New Theories Urgently Needed

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

http://www.prisonplanet.com/Pages/230904_whistleblowers.html

I hope this will satisfy you.

This is a known conspiracy theorists website you quote there.

Prisonplanet.com

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Prisonplanet.com is a web site run by journalist Alex Jones and maintained by Paul Joseph Watson. Launched in June 2001, the site features news, audio and video covering various alleged government conspiracies and coverups, including the official theory of the September 11th terrorist attacks, the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, and the 1995 Oklahoma city bombing. It claims to expose the New World Order, asserting that there are concentration camps being constructed in the U.S. to house anyone that is considered a threat, and that martial law will be declared by the government in response to crises such as terrorism, natural disasters on a national scale (such as a major earthquake or tsunami), and civil disturbances.

Oh, I get it: Wikipedia is part of the conspiracy...

Thanks for playing, though.

[Fuzzness 2]

it is entirely feasable that NORAD was totally not prepared for the events. decisions were not made quickly enough.

[yabasta 0]

I was waiting for you to attack the source. The news on this site comes from various mainstream media for the most part. You wanted names of whistleblowers i gave you the best resource for such a list i could google. If you do not like the messenger then i suggest you do as ALex himself says and do your own research. The whistle has been blown by many. You can find these whistleblowers on other news sources if you don`t like that one.

I didn`t make any claims about wikipedia so i would appreciate it if you don`t start trying to put words in my mouth. Your attack of me would be a waste of your time and mine. Thanks.

it is entirely feasable that NORAD was totally not prepared for the events. decisions were not made quickly enough.

Maybe it is but the fact is firstly that they had plenty of warning certainly for the Pentagon attack. They would know as soon as a Jet went off course i believe. The reason it would seem was that the drills caused the confusion and perhaps enabled the attack. As fo rthe president himself havign to give the order that sounds totally crazy.

http://www.norad.mil/about_us.htm

[faith 0]

I was waiting for you to attack the source. The news on this site comes from various mainstream media for the most part. You wanted names of whistleblowers i gave you the best resource for such a list i could google. If you do not like the messenger then i suggest you do as ALex himself says and do your own research. The whistle has been blown by many. You can find these whistleblowers on other news sources if you don`t like that one.

I didn`t make any claims about wikipedia so i would appreciate it if you don`t start trying to put words in my mouth. Your attack of me would be a waste of your time and mine. Thanks.

it is entirely feasable that NORAD was totally not prepared for the events. decisions were not made quickly enough.

Maybe it is but the fact is firstly that they had plenty of warning certainly for the Pentagon attack. They would know as soon as a Jet went off course i believe. The reason it would seem was that the drills caused the confusion and perhaps enabled the attack. As fo rthe president himself havign to give the order that sounds totally crazy.

http://www.norad.mil/about_us.htm

that sounds totally crazy to you? Norad doesn't have the authority to make that decision about a commercial jet liner. That is a fact. And incidentally, Norad wouldnt' have had anything to do with it anyway. It was our military jets that were scrambled to take care of the rogue airplanes. And that order must come from the commander in chief, in other words.. the president.

[sukie175 0]

Faith you are wasting your breath on this 'believer', let him dream

[Ban Hammer 13,342]

I said a lot not all or most. I also stated that the job itself attracts an element of violence. What are your friends reasons or excuses for joining the armed forces? To meet people? To make enough money to go to school? To get out of *insert boring town name*? Sure some of them might have degrees and ###### but a degree is not how i personally measure intellect. Plus again i am not saying ALL are dumb i am just saying that there are a lot of poor uneducated people in the army because that is how the army works. Just watch the ARMY adverts and see how they try to appeal to people.

The pioneers of a warless world are the youth who refuse military service.

-Albert Einstein

a lot means just that - not a minority but a majority - and it's insulting to those defending america to be refered to as mental midgets. "I also stated that the job itself attracts an element of violence." no kidding - it's not the boy scouts! when people shoot at you, you tend to shoot back. as for why some joined, that's an individual's choice and has no bearing on this topic. i will assure you that i never met any who joined the military just so they could kill people. you seem bent on painting the military in an unfavorable light as best you can. furthermore, some of the smartest people i've met were in the military. i don't know where you have been meeting the ones you speak of, if at all, or if you are just speaking from rectal defilade. as for there being "a lot of poor uneducated people in the army because that is how the army works" is again another example of an asinine statement. quit while you are behind.

[crashandcari 0]

Faith... I also think you are wasting your time.. Those of us who were in the middle of it all that day know exactly what happened... Bollux to everyone who doesn't believe...

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I was waiting for you to attack the source. The news on this site comes from various mainstream media for the most part. You wanted names of whistleblowers i gave you the best resource for such a list i could google.

Okay, I googled and can't come up with any mainstream media link that would talk about any one insider that blew the whistle on the alleged 9/11 conspiracy. Just one that had direct knowledge and that came out saying, here, this is how it went down. The only one's I can see are the caliber that you offered. Wonder why that is. Well, actually, I don't.

[sukie175 0]

Faith... I also think you are wasting your time.. Those of us who were in the middle of it all that day know exactly what happened... Bollux to everyone who doesn't believe...

Nuff said

[yabasta 0]

a lot means just that - not a minority but a majority - and it's insulting to those defending america to be refered to as mental midgets. "I also stated that the job itself attracts an element of violence." no kidding - it's not the boy scouts! when people shoot at you, you tend to shoot back. as for why some joined, that's an individual's choice and has no bearing on this topic. i will assure you that i never met any who joined the military just so they could kill people. you seem bent on painting the military in an unfavorable light as best you can. furthermore, some of the smartest people i've met were in the military. i don't know where you have been meeting the ones you speak of, if at all, or if you are just speaking from rectal defilade. as for there being "a lot of poor uneducated people in the army because that is how the army works" is again another example of an asinine statement. quit while you are behind.

no the term a lot does not mean a majority. You are misreading what i say it would seem based on your lack of brains although i am only jestign as i am sure you have a reasonable brain. Also defending is fine but when was the last time that was the case for the U.S. military? It is insulting to be referred to as mental midgets? Who did i refer to as a mental midget? I didn`t use that term for one and i did not label all for seconds. If you insist on misreading that is up to you but if you won`t even debate on the words i used then you might aswell just say that i insulted your momma or something. Why hold back if you are making ###### up?

Also i do not need to paint the military in a bad light as they do that themselves, i am smart enough to realise how that comes about and i don`t blame them so much as i blame the system that made them.

The basic army is low pay but seen as a good income correct? a good job that most people can sign up for. The army will make a man out of you right? Give you the chance to travel etc. These are the kind of things the army sells. Be the best? Be superior. The kind of superiority you are suggesting you have over me for example. You can say it is asinine but it is just that you disagree with me. The army has recruiters and spends a ###### load of money on getting people signed up. This is how the army works. Everytiem there is a war there are new vacancies and witht he US wars of aggression comes the need for lots of new canon fodder. Yes cannon fodder. If you were smart you would see how the war pigs view you guys.

Faith... I also think you are wasting your time.. Those of us who were in the middle of it all that day know exactly what happened... Bollux to everyone who doesn't believe...

Nuff said

Yes you have said enough both of you. Sayign you were there doesn`t explain how 110 floored steel building came down when they were designed to take such hits from 707`s. Ignore the facts and physics all you like but don`t look down your nose just because you were there when it happened.

I was waiting for you to attack the source. The news on this site comes from various mainstream media for the most part. You wanted names of whistleblowers i gave you the best resource for such a list i could google.

Okay, I googled and can't come up with any mainstream media link that would talk about any one insider that blew the whistle on the alleged 9/11 conspiracy. Just one that had direct knowledge and that came out saying, here, this is how it went down. The only one's I can see are the caliber that you offered. Wonder why that is. Well, actually, I don't.

you are not able to find aything on google or just not what you wanted?

What exactly are you after? a signed confession?

how about operation northwoods? I know it is not exactly a signed confession but it proves such plans are thought up.

[Fuzzness 2]

Yes you have said enough both of you. Sayign you were there doesn`t explain how 110 floored steel building came down when they were designed to take such hits from 707`s. Ignore the facts and physics all you like but don`t look down your nose just because you were there when it happened.

to their defense, I must say that a 767 is a much larger aircraft than a 707

[Ban Hammer 13,342]

no the term a lot does not mean a majority. You are misreading what i say it would seem based on your lack of brains although i am only jestign as i am sure you have a reasonable brain. Also defending is fine but when was the last time that was the case for the U.S. military? It is insulting to be referred to as mental midgets? Who did i refer to as a mental midget? I didn`t use that term for one and i did not label all for seconds. If you insist on misreading that is up to you but if you won`t even debate on the words i used then you might aswell just say that i insulted your momma or something. Why hold back if you are making ###### up?

Also i do not need to paint the military in a bad light as they do that themselves, i am smart enough to realise how that comes about and i don`t blame them so much as i blame the system that made them.

The basic army is low pay but seen as a good income correct? a good job that most people can sign up for. The army will make a man out of you right? Give you the chance to travel etc. These are the kind of things the army sells. Be the best? Be superior. The kind of superiority you are suggesting you have over me for example. You can say it is asinine but it is just that you disagree with me. The army has recruiters and spends a ###### load of money on getting people signed up. This is how the army works. Everytiem there is a war there are new vacancies and witht he US wars of aggression comes the need for lots of new canon fodder. Yes cannon fodder. If you were smart you would see how the war pigs view you guys.

1. what you are saying essentially is that the military is full of stupid people. that offends me. a lot means Adv. 1. a lot - to a very great degree or extent. i rest my case on that part of this.

2. the comment of mental midget is just a recap of what you have been saying. nothing more, nothing less.

3. it's obvious that you've never served your country, which i presume to be america. and i consider that you've never served to be a blessing in disguise.

4. basic army pay is low. just as any other job. but what you don't see is the benefits of health and dental. if such is taken into account the average new recruit just one month in is making far more than the average burger flipper.

5. don't presume to educate me about how the military works. it's apparent you know zilch about such.

ps - there are always vacancies in the military, and it does not occur just due to war. do some research.

[yabasta 0]

Not that much larger. The designer said it should withstand a few 707`s and the fuel is supposedly what brought down the tower despite very little fire that didn`t burn for very long at all and the speed that they came down. Plus is it not odd that the tower hit first fell last?

[sukie175 0]

Fellow VJ'ers - you can't win here!!!

BACK AWAY FROM THIS THREAD SLOWLY PLEASE

[Fuzzness 2]

Not that much larger. The designer said it should withstand a few 707`s and the fuel is supposedly what brought down the tower despite very little fire that didn`t burn for very long at all and the speed that they came down. Plus is it not odd that the tower hit first fell last?

where did you read that? i'd like to know. and yes a 767 is quite a bit larger. a 767 is able to cruise at a higher speed, so dont you think they are made stronger? a 767 could penetrate further than a 707.