Catholic Church Versus Artificial Family Planning

[Staashi 371]

I'd actually like more statistics on why...I don't think the majority are for medical reasons. From the stats I am looking up, risk to mother or fetal health looks like a small percentage for overall abortions.

I'm a Catholic, but I do believe in birth control. I even believe in abortion...although I wish it didn't have to happen. I don't think my religious beliefs should create policy to prevent the actions of other people.

I wish that all babies would come into this world loved - but sadly, I'd be a Polyanna if I believed that to be true.

You would be surprised how many women actually have to abort based on health. It happens all the time. I've had two friends and one relative who have had to make this decision - they were more than 5 months along and two of the feti were tragically struck with birth defects, the other had to make her own life or death decision because her body was shutting down as a result of the pregnancy. She wasn't going to take that chance of dying for her baby.

Many people would be surprised to know that abortion is also the term given to miscarriages by the hospital. Your body aborts the fetus naturally. It can happen very late into the pregnancy...5 months into it. Something is wrong with the fetus and the body begins to shut the pregnancy cycle down. Actually, that is what almost all miscarriages are.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Many people would be surprised to know that abortion is also the term given to miscarriages by the hospital.

I did not know that. By that measure, each of my friends who has tried to get pregnant has had at least one abortion, some two.

[chri'stina 190]

on the last part of the wiki facts, I don't know if they were put in wrong or without breaks since the numbers make much more than 100%.

[almaty 19]

What is a miscarriage?

A miscarriage (spontaneous abortion) is any pregnancy that ends spontaneously before the fetus can survive

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

on the last part of the wiki facts, I don't know if they were put in wrong or without breaks since the numbers make much more than 100%.

Overlapping categories.

[Jenn! 918]

Many people would be surprised to know that abortion is also the term given to miscarriages by the hospital. Your body aborts the fetus naturally. It can happen very late into the pregnancy...5 months into it. Something is wrong with the fetus and the body begins to shut the pregnancy cycle down. Actually, that is what almost all miscarriages are.

Yes, I thought that first-term miscarriages only that are termed abortions, but later than that and it is a miscarriage. I would think that these sorts of abortions are not included in abortion statisitcs though?

[Staashi 371]

Many people would be surprised to know that abortion is also the term given to miscarriages by the hospital.

I did not know that. By that measure, each of my friends who has tried to get pregnant has had at least one abortion, some two.

It's the medical term that the hospital uses for a miscarriage. Many times women get freaked out when they see that on their medical records, because they think - I didn't have an abortion - I had a miscarriage. But your body aborts the pregnancy...abort=to terminate what is in progress.

[Saddle Bronc 124]

Many people would be surprised to know that abortion is also the term given to miscarriages by the hospital.

I did not know that. By that measure, each of my friends who has tried to get pregnant has had at least one abortion, some two.

Also, in earlier generations--such as those of my grandparents--the two terms were oft (incorrectly) used interchangeably.

[chri'stina 190]

on the last part of the wiki facts, I don't know if they were put in wrong or without breaks since the numbers make much more than 100%.

Overlapping categories.

true, my mind went blank for a few mins.

[no name 1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_t...s_for_abortions :

"In 2000, cases of rape or incest accounted for 1% of abortions.[8] Another study, in 1998, revealed that women reported the following reasons for choosing an abortion:[9]

* 25.5% Want to postpone childbearing

* 21.3% Cannot afford a baby

* 14.1% Has relationship problem or partner does not want pregnancy

* 12.2% Too young; parent(s) or other(s) object to pregnancy

* 10.8% Having a child will disrupt education or job

* 7.9% Want no (more) children

* 3.3% Risk to fetal health

* 2.8% Risk to maternal health

* 2.1% Other

That study is not specifically late term...

[chri'stina 190]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_t...s_for_abortions :

"In 2000, cases of rape or incest accounted for 1% of abortions.[8] Another study, in 1998, revealed that women reported the following reasons for choosing an abortion:[9]

* 25.5% Want to postpone childbearing

* 21.3% Cannot afford a baby

* 14.1% Has relationship problem or partner does not want pregnancy

* 12.2% Too young; parent(s) or other(s) object to pregnancy

* 10.8% Having a child will disrupt education or job

* 7.9% Want no (more) children

* 3.3% Risk to fetal health

* 2.8% Risk to maternal health

* 2.1% Other

That study is not specifically late term...

I know. A few posts ago I said it wasn't for medical reasons for the majority of all abortions (or I said abortions overall). I can agree that past a certain amt of weeks the stats show more for medical reasons (but still not all).

[Staashi 371]

Many people would be surprised to know that abortion is also the term given to miscarriages by the hospital. Your body aborts the fetus naturally. It can happen very late into the pregnancy...5 months into it. Something is wrong with the fetus and the body begins to shut the pregnancy cycle down. Actually, that is what almost all miscarriages are.

Yes, I thought that first-term miscarriages only that are termed abortions, but later than that and it is a miscarriage. I would think that these sorts of abortions are not included in abortion statisitcs though?

According to Wikipedia:

Miscarriage Terminology

Very early miscarriages - those which occur before the sixth week LMP (since the woman's Last Menstrual Period) are medically termed early pregnancy loss[2] or chemical pregnancy.[3] Miscarriages that occur after the sixth week LMP are medically termed clinical spontaneous abortion.[2]

In medical contexts, the word "abortion" refers to any process by which a pregnancy ends with the death and removal or expulsion of the fetus, regardless of whether it's spontaneous or intentionally induced. Many women who have had miscarriages, however, object to the term "abortion" in connection with their experience, as it is generally associated with induced abortions. In recent years there has been discussion in the medical community about avoiding the use of this term in favor of the less ambiguous term "miscarriage."[4]

Aside from that, these type of miscarriages/abortions are not included in the statistics. I wanted to point out that one's body can miscarry at any time...which typically demonstrates that late-term issues still do arise.

[Kevin and 10]

times have changed .... "go and multiply" ...

wonder if the church knows it's contributing to global warming and illegal aliens ...

And the pope is out speaking about GW.

[CaNdiD wiTcH 0]

times have changed .... "go and multiply" ...

wonder if the church knows it's contributing to global warming and illegal aliens ...

And the pope is out speaking about GW.

Perhaps he is unaware?

[Mags 112]

Many people would be surprised to know that abortion is also the term given to miscarriages by the hospital.

I did not know that. By that measure, each of my friends who has tried to get pregnant has had at least one abortion, some two.

It's the medical term that the hospital uses for a miscarriage. Many times women get freaked out when they see that on their medical records, because they think - I didn't have an abortion - I had a miscarriage. But your body aborts the pregnancy...abort=to terminate what is in progress.

I worked in a genetic lab and we did the genetic work up on miscarried fetuses. We always referred to them as abortions if it was natural. They were called terminations if done medically. If a woman had had lots of miscarriages, her medical terminology would refer to her as a "recurrent aborter".