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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Senegal
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This might have been covered before if so please point me to the correct postings. From what I am reading some people have a harder time get a K-1 visa because finance is from a country that high a amount of marriage fraud. My question is how does the US Government determine this. Do they have a formula that they follow?

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: New Zealand
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Well the fiance is interviewed at the US Embassy in that Country so they are well aware if there is a higher rate of fraud. They make the decision therefore there is more scrutiny.

Sad thing for legitimate couples going through those Consualtes... and for the rest of us doing this because of love.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Senegal
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Well the fiance is interviewed at the US Embassy in that Country so they are well aware if there is a higher rate of fraud. They make the decision therefore there is more scrutiny.

Sad thing for legitimate couples going through those Consualtes... and for the rest of us doing this because of love.

Ok, but how do the determine the rate of fraud and what do they consider high? Is it just based on the USC later reporting that the person married them just for a green card. Or do the look at divorce rates and date of divorce?

Filed: Other Country: China
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This might have been covered before if so please point me to the correct postings. From what I am reading some people have a harder time get a K-1 visa because finance is from a country that high a amount of marriage fraud. My question is how does the US Government determine this. Do they have a formula that they follow?

There are various fraud profiles that vary by country but each case is evaluated on its own merits. No simple answers here. If your case has some red flags it would be best to discuss them directly in the appropriate visa forum.

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This linked thread may help answer the same/similar question once asked by Tim&Poonam and answered by heishe! :thumbs:

Heishe has the best insight into USCIS processing procedures ever given here at VJ. :thumbs:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...mp;#entry427818

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  • April 2004 met online
  • July 16, 2006 Met in person on her birthday in United Arab Emirates
  • August 4, 2006 sent certified mail I-129F packet Neb SC
  • August 9, 2006 NOA1
  • August 21, 2006 received NOA1 in mail
  • October 4, 5, 7, 13 & 17 2006 Touches! 50 day address change... Yes Judith is beautiful, quit staring at her passport photo and approve us!!! Shaming works! LOL
  • October 13, 2006 NOA2! November 2, 2006 NOA2? Huh? NVC already processed and sent us on to Abu Dhabi Consulate!
  • February 12, 2007 Abu Dhabi Interview SUCCESS!!! February 14 Visa in hand!
  • March 6, 2007 she is here!
  • MARCH 14, 2007 WE ARE MARRIED!!!
  • May 5, 2007 Sent AOS/EAD packet
  • May 11, 2007 NOA1 AOS/EAD
  • June 7, 2007 Biometrics appointment
  • June 8, 2007 first post biometrics touch, June 11, next touch...
  • August 1, 2007 AOS Interview! APPROVED!! EAD APPROVED TOO...
  • August 6, 2007 EAD card and Welcome Letter received!
  • August 13, 2007 GREEN CARD received!!! 375 days since mailing the I-129F!

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  • May 1, 2009 first day to file
  • May 9, 2009 mailed I-751 to USCIS CS
Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Senegal
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This might have been covered before if so please point me to the correct postings. From what I am reading some people have a harder time get a K-1 visa because finance is from a country that high a amount of marriage fraud. My question is how does the US Government determine this. Do they have a formula that they follow?

There are various fraud profiles that vary by country but each case is evaluated on its own merits. No simple answers here. If your case has some red flags it would be best to discuss them directly in the appropriate visa forum.

This is not about my personal case. I am just wondering in general. I feel that the government should have these profiles available to the public and how they come to their conclusions. I think it would help people understand the process, and make the government be more accountable in their denials and approvals.

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This linked thread may help answer the same/similar question once asked by Tim&Poonam and answered by heishe! :thumbs:

Heishe has the best insight into USCIS processing procedures ever given here at VJ. :thumbs:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...mp;#entry427818

The best darn explanation ever. :rofl::thumbs:

Life is so strange but it sure keeps you on your toes!!!

Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Pakistan
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Check out the divorce forum and you might get a better idea. esp the ones break up on easy terms within the two yrs removal.

august 2004 I-129 filed (neb)

DEC 2004 Approved

interview: SEOUL

MArch 21st , 2005AR for special security clearance,washington

May 18th tranfer case from Seoul to Islammabad

June 21st security clearance done

June 28th online at the embassy in Islamabad

waiting for paper transfer and the good word

OCTOBER 14TH 2005 Interview Number 2: ISLAMABAD, PK

AR number 2 sent to DOS per Islamabad (2 cable request)

Nov 22 okd updated financial and etc proof accepted / embassy waiting for security cables

dec 20th one cable back waiting on 2nd

Jan 17th.. good word recieved. SECURITY CHECKS ALL CLEAR!!! DOS says embassy to contact him within two weeks!!!!!!

FEBRUARY 10th, 2006 VISA RECIEVED!!! They called him In via phone, stamped his passort and sent him on his way!!!

FEB 28th WELCOME HOME>>>POE CHICAGO did not even look at xray, few questions. one hour wait at Poe

march 10th marriage (nikkah at the islamic center)

aug 2006 AOS interview, cond 2 yr GC arrived september

June 2008 applied for removal of conditions on permant residency aka awaiting for 10 yr greencard

Dec 2008 10yr green card approved, no interview.

Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Pakistan
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also husband dies soon after wife arrival,, scary!!! booo ha ha

august 2004 I-129 filed (neb)

DEC 2004 Approved

interview: SEOUL

MArch 21st , 2005AR for special security clearance,washington

May 18th tranfer case from Seoul to Islammabad

June 21st security clearance done

June 28th online at the embassy in Islamabad

waiting for paper transfer and the good word

OCTOBER 14TH 2005 Interview Number 2: ISLAMABAD, PK

AR number 2 sent to DOS per Islamabad (2 cable request)

Nov 22 okd updated financial and etc proof accepted / embassy waiting for security cables

dec 20th one cable back waiting on 2nd

Jan 17th.. good word recieved. SECURITY CHECKS ALL CLEAR!!! DOS says embassy to contact him within two weeks!!!!!!

FEBRUARY 10th, 2006 VISA RECIEVED!!! They called him In via phone, stamped his passort and sent him on his way!!!

FEB 28th WELCOME HOME>>>POE CHICAGO did not even look at xray, few questions. one hour wait at Poe

march 10th marriage (nikkah at the islamic center)

aug 2006 AOS interview, cond 2 yr GC arrived september

June 2008 applied for removal of conditions on permant residency aka awaiting for 10 yr greencard

Dec 2008 10yr green card approved, no interview.

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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This linked thread may help answer the same/similar question once asked by Tim&Poonam and answered by heishe! :thumbs:

Heishe has the best insight into USCIS processing procedures ever given here at VJ. :thumbs:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...mp;#entry427818

:rofl:

Except that now USCIS have apparently transferred the CSC staff to VSC because that is what is happening at VSC and CSC has VSC's old staff!

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Morocco
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Well the fiance is interviewed at the US Embassy in that Country so they are well aware if there is a higher rate of fraud. They make the decision therefore there is more scrutiny.

Sad thing for legitimate couples going through those Consualtes... and for the rest of us doing this because of love.

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Filed: Country: Senegal
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Well the fiance is interviewed at the US Embassy in that Country so they are well aware if there is a higher rate of fraud. They make the decision therefore there is more scrutiny.

Sad thing for legitimate couples going through those Consualtes... and for the rest of us doing this because of love.

Ok, but how do the determine the rate of fraud and what do they consider high? Is it just based on the USC later reporting that the person married them just for a green card. Or do the look at divorce rates and date of divorce?

High fraud countries are determined by the fraud investigation team present at the embassies. These teams see the same pattern every day. Thus experience teaches them to target high fraud and label countries as such.

This data is compiled when someone is put under AP / AR and with home investigations and document verification and also fraud

exposed at the AOS level and sometimes deportations.

High fraud countries are poor countries with sub standard living conditions, a high crime rate, war torn countries etc. usually third world countries, underdeveloped versus developed countries.

Beneficiaries who commit fraud leave a track record that DHS compiles along with data from USCIS and CO's.

Filed: Country: Jamaica
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This might have been covered before if so please point me to the correct postings. From what I am reading some people have a harder time get a K-1 visa because finance is from a country that high a amount of marriage fraud. My question is how does the US Government determine this. Do they have a formula that they follow?

I am thinking they keep track of who actually files for AOS, LOC, extends green cards indefinately, files for naturalization, etc.

And, of course, if there is a break up of a relationship or marriage that results in letters, phone calls, e-mails, etc. to the USCIS, there is a paper trail.

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Well the fiance is interviewed at the US Embassy in that Country so they are well aware if there is a higher rate of fraud. They make the decision therefore there is more scrutiny.

Sad thing for legitimate couples going through those Consualtes... and for the rest of us doing this because of love.

Ok, but how do the determine the rate of fraud and what do they consider high? Is it just based on the USC later reporting that the person married them just for a green card. Or do the look at divorce rates and date of divorce?

High fraud countries are determined by the fraud investigation team present at the embassies. These teams see the same pattern every day. Thus experience teaches them to target high fraud and label countries as such.

This data is compiled when someone is put under AP / AR and with home investigations and document verification and also fraud

exposed at the AOS level and sometimes deportations.

High fraud countries are poor countries with sub standard living conditions, a high crime rate, war torn countries etc. usually third world countries, underdeveloped versus developed countries.

Beneficiaries who commit fraud leave a track record that DHS compiles along with data from USCIS and CO's.

What? Fraud investigation teams? Working for whom? Reporting to whom? And budgeted by whom? Beneficiaries who commit fraud leave a record sure, a biometric record. What is your authority for all of this?

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