Illegal immigrant gives birth in custody with one leg cuffed to her bed

[Nasturtium 500]

Was this woman drunk? Or is that also assumed that her "careless driving" must be the result of drink driving studies show that "those people" won't get behind the wheel without first downing a half bottle of tequila?

it just mentions that she was pulled over for routine traffic violation and when asked to show her license she told the officer she didn't have one.. and instead of just giving her a citation he arrested her...

because it is illegal to drive with out a license

You don't need to be a citizen or even legal to get a DL in all states, just as an aside.

Edited July 22, 2008 by julianna

[Marilyn. 340]

geez louise, yes, we know people are killed all the time by drunk drivers... but you are saying that Hispanics celebrate when people drive drunk...

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Was this woman drunk? Or is that also assumed that her "careless driving" must be the result of drink driving studies show that "those people" won't get behind the wheel without first downing a half bottle of tequila?

it just mentions that she was pulled over for routine traffic violation and when asked to show her license she told the officer she didn't have one.. and instead of just giving her a citation he arrested her...

because it is illegal to drive with out a license

She was stopped on July 3 in her husband’s pickup truck by a police officer from Berry Hill, a Nashville suburb, initially for “careless driving.†After Mrs. Villegas told the officer she did not have a license, he did not issue a ticket but arrested her instead. Elliott Ozment, Mrs. Villegas’s lawyer, said driving without a license is a misdemeanor in Tennessee that police officers generally handle with a citation, not an arrest.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/20/us/20immig.html

Was this woman drunk? Or is that also assumed that her "careless driving" must be the result of drink driving studies show that "those people" won't get behind the wheel without first downing a half bottle of tequila?

it just mentions that she was pulled over for routine traffic violation and when asked to show her license she told the officer she didn't have one.. and instead of just giving her a citation he arrested her...

because it is illegal to drive with out a license

You don't need to be a citizen or even legal to get a DL in all states.

besides that fact that driving without a license in Tennessee is just a misdemeanor....

Edited July 22, 2008 by *Marilyn*

[Heracles 417]

Was this woman drunk? Or is it to be assumed that her "careless driving" must be the result of drink driving - because studies show that "those people" won't get behind the wheel without first downing a half bottle of tequila?

For all we know she could have been traveling at 90. Careless driving can and will lead to deaths. If she had crashed and killed her baby while doing 90 I am sure you would have nothing to say. AJ would not be concerned / 'outraged' about the situation then.

[Peikko 1,575]

BY, you arguments are illogical not inconsistant. We can't accuse you of inconsistancy, ever.

PH you cannot be that stupid. I don't agree with 98% of you posts so to me your arguments are illogical. Do you get the point or not..

Crikey, you can get more illogical. Well done BY, I wouldn't have believed it was possible but you managed it.

For clarity, should it be required, I do not think your arguments are illogical BECAUSE I don't agree with them. Ho hum.

[Heracles 417]

besides that fact that driving without a license in Tennessee is just a misdemeanor....

The fact is she was pulled over for careless driving. And then later stated she did not have a license.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

They can and they will - her having a baby who is a US citizen will not prevent her from being deported.

and the baby goes to mexico too? they done send US citizens out of the country. Why do you think they want to have their babies here ?????

It doesn't say - but presumably her husband must be a USC, otherwise he'd be up for deportation as well.

And it does not suggest otherwise. So he could be an illegal immigrant.

He could be - sure. As I said - I would imagine that if he were the whole family would be up for eviction.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Was this woman drunk? Or is it to be assumed that her "careless driving" must be the result of drink driving - because studies show that "those people" won't get behind the wheel without first downing a half bottle of tequila?

For all we know she could have been traveling at 90. Careless driving can and will lead to deaths. If she had crashed and killed her baby while doing 90 I am sure you would have nothing to say. AJ would not be concerned / 'outraged' about the situation then.

Of course not. I loves me a dead baby.

[Heracles 417]

Crikey, you can get more illogical. Well done BY, I wouldn't have believed it was possible but you managed it.

For clarity, should it be required, I do not think your arguments are illogical BECAUSE I don't agree with them. Ho hum.

Great. So then show me where exactly I am illogical in this thread.

[Marilyn. 340]

Was this woman drunk? Or is it to be assumed that her "careless driving" must be the result of drink driving - because studies show that "those people" won't get behind the wheel without first downing a half bottle of tequila?

For all we know she could have been traveling at 90. Careless driving can and will lead to deaths. If she had crashed and killed her baby while doing 90 I am sure you would have nothing to say. AJ would not be concerned / 'outraged' about the situation then.

I don't think they would have used the term "routine traffic violation" for going 90.... she was arrested for not having a license not for the traffic violation...

[indianheart 2]

besides that fact that driving without a license in Tennessee is just a misdemeanor....

The fact is she was pulled over for careless driving. And then later stated she did not have a license.

I agree sufficient reason to arrest...could have been drunk and wouldnt know until tested.

[Peikko 1,575]

They can and they will - her having a baby who is a US citizen will not prevent her from being deported.

and the baby goes to mexico too? they done send US citizens out of the country. Why do you think they want to have their babies here ?????

Yes, the baby goes too unless the mother decided to place the baby with someone in the US who is a legal citizen. This has happened many times before and it will happen many times again.

[Heracles 417]

They can and they will - her having a baby who is a US citizen will not prevent her from being deported.

and the baby goes to mexico too? they done send US citizens out of the country. Why do you think they want to have their babies here ?????

It doesn't say - but presumably her husband must be a USC, otherwise he'd be up for deportation as well.

And it does not suggest otherwise. So he could be an illegal immigrant.

He could be - sure. As I said - I would imagine that if he were the whole family would be up for eviction.

Well we do not know that is the point. Maybe the police are looking for him.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Was this woman drunk? Or is it to be assumed that her "careless driving" must be the result of drink driving - because studies show that "those people" won't get behind the wheel without first downing a half bottle of tequila?

For all we know she could have been traveling at 90. Careless driving can and will lead to deaths. If she had crashed and killed her baby while doing 90 I am sure you would have nothing to say. AJ would not be concerned / 'outraged' about the situation then.

You still fail to recognise that it still doesn't justify ankle-chaining a heavily pregnant woman going into labour. Noone is justifying the woman's "illegalness" or her traffic stop or anything associated with her immigration status or choices.

[Heracles 417]

Marilyn did you bother reading the article I posted..

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...t&p=2036460

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

You still fail to recognise that it still doesn't justify ankle-chaining a heavily pregnant woman going into labour. Noone is justifying the woman's "illegalness" or her traffic stop or anything associated with her immigration status or choices.

Exactly.