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See I do not think that red flag like age or length of courtship is even considered, since if both of you are Muslim a long engagement is not the norm. And with age difference we have 3 years difference and it did not stop us from being wrapped up waiting for the CO to issue visa. Even the time knowing, the amount of evidence, the number of trips none of those it seems like really matters or effects when the visa will be issued. Perhaps the biggest issue is in what capacity the internet was used in your courtship, who knows exactly but there is not one answer.

When Govi and I went to the Embassy in KTM to get the document stating I was free to marry, I was dressed in salwar kameez and wearing a bindi since we were engaged at that point. The CO asked if I was Hindu and I said yes and I am assuming that will be on record when our application makes it to the Embassy. Since short courtships are the norm in Hindu families as well I hope that the fact that we married shortly after our (documented) meeting will not count against us. I say documented because we actually did meet briefly 1 year before we got married but did not realize how much we would hit it off until I came back to Nepal the next year. We talked on the phone a few times before our marriage but there is no record of it(I used phone cards) so as far as the Embassy is concerned we met right before marriage - at least this is my understanding.


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I actually do know of a case that, when they received their Notice of Intent to Revoke, the reasons stated did include age difference. So although they are not suppose to deny on that, they do. My Notice of Intent to Revoke didn't include age difference, nor did it state the ex brother in law. What it did say was that we met on the internet, and that we married shortly after we met, and that no family or friends were at the wedding. That last one wasn't true, they never asked who the people at the wedding were! Anyway, personally I don't believe those were the final issues, I think it perhaps made them look for more, and I believe 100% that the issue was the ex brother in law. I say that because on my rebuttal they had put a stick it note on the section that addressed his sister and ex brother in law. On that stick it note it said "his sister". Basically what I am saying is that you are not necessarily going to get the actual reasons for a denial if that does happen.

My husband and I have a significant age difference, but to be honest I don't think we had any issues until the ex brother in law issue came up. I don't look very old, nor am I very large, so by picture standard I wouldn't assume we would be denied from that. So it could be true that pictures speak a lot. I can't say for sure.

As far as both being Muslim, and so a meeting and engagement would not be an issue, not so. There was a couple on VJ a while back that were close in age, both Muslim, but had only known each other a short time. They tried to get approval before they met in person so that they could follow their religion, but it was denied. Then they did met in person and filed for the K-1. They were denied at the consulate. They didn't give them any reason for the denial, but this couple eventually broke up.

All in all keep in mind this is the US consulate, so they won't necessarily approve visas on the culture of the country, but on the other hand, they won't hesitate to deny if you don't follow the culture of the country. Their job is not to prove that your relationship is valid, but rather to prove that it isn't.

I have not seen a denial out of Morocco for quite some time now. I am not sure if that is because they got their hands slapped because a couple of years ago they went crazy on them. I wouldn't be surprised if they did. Its just #######. But hopefully they are giving people more of a benefit of a doubt rather than deny deny deny. Just don't stress about it to much, you and your hubby are a beautiful couple. Just organize and prepare well.

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Just don't stress about it to much, you and your hubby are a beautiful couple. Just organize and prepare well.

Rajaa - this is so true...submit that great photo of the two of you with your heads on your hands - I love that! You all look fantastic. ;):thumbs:

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they got their hands slapped because they werent looking at the evidences, giving the visas and the couples were not even still together

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04/04/2007 K1 Interview from H...w/the devil herself

06/12/2007 Rec'd Notification Case Now Back In Calif. only to expire

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11/20/2007 Married in Morocco

02/23/2008 Mailed CR1 application today

03/08/2008 NOA1 Notice Recd (notice date 3/4/08)

08/26/2008 File transfered fr Vermont to Calif

10/14/2008 APPROVALLLLLLLLLLLL

10/20/2008 Recd hard copy NOA2

10/20/2008 NVC Recd case

11/21/2008 CASE COMPLETE

01/15/2009 INTERVIEW

01/16/2009 VISA IN HAND

01/31/2009 ARRIVED OKC

BE WHO YOU ARE AND SAY WHAT YOU FEEL, BECAUSE THOSE WHO MIND DONT MATTER AND THOSE WHO MATTER DONT MIND

YOU CANT CHANGE THE PAST BUT YOU CAN RUIN THE PRESENT BY WORRYING OVER THE FUTURE

TRIP.... OVER LOVE, AND YOU CAN GET UP

FALL.... IN LOVE, AND YOU FALL FOREVER

I DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT, JUST NOT THE ABILITY

LIKE THE MEASLES, LOVE IS MOST DANGEROUS WHEN IT COMES LATER IN LIFE

LIFE IS NOT THE WAY ITS SUPPOSED TO BE, ITS THE WAY IT IS

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Just don't stress about it to much, you and your hubby are a beautiful couple. Just organize and prepare well.

Rajaa - this is so true...submit that great photo of the two of you with your heads on your hands - I love that! You all look fantastic. ;):thumbs:

Yes, that is a great picture!

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they got their hands slapped because they werent looking at the evidences, giving the visas and the couples were not even still together

Is this a fact? I certainly hope so! They wasted so much of ours and the USCIS's time with our denial. They could have simply requested that my hubby bring back proof of his claim and it would have been fixed so quick. Instead it went on for 15 freaking months and wasted the congressman and senators time. How did you find out? How did it come about? Did one of our cases spark this?

'Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Chardonnay in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO, What a Ride'

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I know first hand. Yes they can and do deny married couples. My husband and I were denied on a CR1. They don't always have any logic to it. Ours was pretty apparant however. They asked my husband if he had family in the US. He said yes, a sister and an ex brother in law. The consulate got confused and assumed that the 2 were married at one time for immigration purposes, so they asked why they got divorced. He told them that they didn't get divorced, the sister is still married to the man that petitioned her and the ex is from a different sister that has never been to the US.

Now at that point if the consulate was reasonable they would have given us the opportunity to bring in proof, but they denied us and sent the petition back to the USCIS for revokation. We fought it and won, but it added an additional 15 months to our process. We contacted both the congressman and senator for assistance, but it took some time to get one that was pro active enough. Our senators liason finally got through to the consulate and explained the situation, and they admitted to her they made a mistake, but it was too late, the file had already left.

After the reaffirmation of our petition they sent it back to Casa for his second interview. I was expecting a fight and had a file like no other prepared. I flew out to be with him for his interview, even though I knew they wouldn't let me in. The second interview was a mere formality however, they just wanted updated medical, police report, and I-864. He was not asked one more question on our case and he got the visa.

This may be rare, but it does happen. The key is to figure out all of your red flags and be prepared to have explanations and documentation to back you up. And yes, get your representative in your corner now.

All in all a person on here gave me sound advice. Hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

Morocco4ever...your arabic words I love Ahmed...are backwards...it reads right now on your signature "Ahmed I love" :D Just trying to help :blush:

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there was a case the couple had broken up, he did the interview, got the visa and showed up...very simple if they dont read anything..but i dont know what happen to him after that......no one on here

TIMELINE

04/04/2007 K1 Interview from H...w/the devil herself

06/12/2007 Rec'd Notification Case Now Back In Calif. only to expire

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11/20/2007 Married in Morocco

02/23/2008 Mailed CR1 application today

03/08/2008 NOA1 Notice Recd (notice date 3/4/08)

08/26/2008 File transfered fr Vermont to Calif

10/14/2008 APPROVALLLLLLLLLLLL

10/20/2008 Recd hard copy NOA2

10/20/2008 NVC Recd case

11/21/2008 CASE COMPLETE

01/15/2009 INTERVIEW

01/16/2009 VISA IN HAND

01/31/2009 ARRIVED OKC

BE WHO YOU ARE AND SAY WHAT YOU FEEL, BECAUSE THOSE WHO MIND DONT MATTER AND THOSE WHO MATTER DONT MIND

YOU CANT CHANGE THE PAST BUT YOU CAN RUIN THE PRESENT BY WORRYING OVER THE FUTURE

TRIP.... OVER LOVE, AND YOU CAN GET UP

FALL.... IN LOVE, AND YOU FALL FOREVER

I DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT, JUST NOT THE ABILITY

LIKE THE MEASLES, LOVE IS MOST DANGEROUS WHEN IT COMES LATER IN LIFE

LIFE IS NOT THE WAY ITS SUPPOSED TO BE, ITS THE WAY IT IS

I MAY NOT BE WHERE I WANT TO BE BUT IM SURE NOT WHERE I WAS

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I know first hand. Yes they can and do deny married couples. My husband and I were denied on a CR1. They don't always have any logic to it. Ours was pretty apparant however. They asked my husband if he had family in the US. He said yes, a sister and an ex brother in law. The consulate got confused and assumed that the 2 were married at one time for immigration purposes, so they asked why they got divorced. He told them that they didn't get divorced, the sister is still married to the man that petitioned her and the ex is from a different sister that has never been to the US.

Now at that point if the consulate was reasonable they would have given us the opportunity to bring in proof, but they denied us and sent the petition back to the USCIS for revokation. We fought it and won, but it added an additional 15 months to our process. We contacted both the congressman and senator for assistance, but it took some time to get one that was pro active enough. Our senators liason finally got through to the consulate and explained the situation, and they admitted to her they made a mistake, but it was too late, the file had already left.

After the reaffirmation of our petition they sent it back to Casa for his second interview. I was expecting a fight and had a file like no other prepared. I flew out to be with him for his interview, even though I knew they wouldn't let me in. The second interview was a mere formality however, they just wanted updated medical, police report, and I-864. He was not asked one more question on our case and he got the visa.

This may be rare, but it does happen. The key is to figure out all of your red flags and be prepared to have explanations and documentation to back you up. And yes, get your representative in your corner now.

All in all a person on here gave me sound advice. Hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

Morocco4ever...your arabic words I love Ahmed...are backwards...it reads right now on your signature "Ahmed I love" :D Just trying to help :blush:

Yeah I know, my husband laughed at it too. But I liked it, so I kept it.

'Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Chardonnay in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO, What a Ride'

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I know first hand. Yes they can and do deny married couples. My husband and I were denied on a CR1. They don't always have any logic to it. Ours was pretty apparant however. They asked my husband if he had family in the US. He said yes, a sister and an ex brother in law. The consulate got confused and assumed that the 2 were married at one time for immigration purposes, so they asked why they got divorced. He told them that they didn't get divorced, the sister is still married to the man that petitioned her and the ex is from a different sister that has never been to the US.

Now at that point if the consulate was reasonable they would have given us the opportunity to bring in proof, but they denied us and sent the petition back to the USCIS for revokation. We fought it and won, but it added an additional 15 months to our process. We contacted both the congressman and senator for assistance, but it took some time to get one that was pro active enough. Our senators liason finally got through to the consulate and explained the situation, and they admitted to her they made a mistake, but it was too late, the file had already left.

After the reaffirmation of our petition they sent it back to Casa for his second interview. I was expecting a fight and had a file like no other prepared. I flew out to be with him for his interview, even though I knew they wouldn't let me in. The second interview was a mere formality however, they just wanted updated medical, police report, and I-864. He was not asked one more question on our case and he got the visa.

This may be rare, but it does happen. The key is to figure out all of your red flags and be prepared to have explanations and documentation to back you up. And yes, get your representative in your corner now.

All in all a person on here gave me sound advice. Hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

Morocco4ever...your arabic words I love Ahmed...are backwards...it reads right now on your signature "Ahmed I love" :D Just trying to help :blush:

Yeah I know, my husband laughed at it too. But I liked it, so I kept it.

Yes, its cute and they will laugh...as we giggle when they say things like "close the light" instead of turn off the light...LMAO :D

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I don't think there is one BIGGEST issue. Each case is judged on it's own merits and for that reason it's not a good idea to compare cases with each other. Even the age thing boggles my mind, in the sense that I have seen couples with barely any difference have issues, and personally know two couples from Morocco who have a 25 and 27 yr age gap, and aside from the time it took in AP, they had no issues.

Sometimes the consulate asks the most basic questions; other times they ask what appear to be rather bizarre questions. They asked my husband about my son who died as an infant! I don't even know how they knew about that unless when they asked him about my kids, he mentioned them ALL. They proceeded to ask at what age and by what means he died. Sheesh. What does that have to do with the tea in china? (in retrospect I guess him knowing all that detail showed the depth of our communication).

Reda: Yes Google patty Murray, select the link for immigration and there is a form you can print, sign and fax. Once you have an interview date, call and let mary know. other than that you are pretty much all set.

And something that caught my attention but maybe others or an immigration atty can answer you on it: You mentioned that your husband is trying to establish residence in Spain, while he is awaiting a visa interview in Morocco. Might that look like he is just trying to escape his country by whatever means possible? (thinking like the devil here for a moment) :devil:

I can not find a link for immigration on the Patty Murray website. Ive emailed her before Said interview and have heard nothing from her. I cant find the form to sign.

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I don't know where in WA you live, but here is an example of the types of pages you should be looking for (casework/help with a fed agency). You have to send them the privacy/authorization form.

http://www.house.gov/baird/cs/help.shtml

http://www.house.gov/inslee/services/federal.html

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I can not find a link for immigration on the Patty Murray website. Ive emailed her before Said interview and have heard nothing from her. I cant find the form to sign.

http://murray.senate.gov/casework/index.cfm

Scroll down a bit and look at the brown writing. The link for the privacy form is in there. There is also a contact us link that gives you phone and fax numbers for all of her offices.

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Just don't stress about it to much, you and your hubby are a beautiful couple. Just organize and prepare well.

Rajaa - this is so true...submit that great photo of the two of you with your heads on your hands - I love that! You all look fantastic. ;):thumbs:

Yes, that is a great picture!

lol :blush: thanks guys... maybe I should put that one back up lol...

I am trying not to stress but someone mentioned about him living in Spain. I didn't think about it that way but he is thinking about showing the consulate he doesn't need me to leave his country.... that he can leave on his own but wants to be with me cause he loves me. He'd move back if he thought it would cause problems but he also likes the idea of living in Spain if necessary and if he leaves it will be almost impossible to go back.

I have a 3oo page album of us and places we've been and family... our age difference is 11 yrs. but most don't notice it.. we met on the net not meaning to be serious and later found it was like we knew eachother forever... we talked non stop about life and beliefs... I converted then we fell in love. We met in person, knew we were in love flew back months later and married. That is our little love story lol. :luv:

Thanks everyone.. I just am not sure how to be prepared but everyone has been very helpful!

Rajaa

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I can not find a link for immigration on the Patty Murray website. Ive emailed her before Said interview and have heard nothing from her. I cant find the form to sign.

http://murray.senate.gov/casework/index.cfm

Scroll down a bit and look at the brown writing. The link for the privacy form is in there. There is also a contact us link that gives you phone and fax numbers for all of her offices.

Choookran :thumbs:

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