were very critical of Mox early on (called him a fool as I recall in your first post). That is why you are catching flak.

[Korat 0]

If I help with money, it will be directly to the doctors. She is trustworthy as the come. I know her and her family really well. I speak with almost every week and we are the best of friends and she has a good job and great employer.

I thought that someone might had something similar with a family member in Russia. She will not give anymore information. I spoke with some nurses in Yoshkar-Ola and they do not even have an artificial kidney machine to keep someone temporary alive. And they do not do any transplants.

Mox does not deserve that comment. Almost everyone has a scam story.

Not sure what comment you mean, but you were very critical of Mox early on (called him a fool as I recall in your first post). That is why you are catching flak.

I apologized for that. I tried to edit, but could not

[slim 1,530]

If I help with money, it will be directly to the doctors. She is trustworthy as the come. I know her and her family really well. I speak with almost every week and we are the best of friends and she has a good job and great employer.

I thought that someone might had something similar with a family member in Russia. She will not give anymore information. I spoke with some nurses in Yoshkar-Ola and they do not even have an artificial kidney machine to keep someone temporary alive. And they do not do any transplants.

Mox does not deserve that comment. Almost everyone has a scam story.

There's a woman in Y-O, works at a hospital, can't recall her name........ anyway, maybe you could talk to the rest of the hospital staff since you know them well enough to get them to take pictures of this woman. They should be able to point you in the right direction as far as transplants or no transplants go.

Whatever you do, don't send money to this woman or her doctors, wouldn't want to see her turn into a party girl.

Another idea would be since Canada has such easy access and free health care, you could "marry" this girl and have her father worked on there for free! Everybody wins!

And you're right, everyone has a scam story. I once heard one about a guy that teamed up with another guy and turned a girl into a gold-digging party girl who only used guys for money even after she was impregnated by a different guy. Well, the original guy started adding her to all these scammer/blacklist sites and then even had the low standards as to follow the fiance over to another forum and start talking rubbish there as well. He didn't just make the point and then disappear, he stuck around in a futile attempt to add fuel to the fire, all the while just making himself look more and more like a jilted ex-lover reduced to making empty accusations on internet forums. I'm not sure if they were true or not, and really I don't care because anyone that would do something like that is a douche. Either man up and "click on a new one" (and subsequently let the old one go) or have the nuts to say, "it didn't work out for me and her, but good luck to you."

I still haven't heard a dollar amount in that story (or any story for that matter) but I'm wondering just how much money one would have to shell out to be scouring the internet for people to dis several years later. I don't want to just make an amount up, but it would have to be pretty high to be wasting years of one's life for something so juvenile. Several thousands, if not tens of thousands, at least. Care to ballpark it for me, anyone?

[Korat 0]

If I help with money, it will be directly to the doctors. She is trustworthy as the come. I know her and her family really well. I speak with almost every week and we are the best of friends and she has a good job and great employer.

I thought that someone might had something similar with a family member in Russia. She will not give anymore information. I spoke with some nurses in Yoshkar-Ola and they do not even have an artificial kidney machine to keep someone temporary alive. And they do not do any transplants.

Mox does not deserve that comment. Almost everyone has a scam story.

There's a woman in Y-O, works at a hospital, can't recall her name........ anyway, maybe you could talk to the rest of the hospital staff since you know them well enough to get them to take pictures of this woman. They should be able to point you in the right direction as far as transplants or no transplants go.

Whatever you do, don't send money to this woman or her doctors, wouldn't want to see her turn into a party girl.

Another idea would be since Canada has such easy access and free health care, you could "marry" this girl and have her father worked on there for free! Everybody wins!

And you're right, everyone has a scam story. I once heard one about a guy that teamed up with another guy and turned a girl into a gold-digging party girl who only used guys for money even after she was impregnated by a different guy. Well, the original guy started adding her to all these scammer/blacklist sites and then even had the low standards as to follow the fiance over to another forum and start talking rubbish there as well. He didn't just make the point and then disappear, he stuck around in a futile attempt to add fuel to the fire, all the while just making himself look more and more like a jilted ex-lover reduced to making empty accusations on internet forums. I'm not sure if they were true or not, and really I don't care because anyone that would do something like that is a douche. Either man up and "click on a new one" (and subsequently let the old one go) or have the nuts to say, "it didn't work out for me and her, but good luck to you."

I still haven't heard a dollar amount in that story (or any story for that matter) but I'm wondering just how much money one would have to shell out to be scouring the internet for people to dis several years later. I don't want to just make an amount up, but it would have to be pretty high to be wasting years of one's life for something so juvenile. Several thousands, if not tens of thousands, at least. Care to ballpark it for me, anyone?

You are such angry man.

If I never called N, then M would be still giving money to this lady. She was not going to release him. He was in total infatuation with her and she want only money. I came back from UKraine when I was told about the situation. I emailed him and told the story. Lies was the response. So I intervened and called her and threatened her to expose her via a photograph so she would release him from harm. She did, but refused to state the situation to M. She want to leave a chance to exploit in the future. I know this person for 5 years. Once the money dries up, she will forget about scamming in the future.

I am not bothering to replying to your hatemail anymore.

[Brad and Vika 129]

If I help with money, it will be directly to the doctors. She is trustworthy as the come. I know her and her family really well. I speak with almost every week and we are the best of friends and she has a good job and great employer.

I thought that someone might had something similar with a family member in Russia. She will not give anymore information. I spoke with some nurses in Yoshkar-Ola and they do not even have an artificial kidney machine to keep someone temporary alive. And they do not do any transplants.

Mox does not deserve that comment. Almost everyone has a scam story.

There's a woman in Y-O, works at a hospital, can't recall her name........ anyway, maybe you could talk to the rest of the hospital staff since you know them well enough to get them to take pictures of this woman. They should be able to point you in the right direction as far as transplants or no transplants go.

Whatever you do, don't send money to this woman or her doctors, wouldn't want to see her turn into a party girl.

Another idea would be since Canada has such easy access and free health care, you could "marry" this girl and have her father worked on there for free! Everybody wins!

And you're right, everyone has a scam story. I once heard one about a guy that teamed up with another guy and turned a girl into a gold-digging party girl who only used guys for money even after she was impregnated by a different guy. Well, the original guy started adding her to all these scammer/blacklist sites and then even had the low standards as to follow the fiance over to another forum and start talking rubbish there as well. He didn't just make the point and then disappear, he stuck around in a futile attempt to add fuel to the fire, all the while just making himself look more and more like a jilted ex-lover reduced to making empty accusations on internet forums. I'm not sure if they were true or not, and really I don't care because anyone that would do something like that is a douche. Either man up and "click on a new one" (and subsequently let the old one go) or have the nuts to say, "it didn't work out for me and her, but good luck to you."

I still haven't heard a dollar amount in that story (or any story for that matter) but I'm wondering just how much money one would have to shell out to be scouring the internet for people to dis several years later. I don't want to just make an amount up, but it would have to be pretty high to be wasting years of one's life for something so juvenile. Several thousands, if not tens of thousands, at least. Care to ballpark it for me, anyone?

You are such angry man.

If I never called N, then M would be still giving money to this lady. She was not going to release him. He was in total infatuation with her and she want only money. I came back from UKraine when I was told about the situation. I emailed him and told the story. Lies was the response. So I intervened and called her and threatened her to expose her via a photograph so she would release him from harm. She did, but refused to state the situation to M. She want to leave a chance to exploit in the future. I know this person for 5 years. Once the money dries up, she will forget about scamming in the future.

I am not bothering to replying to your hatemail anymore.

Your accent has returned Korat, or are you drinking again. What do you do for a living?

[slim 1,530]

If I help with money, it will be directly to the doctors. She is trustworthy as the come. I know her and her family really well. I speak with almost every week and we are the best of friends and she has a good job and great employer.

I thought that someone might had something similar with a family member in Russia. She will not give anymore information. I spoke with some nurses in Yoshkar-Ola and they do not even have an artificial kidney machine to keep someone temporary alive. And they do not do any transplants.

Mox does not deserve that comment. Almost everyone has a scam story.

There's a woman in Y-O, works at a hospital, can't recall her name........ anyway, maybe you could talk to the rest of the hospital staff since you know them well enough to get them to take pictures of this woman. They should be able to point you in the right direction as far as transplants or no transplants go.

Whatever you do, don't send money to this woman or her doctors, wouldn't want to see her turn into a party girl.

Another idea would be since Canada has such easy access and free health care, you could "marry" this girl and have her father worked on there for free! Everybody wins!

And you're right, everyone has a scam story. I once heard one about a guy that teamed up with another guy and turned a girl into a gold-digging party girl who only used guys for money even after she was impregnated by a different guy. Well, the original guy started adding her to all these scammer/blacklist sites and then even had the low standards as to follow the fiance over to another forum and start talking rubbish there as well. He didn't just make the point and then disappear, he stuck around in a futile attempt to add fuel to the fire, all the while just making himself look more and more like a jilted ex-lover reduced to making empty accusations on internet forums. I'm not sure if they were true or not, and really I don't care because anyone that would do something like that is a douche. Either man up and "click on a new one" (and subsequently let the old one go) or have the nuts to say, "it didn't work out for me and her, but good luck to you."

I still haven't heard a dollar amount in that story (or any story for that matter) but I'm wondering just how much money one would have to shell out to be scouring the internet for people to dis several years later. I don't want to just make an amount up, but it would have to be pretty high to be wasting years of one's life for something so juvenile. Several thousands, if not tens of thousands, at least. Care to ballpark it for me, anyone?

You are such angry man.

If I never called N, then M would be still giving money to this lady. She was not going to release him. He was in total infatuation with her and she want only money. I came back from UKraine when I was told about the situation. I emailed him and told the story. Lies was the response. So I intervened and called her and threatened her to expose her via a photograph so she would release him from harm. She did, but refused to state the situation to M. She want to leave a chance to exploit in the future. I know this person for 5 years. Once the money dries up, she will forget about scamming in the future.

I am not bothering to replying to your hatemail anymore.

Wow! So really, it was you that saved M from the grip of this horrible monster, N, that you and R created together, five years ago? (This monster is not to be confused with the trustworthy 5 1/2 years known, papa needs a kidney woman, right?) My goodness! I should be thanking you too!

And now the truth is coming out. Truth that you had to fly home from Ukraine in order to send an e-mail to M. (Don't have e-mail in Ukraine, I guess?) Then, you single-handedly spared M by blackmailing your monster with threats of photos?

I think maybe now I get it. You didn't come here looking to slander M or N, but moreover, to get a simple "thank you" that's long overdue. Well, here it is:

Thank You.

I'm not spewing out hatemail here or even angered by what you're typing on this forum. I am, however, perturbed by your hypocrisy. Until you can tell us the real reason you're doing this I will continue to "debate" the authenticity of your posts.

[Korat 0]

If I help with money, it will be directly to the doctors. She is trustworthy as the come. I know her and her family really well. I speak with almost every week and we are the best of friends and she has a good job and great employer.

I thought that someone might had something similar with a family member in Russia. She will not give anymore information. I spoke with some nurses in Yoshkar-Ola and they do not even have an artificial kidney machine to keep someone temporary alive. And they do not do any transplants.

Mox does not deserve that comment. Almost everyone has a scam story.

There's a woman in Y-O, works at a hospital, can't recall her name........ anyway, maybe you could talk to the rest of the hospital staff since you know them well enough to get them to take pictures of this woman. They should be able to point you in the right direction as far as transplants or no transplants go.

Whatever you do, don't send money to this woman or her doctors, wouldn't want to see her turn into a party girl.

Another idea would be since Canada has such easy access and free health care, you could "marry" this girl and have her father worked on there for free! Everybody wins!

And you're right, everyone has a scam story. I once heard one about a guy that teamed up with another guy and turned a girl into a gold-digging party girl who only used guys for money even after she was impregnated by a different guy. Well, the original guy started adding her to all these scammer/blacklist sites and then even had the low standards as to follow the fiance over to another forum and start talking rubbish there as well. He didn't just make the point and then disappear, he stuck around in a futile attempt to add fuel to the fire, all the while just making himself look more and more like a jilted ex-lover reduced to making empty accusations on internet forums. I'm not sure if they were true or not, and really I don't care because anyone that would do something like that is a douche. Either man up and "click on a new one" (and subsequently let the old one go) or have the nuts to say, "it didn't work out for me and her, but good luck to you."

I still haven't heard a dollar amount in that story (or any story for that matter) but I'm wondering just how much money one would have to shell out to be scouring the internet for people to dis several years later. I don't want to just make an amount up, but it would have to be pretty high to be wasting years of one's life for something so juvenile. Several thousands, if not tens of thousands, at least. Care to ballpark it for me, anyone?

You are such angry man.

If I never called N, then M would be still giving money to this lady. She was not going to release him. He was in total infatuation with her and she want only money. I came back from UKraine when I was told about the situation. I emailed him and told the story. Lies was the response. So I intervened and called her and threatened her to expose her via a photograph so she would release him from harm. She did, but refused to state the situation to M. She want to leave a chance to exploit in the future. I know this person for 5 years. Once the money dries up, she will forget about scamming in the future.

I am not bothering to replying to your hatemail anymore.

Wow! So really, it was you that saved M from the grip of this horrible monster, N, that you and R created together, five years ago? (This monster is not to be confused with the trustworthy 5 1/2 years known, papa needs a kidney woman, right?) My goodness! I should be thanking you too!

And now the truth is coming out. Truth that you had to fly home from Ukraine in order to send an e-mail to M. (Don't have e-mail in Ukraine, I guess?) Then, you single-handedly spared M by blackmailing your monster with threats of photos?

I think maybe now I get it. You didn't come here looking to slander M or N, but moreover, to get a simple "thank you" that's long overdue. Well, here it is:

Thank You.

I'm not spewing out hatemail here or even angered by what you're typing on this forum. I am, however, perturbed by your hypocrisy. Until you can tell us the real reason you're doing this I will continue to "debate" the authenticity of your posts.

Common when you actually find a contradiction, then point it out. But instead you spew hate and angst.

N was the one who scammed M, not me. N was the one who told the whole hospital in YO that she was only going for a trip. N was the one who got pregnant by another man and yet still asked M for money.

But hey, I am the villain here, because you and your friend M have hurt feeling that his fantasy fiancee never cared for him and only wanted to use him for money and trip to California.

Those are facts and you have nothing.