Jerry Springer Interview

[~Jackie~ 30]

And by sharing the details you will be helping someone else in the future. That's the great thing about vj.

[palilover 1]

How will it affect us if my husband went ahead and found work in another country? I know our consulate will chagne as it would not be Palestine, but can tehy just forward our current paperwork to another consulate? Or do we have to start over???? If this continues, I am worried about the financial hardship for me supporting myself alone here, supporting him (I explained this to his family and his family does not even care about that and there aer several members of his family including sil over here who are living on piles of money), and affording lawyer and further immigration fees. I already work around 60 hours a week so no time for a second job:( My husband needs to be workiing but there is no work in Paletsine as I said before. And he needs to eat too:(

Why would you want to add any more confusion to an already precarious case?

1. So we can be together again. This is what we both want most now of anything. but the circumstances are not making it easy for us. If I leave and go live with him to Palestine, it is a life of instability and his family is not supportive of supporting us ain anyway. We're on our own here. He's got no job there so no income. And me, even though I can fly through the checkpoints by wiggling my passport (as I seen this time, whoohoo) I do not have a degree so the chances of me finding a job in Israel are slim unless I wanna do ####### work like wash dishes at a restaurant or something. And even then, will that be enough to pay for legal fees back home? Probably not when you consider my commute daily from his village to Jerusalem and back and then food on top of that. The only option for us to be back together again is for him to leave Palestine and go to another country. And then I can follow when he gets table enough and we can wait for our visa then. I wish so much if I did not leave Palestine this time and be with him til this ends. Even when he was at the airport with me, he cried and said if he had a job, he would make it so I would not ahve to go back and we can wait for his visa there and go back together....

2. If the CO wants to be a ####### and accuse of fraud, how he going to do that if I go over there to live in Palestine or otherwise? The only issue with that is I would have to give up my job here which is the basis of the AOS.......so that is a no no.

[palilover 1]

Just interested in how you two met? Did he go to school in America? I feel for you at this point, must be hard to come up with all kind of money to do the visa, since I am guessing he dosn't have any with out being able to work. I hope it all turns out well for you, and you both will be happy forever.

we met when he was here on visitor' visa. This was his third time to the US visiting his sister. His sister was friends with my neighbor at the time (also pali).

[palilover 1]

And by sharing the details you will be helping someone else in the future. That's the great thing about vj.

yeah but now ppl probably wanna know why I stay with him though and that is what I hate. Everytime something does not look perfedct when it comes to a US cirtizen marrying a non USC, it's all about the green card accusations. The few friends I do have at the moment are I think wishing me luck but waiting for me to fall on my face or expecting it including my own family even though they would never say it. :/

But I have been thinking today about what my husband said. He was afraid I would listen to other people and leave him after the interview because I did not hide what people were saying about him. He made a good point. What do people do besides talk? He said do other people help you and will other pepel help you when you leave me? He's right on that. As I saw with my neighbors who turned their backs on me when I married my husband, they left. But through everything, including the trouble they were starting, my husband stood by me. When I was having problems here a few months ago, he stood by me. When I was in Palestine upset over the interview, even though he knew it was his fault, he still stood by me. He knows me better than anyone and can figure me out even if I don't say much. (sometimes that is a bad thing:) And more importantly, despite what happened at the consulate, he treats me better than my own family ever did.

So once again I sit here and I don't really have anyone in Boston that I can talk to or be with or anything. I used to hang out with my neighbors. But no, they are pricks obviously and I dont live with tehm anymore. My current neighbors are Morrocon and they aer prejudiced agaisnt me because I am woman/American/and they still wont fix my toilet. And the friends I do talk to occasionally are not around...I think they are waiting for something bad to happen and they tell me to not trust him anyways. And my only friend right now is my husband...who is locked up in Palestine like a caged animal:(

so vj is good for support too and bouncing ideas off.....thanks again:)

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

After a betrayl I've found that once you get over the, "Why I stay with him", phase bothering you then things will gel and become more emotionally stable. It took me from Sept of last year till July of this year to finally get over what happened between us. It was like poison that seeped into me and took a while to process. I had to go to a counselor for a while to get clairification for myself. Finally after many long months we stuck it out and worked it out and now I can say this last pms cycle was the first time in a while I felt 100% in love for him again.

[Ta Ta 1]

Great advice Omoba!

jJ

(is there another st louis meetup ?)

No Jackie, not that I know of. I am not in OT that much anymore and have not talked to Luz lately or Carla.

[Donna A 4]

i wish u the best of luck. im sure with you sticking with him after everything that happened is proof enough it is the real thing and not fruad. good luck.

[Ta Ta 1]

I am sorry for what you had to go through.

Try to stay calm until he goes back and the embassy will review the documents. If they will approve the visa in this case I would say they are very lenient.

If he is denied then insist that you see the chief consul to review the decision right there, if he won't overturn it ask for a waiver form for misrepresentation. At that point go to the immigrate2us site and study what is involved in processing the waiver and hardship letter.

Hire the best attorney to guide you through it.

It is expensive and very time consuming to prepare the waiver and can take 6-9 months more or less to find out if it is approved. From what you have said he should definitely qualify for a waiver for misrepresentation if denied.

Best wishes

Thanks for that!! Wow 6-9 months???? And is it going to stay at the consulate this whole time then?

I've decided what I may do is call the consulate directly this wek after they have had time to receive the paperwork. I will request to speak to teh consular officer directly whom I spoke to before. I am going to tell him basically my side of the story and how we ended kup in the immigration process. The bottom lilne is I am just as unhappy with tehm accusing my husband of using me for a green card as my husband is. I want them to KNOW that and know the correct story. As for the misrepresentation, now that I've gotten my husband side of the story...and like I said, I know he is capable of making such a foolish decision.....I am going to explain this to the CO. Since they said they would leave it up to my decision of whetehr I wanted to continue and they'd continue processing...we will see what that givs us.

And what will happen if the CO denies us? Will I get osmething in mail or only my husband? If it's only my husband, that should be very fun with his english him reading an entire denial letter covered in his tears:(

If denied, you should receive the waiver form right then and there, if not ask for it. AFTER researching the waiver/hardship letter and consulting an attorney your husband has to submit the waiver and $ 545. Then you wait until notified.

Waivers are send to USCIS field offices to different places / countries for adjudication. Not sure but yours may be Rome.

In my case, my fiance lives in Sierra Leone, his processing embassy is in Dakar Senegal and the waiver would be adjudicated

in Accra, Ghana. Ask if the CO can recommend to expedite the waiver.

ok but who is going to get the waivr? My husband or me? Are they going tos end it by courier mail or regular mail? If they send it by regular mail, no way can he get it as regular mail in Palestine is nonexistent. Only he can receive dhl or ups or something like that. And at this point, the consulate has said he does not need to go back to Jerusalem. He can just aramex the papers to the consulate. And tehn the paper they gave my husband at the interview said if all checks outw ell with his submitted papers, they will ask for his passport.

Or aer you thinking they may change their mind and ask for second interview before denail or?

You have to fill out the waiver form and write the hardship letter, explaining YOUR hardship, as the USC, they don't care about his.

You have to back it up with supporting evidence. For example financial and medical hardship, being away from family if you had to live in Palistine.

Tell him to ask for or pick up the waiver from the embassy if he gets denied. Sometimes they will hand over a waiver to those who qualify with the denial reason already written in but you can write it in also. You can also download the form I-601

There is a specific way to write what they are looking for, it is not as easy as just writing a letter, therefore my advice to

at least consult a lawyer. If it comes to that point I will tell you more.

For now just wait and see what happens, he just may get the passport stamped and will arrive soon, no one can begin to guess

at this point.

I would not worry about him going to another country to work right now, it will complicate matters.

Rethink it if you will be denied and focus on what is at hand now. You should know something soon. If you don't hear from them, email or call them, stay very respectful and keep your emotions in check. Detach from too much drama when you talk to them and

matter of factly tell them in not too long of a story that you still want him with you and you love each other genuinely.

How will it affect us if my husband went ahead and found work in another country? I know our consulate will chagne as it would not be Palestine, but can tehy just forward our current paperwork to another consulate? Or do we have to start over???? If this continues, I am worried about the financial hardship for me supporting myself alone here, supporting him (I explained this to his family and his family does not even care about that and there aer several members of his family including sil over here who are living on piles of money), and affording lawyer and further immigration fees. I already work around 60 hours a week so no time for a second job:( My husband needs to be workiing but there is no work in Paletsine as I said before. And he needs to eat too:(

I would not recommend moving away for you but remain with your job and show stable support for AOS.

My finace also lost a good job and we are in a similar situation as you, in that he can't find work anywhere.

[Ta Ta 1]

And by sharing the details you will be helping someone else in the future. That's the great thing about vj.

yeah but now ppl probably wanna know why I stay with him though and that is what I hate. Everytime something does not look perfedct when it comes to a US cirtizen marrying a non USC, it's all about the green card accusations. The few friends I do have at the moment are I think wishing me luck but waiting for me to fall on my face or expecting it including my own family even though they would never say it. :/

But I have been thinking today about what my husband said. He was afraid I would listen to other people and leave him after the interview because I did not hide what people were saying about him. He made a good point. What do people do besides talk? He said do other people help you and will other pepel help you when you leave me? He's right on that. As I saw with my neighbors who turned their backs on me when I married my husband, they left. But through everything, including the trouble they were starting, my husband stood by me. When I was having problems here a few months ago, he stood by me. When I was in Palestine upset over the interview, even though he knew it was his fault, he still stood by me. He knows me better than anyone and can figure me out even if I don't say much. (sometimes that is a bad thing:) And more importantly, despite what happened at the consulate, he treats me better than my own family ever did.

So once again I sit here and I don't really have anyone in Boston that I can talk to or be with or anything. I used to hang out with my neighbors. But no, they are pricks obviously and I dont live with tehm anymore. My current neighbors are Morrocon and they aer prejudiced agaisnt me because I am woman/American/and they still wont fix my toilet. And the friends I do talk to occasionally are not around...I think they are waiting for something bad to happen and they tell me to not trust him anyways. And my only friend right now is my husband...who is locked up in Palestine like a caged animal:(

so vj is good for support too and bouncing ideas off.....thanks again:)

Try to quiet your thoughts a bit and relax. It does not matter what anyone thinks about your relationship.

People talk, they always will, analyzing what they don't understand.

There is no need to defend your relationship.

Think twice before sharing your situation with everyone, keep it between a few good friends for support.

On a lighter side what's up with the neighbors fixing your toilet

[palilover 1]

ggrr now I'm mad again. He called his sister here in the US. Keep in mind she is mad rich. She sends over 2-3000 a month to palestine to her family. I do not like this woman because her and I have had issues before a few months back and this is one of the times my husband defended me. Since then, she refuses to speak to him and even said to my face nad his face (well on phone in his case) she never wanted to see us again because he was taking my side. Sinc then, she wont call him and he has not called her. They only know of each other through the motehr if she talks about them. And she tried to call me only one time before I went to Palestine probably to make me bring over a bunch of cash and extra bags of her stuff with me to Palestine. I avoided the call as I did not appreciate being uesd that way when she cannot even call to do anything for me or say anything nice to me, especially after she told me she never wanted to see me again! So my husband just now....he has not let go of his idea to be taxi driver in palestine as that may be his only way to do anything there. And since he now does not know when he will be able to come here, he wants to do something over there to keep busy and to help me more sort this whole thing uot with immigration. He just now called that rich sister here and said hi, how are you and she said fine. He began to tell her about his taxi idea and do you know what she said ? "You only want to talk to me for money?" My husband hung up the phone on her. OMG she won't even help her own brother who is living in a third world country try to find work!! And she is rich woman cuz of her husband here and always bragging about how much money she has.....and I've seen her take advantage of people here is she tells people she must esnd so much money back to palestine to support her "poor family" but her family is not "that" poor.....she uses that as an excuse to beg for money from other people so she can get free meals when she is taken out by friends. And I know she's too much more well off than that.

I hate people who use people no matter who you are.

But even more, I am upset that my husband is wanting to do something to help me, but I cannot help him fast enough it seems, the last time I looked at the calendar, it was still sunday, and even every door gets shut in my husband's face

this is a bad day:(

[LaL 418]

How will it affect us if my husband went ahead and found work in another country? I know our consulate will chagne as it would not be Palestine, but can tehy just forward our current paperwork to another consulate? Or do we have to start over???? If this continues, I am worried about the financial hardship for me supporting myself alone here, supporting him (I explained this to his family and his family does not even care about that and there aer several members of his family including sil over here who are living on piles of money), and affording lawyer and further immigration fees. I already work around 60 hours a week so no time for a second job:( My husband needs to be workiing but there is no work in Paletsine as I said before. And he needs to eat too:(

Why would you want to add any more confusion to an already precarious case?

1. So we can be together again. This is what we both want most now of anything. but the circumstances are not making it easy for us. If I leave and go live with him to Palestine, it is a life of instability and his family is not supportive of supporting us ain anyway. We're on our own here. He's got no job there so no income. And me, even though I can fly through the checkpoints by wiggling my passport (as I seen this time, whoohoo) I do not have a degree so the chances of me finding a job in Israel are slim unless I wanna do ####### work like wash dishes at a restaurant or something. And even then, will that be enough to pay for legal fees back home? Probably not when you consider my commute daily from his village to Jerusalem and back and then food on top of that. The only option for us to be back together again is for him to leave Palestine and go to another country. And then I can follow when he gets table enough and we can wait for our visa then. I wish so much if I did not leave Palestine this time and be with him til this ends. Even when he was at the airport with me, he cried and said if he had a job, he would make it so I would not ahve to go back and we can wait for his visa there and go back together....

2. If the CO wants to be a ####### and accuse of fraud, how he going to do that if I go over there to live in Palestine or otherwise? The only issue with that is I would have to give up my job here which is the basis of the AOS.......so that is a no no.

I might be totally confused here, but didn't they ask for some paperwork/documentation? Sure it's possible they may wind up denying you - but from what you said - it looks as though they may just process the corrected paperwork and request the passport (although they would be justified with slapping him with mirepresentation). Why not just wait and see what comes of the submission of the corrected paperwork?

[Ta Ta 1]

ggrr now I'm mad again. He called his sister here in the US. Keep in mind she is mad rich. She sends over 2-3000 a month to palestine to her family. I do not like this woman because her and I have had issues before a few months back and this is one of the times my husband defended me. Since then, she refuses to speak to him and even said to my face nad his face (well on phone in his case) she never wanted to see us again because he was taking my side. Sinc then, she wont call him and he has not called her. They only know of each other through the motehr if she talks about them. And she tried to call me only one time before I went to Palestine probably to make me bring over a bunch of cash and extra bags of her stuff with me to Palestine. I avoided the call as I did not appreciate being uesd that way when she cannot even call to do anything for me or say anything nice to me, especially after she told me she never wanted to see me again! So my husband just now....he has not let go of his idea to be taxi driver in palestine as that may be his only way to do anything there. And since he now does not know when he will be able to come here, he wants to do something over there to keep busy and to help me more sort this whole thing uot with immigration. He just now called that rich sister here and said hi, how are you and she said fine. He began to tell her about his taxi idea and do you know what she said ? "You only want to talk to me for money?" My husband hung up the phone on her. OMG she won't even help her own brother who is living in a third world country try to find work!! And she is rich woman cuz of her husband here and always bragging about how much money she has.....and I've seen her take advantage of people here is she tells people she must esnd so much money back to palestine to support her "poor family" but her family is not "that" poor.....she uses that as an excuse to beg for money from other people so she can get free meals when she is taken out by friends. And I know she's too much more well off than that.

I hate people who use people no matter who you are.

But even more, I am upset that my husband is wanting to do something to help me, but I cannot help him fast enough it seems, the last time I looked at the calendar, it was still sunday, and even every door gets shut in my husband's face

this is a bad day:(

When it seems all doors get shut and brick walls rise at every turn, be still, pray and know a window will open somewhere, somehow. Just relax and calm your thoughts.

[palilover 1]

And by sharing the details you will be helping someone else in the future. That's the great thing about vj.

yeah but now ppl probably wanna know why I stay with him though and that is what I hate. Everytime something does not look perfedct when it comes to a US cirtizen marrying a non USC, it's all about the green card accusations. The few friends I do have at the moment are I think wishing me luck but waiting for me to fall on my face or expecting it including my own family even though they would never say it. :/

But I have been thinking today about what my husband said. He was afraid I would listen to other people and leave him after the interview because I did not hide what people were saying about him. He made a good point. What do people do besides talk? He said do other people help you and will other pepel help you when you leave me? He's right on that. As I saw with my neighbors who turned their backs on me when I married my husband, they left. But through everything, including the trouble they were starting, my husband stood by me. When I was having problems here a few months ago, he stood by me. When I was in Palestine upset over the interview, even though he knew it was his fault, he still stood by me. He knows me better than anyone and can figure me out even if I don't say much. (sometimes that is a bad thing:) And more importantly, despite what happened at the consulate, he treats me better than my own family ever did.

So once again I sit here and I don't really have anyone in Boston that I can talk to or be with or anything. I used to hang out with my neighbors. But no, they are pricks obviously and I dont live with tehm anymore. My current neighbors are Morrocon and they aer prejudiced agaisnt me because I am woman/American/and they still wont fix my toilet. And the friends I do talk to occasionally are not around...I think they are waiting for something bad to happen and they tell me to not trust him anyways. And my only friend right now is my husband...who is locked up in Palestine like a caged animal:(

so vj is good for support too and bouncing ideas off.....thanks again:)

Try to quiet your thoughts a bit and relax. It does not matter what anyone thinks about your relationship.

People talk, they always will, analyzing what they don't understand.

There is no need to defend your relationship.

Think twice before sharing your situation with everyone, keep it between a few good friends for support.

On a lighter side what's up with the neighbors fixing your toilet

ah..my toilet I forgot about that. yeah I have immigration drama most ly but yeah toilet drama too.

I have had toilet issues since I moved into my apt. I did not know this was happening before nor were they honest with me. And of course I did not have to go when I was looking at the apt so I did not know;)) But soon after I moved in, I hear noise in my walls....sounds like the thing in the woods from teh tv show LOST. And my toilet runs all the time, never fills up completely. I told my neighbors about this as they are the landlors.. So the guy, being a fanatical bearded Muslim, will not really go near me since I'm a woman. The wife comes down and she will wiggle something and tell me it's fixed but it works for 2 days and no. They thought the noise in the walls was the hat but no, they brought someone out to look at it, and it is the toilet. Don't know if they have the same problem with their toilet upstairs or not. Right before I left for Paletsine, my toilet exploded and yucky stuff all over my floor. I told the guy and he has a major cow and calls a plumber. I'm at work at this time now and he calls me and tells me his plumber found Qtips and pads in the toilet which clogged it. I keep telling him no, not from me ebcause that stuff is not anywhere near my toilet and I sure as hell dont flush that stsuff and how can a pad go into toilet anyways???? He kept interupting and saying how much it costed him and blabla. When I got home, I found that I was missing Qtips and pads. So they planted the evidence in case I wanted to figh thtem on it. Since I've been bck, I have not needed to use my toilet except last night (cuz normally I live at work) and guess what? Toilet keeps running and the LOST noise is coming from walls again.

[palilover 1]

How will it affect us if my husband went ahead and found work in another country? I know our consulate will chagne as it would not be Palestine, but can tehy just forward our current paperwork to another consulate? Or do we have to start over???? If this continues, I am worried about the financial hardship for me supporting myself alone here, supporting him (I explained this to his family and his family does not even care about that and there aer several members of his family including sil over here who are living on piles of money), and affording lawyer and further immigration fees. I already work around 60 hours a week so no time for a second job:( My husband needs to be workiing but there is no work in Paletsine as I said before. And he needs to eat too:(

Why would you want to add any more confusion to an already precarious case?

1. So we can be together again. This is what we both want most now of anything. but the circumstances are not making it easy for us. If I leave and go live with him to Palestine, it is a life of instability and his family is not supportive of supporting us ain anyway. We're on our own here. He's got no job there so no income. And me, even though I can fly through the checkpoints by wiggling my passport (as I seen this time, whoohoo) I do not have a degree so the chances of me finding a job in Israel are slim unless I wanna do ####### work like wash dishes at a restaurant or something. And even then, will that be enough to pay for legal fees back home? Probably not when you consider my commute daily from his village to Jerusalem and back and then food on top of that. The only option for us to be back together again is for him to leave Palestine and go to another country. And then I can follow when he gets table enough and we can wait for our visa then. I wish so much if I did not leave Palestine this time and be with him til this ends. Even when he was at the airport with me, he cried and said if he had a job, he would make it so I would not ahve to go back and we can wait for his visa there and go back together....

2. If the CO wants to be a ####### and accuse of fraud, how he going to do that if I go over there to live in Palestine or otherwise? The only issue with that is I would have to give up my job here which is the basis of the AOS.......so that is a no no.

I might be totally confused here, but didn't they ask for some paperwork/documentation? Sure it's possible they may wind up denying you - but from what you said - it looks as though they may just process the corrected paperwork and request the passport (although they would be justified with slapping him with mirepresentation). Why not just wait and see what comes of the submission of the corrected paperwork?

sure. But I've been told by people here in Boston to start thinking of backup plans just in case.

[Ta Ta 1]

sorry I asked

good luck on the toilet.