New Theories Urgently Needed

[yabasta 0]

Wekll firstly i didn`t say a lot of what you seem to claim i said. For instance i never implied your friends friend was in on it and i have not read any of your threads apart from the one where you accused me of shoving things down the victims throats.

I never claimed that you had mentioned united 93. Not all my post was directed at you. Cloning technology exists and has been reported by the mainstream media. Maybe you missed the report. So why is it reaching to suggest that such a plot existed?

I did not claim Bush was responsible for 9/11 because he can`t even strign a sentence together. He is not behind anything. I am pretty sure that he is simply the guy wearing the ronald mcdonald suit and not the man on the board or even cooking the burgers.

Again you simply insult me with name calling and that shows your argument is obviously weak.

Here is some evidence for you.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/natio...arkin020199.htm

[yabasta 0]

The most scary thing about this thread is the fact that some of the people partaking in it are getting ready to mate.

Yikes!

Just to clarify your vague statement. Are you suggesting that people who think differently to you should not have children?

[dalegg 143]

Assuming the world trade center did NOT collapse because of the airplanes that hit it, meaning there were either bombs in the planes or bombs in the world trade center.

Assuming it was not the passenger airline but a missle that hit the Pentagon and the people from that airplane died with the passengers of flight 93 after being diverted from their own plane on area 51 somewhere.

Why? We needed a good excuse to attack Afghanastan? This was all just the beginning of an elaborate plan to build a case to go to war in Iraq? Any ideas about the point behind having 9/11 happen in some other way than we have been led to believe it did?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

1) The Bush administrations (in fact almost all government's are broadly incompetant in some way or other. Its unlikely in the extreme that a massive secret cover-up involving so many levels of government and law enforcement would be successful. The very idea, actually gives the government more credit than it is due.

2) 9/11 was a disaster milestone. To my knowledge no-one has ever attempted an experiment in which a fully laden jet liner is flown at full speed into an office building. Under such conditions how can anyone know what would happen...?

Quibbling over the facts in this case is a bit like finding a beheaded corpse with an axe beside it, and thinking that the person was killed by a car.

3) The fact that these wild theories are so prevalent is a testimony to the level of distrust trust people have in the Bush administration (and probably towards government in general). Ultimately they have only themselves to blame.

4) The real conspiracy is Iraq. Sold EXPLICITLY on the basis of WMD and "imminent threat to the US and its citizens", there is plenty of evidence to suggest that this planned ever since Bush came into office, and had nothing to do with terrorism or 9/11.

Edited May 16, 2006 by Fishdude

[dalegg 143]

4) The real conspiracy is Iraq. Sold EXPLICITLY on the basis of WMD and "imminent threat to the US and its citizens", there is plenty of evidence to suggest that this planned ever since Bush came into office, and had nothing to do with terrorism or 9/11.

Maybe 9/11 was a conspiracy created with the sole purpose of starting a sense of panic in the U.S that would make it easier to convince U.S citizens that we needed to attack another country before they attacked us. YES! I figured it out!! I may have to go into hiding for a while now. B)

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

4) The real conspiracy is Iraq. Sold EXPLICITLY on the basis of WMD and "imminent threat to the US and its citizens", there is plenty of evidence to suggest that this planned ever since Bush came into office, and had nothing to do with terrorism or 9/11.

Maybe 9/11 was a conspiracy created with the sole purpose of starting a sense of panic in the U.S that would make it easier to convince U.S citizens that we needed to attack another country before they attacked us. YES! I figured it out!! I may have to go into hiding for a while now. B)

The sense of panic has indeed manifested itself, and I certainly believe the government has used it to its best advantage, but IMO its laughable that anyone in government conspired to bring it about or 'allow it to happen'.

9/11 was simply the result of lax security loopholes that unfortunately required a disaster of this nature to draw attention to the problem and do something about it.

Iraq is a totally separate issue, that has been associated with 9/11 in order to justify it.

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

1) The Bush administrations (in fact almost all government's are broadly incompetant in some way or other. Its unlikely in the extreme that a massive secret cover-up involving so many levels of government and law enforcement would be successful. The very idea, actually gives the government more credit than it is due.

2) 9/11 was a disaster milestone. To my knowledge no-one has ever attempted an experiment in which a fully laden jet liner is flown at full speed into an office building. Under such conditions how can anyone know what would happen...?

Quibbling over the facts in this case is a bit like finding a beheaded corpse with an axe beside it, and thinking that the person was killed by a car.

3) The fact that these wild theories are so prevalent is a testimony to the level of distrust trust people have in the Bush administration (and probably towards government in general). Ultimately they have only themselves to blame.

4) The real conspiracy is Iraq. Sold EXPLICITLY on the basis of WMD and "imminent threat to the US and its citizens", there is plenty of evidence to suggest that this planned ever since Bush came into office, and had nothing to do with terrorism or 9/11.

I do believe the US government let 9/11 happen. To force a war. I believe the war was already coming though.

"oops, my bad. bad intel"

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

4) The real conspiracy is Iraq. Sold EXPLICITLY on the basis of WMD and "imminent threat to the US and its citizens", there is plenty of evidence to suggest that this planned ever since Bush came into office, and had nothing to do with terrorism or 9/11.

Maybe 9/11 was a conspiracy created with the sole purpose of starting a sense of panic in the U.S that would make it easier to convince U.S citizens that we needed to attack another country before they attacked us. YES! I figured it out!! I may have to go into hiding for a while now. B)

Firstly, you obviously failed to pick the appropriate smiley here. This would have been more fitting:

Secondly, where exactly has FD suggested that 9/11 was a conspiracy at all or one in particular to set the stage for the Iraq invasion? I haven't read that anywhere. In fact, FD has, as far as I can remember, always dismissed any of the 9/11 conspiracy talk on the basis that the government (this one or any other one) would be absolutely unable to pull it off (besides there really being no rational reason to engage in it in the first place). I mean the Bush administration's house of cards that has come to be known as the case for an invasion into Iraq is falling apart pretty good. There is absolutely no rational reason to believe that a huge conspiracy regarding 9/11, literally involving tens of thousands of individuals on all sides of it, would remain intact.

I do believe the US government let 9/11 happen. To force a war. I believe the war was already coming though.

That I can see. Letting it happen thinking it wasn't going to be a "big deal" to have a couple airliners hi-jacked. Special Forces and SWAT teams and a few hundred casualties (at most) later, the case for war would have been made. I absolutely do not believe that they would have let it happen had they known, or even an indication, that the hi-jacked airliners were going to be freaken manned missiles taking down the Twin Towers and hitting the Pentagon. I think the Bush administration is one of the most evil governments this country has seen in a good long while but not even those bastards would have let this happen if they would have had a first clue of what was going down. As such, UA93, once they grasped what has been and was still coming our way, was shot down over PA as far as my theory is concerned...

Edited May 17, 2006 by ET-US2004

[dalegg 143]

4) The real conspiracy is Iraq. Sold EXPLICITLY on the basis of WMD and "imminent threat to the US and its citizens", there is plenty of evidence to suggest that this planned ever since Bush came into office, and had nothing to do with terrorism or 9/11.

Maybe 9/11 was a conspiracy created with the sole purpose of starting a sense of panic in the U.S that would make it easier to convince U.S citizens that we needed to attack another country before they attacked us. YES! I figured it out!! I may have to go into hiding for a while now. B)

Firstly, you obviously failed to pick the appropriate smiley here. This would have been more fitting:

Secondly, where exactly has FD suggested that 9/11 was a conspiracy at all or one in particular to set the stage for the Iraq invasion? I haven't read that anywhere.

Nowhere that I know of either. I was just filling him in.

[Artegal 1]

Funny GimmmyGirrrl has not responded to this thread.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Funny GimmmyGirrrl has not responded to this thread.

The flick is devastating in a way to many...

[cmartyn 0]

yabasta, No, to clarify, I'm saying that people, who form opinions based on shoddy and unscientific evidence dreampt up by self promoting sensationalistic morons and people, who in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, still choose to beleive in the conspiracy, that are about to mate, are scary :-)

Edited May 17, 2006 by cmartyn

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

4) The real conspiracy is Iraq. Sold EXPLICITLY on the basis of WMD and "imminent threat to the US and its citizens", there is plenty of evidence to suggest that this planned ever since Bush came into office, and had nothing to do with terrorism or 9/11.

Maybe 9/11 was a conspiracy created with the sole purpose of starting a sense of panic in the U.S that would make it easier to convince U.S citizens that we needed to attack another country before they attacked us. YES! I figured it out!! I may have to go into hiding for a while now. B)

Firstly, you obviously failed to pick the appropriate smiley here. This would have been more fitting:

Secondly, where exactly has FD suggested that 9/11 was a conspiracy at all or one in particular to set the stage for the Iraq invasion? I haven't read that anywhere.

Nowhere that I know of either. I was just filling him in.

Sure. Not my cup of sock strainings.

[gimygirl 0]

we live in a land where ignorance is prolific. unlike many on this subject my opinions and beliefs are malleable, i actually started out where most of you are.

as for this thread ... i agree with everything that steven has already brought up and there are more than enough points/questions for people to ponder, research and refute. but as with every discussion on this subject ... it is easier to get personal and emotional rather than confront the argument.

it's really not worth debating here with people who are not interested in what's happening in our country. B)

edit: grammar

Edited May 17, 2006 by gimygirl

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

it's really not worth debating here with people who are not interested in what's happening in our country. B)

So, the flick is fabricated?