Here's A Sad Story.

[Peikko 1,575]

Are you going to press for society to be charged Charles?

[Ban Hammer 13,656]

Are you going to press for society to be charged Charles?

why bother? and if i did, would you defend it?

[Peikko 1,575]

So, just another throw away comment then?

[Ban Hammer 13,656]

So, just another throw away comment then?

i throw it away, you pick it up. i consider it to be my contribution to the poor.

[Peikko 1,575]

That might be a TOS violation Charles, tut tut!

[Ban Hammer 13,656]

That might be a TOS violation Charles, tut tut!

i can't give to the needy on vj?

[Teacher Mark 53]

I can't believe I am actually in a position where I have to defend King a little but his name is only on there once. Unless I'm mistaken this one falls on the Prosecutors, who are worthless as well:

Dismissal after a delay of more than one year in presenting the charges to a grand jury or in filing an information against the defendant.

Evidently it runs in the family:

July 11, 2008

Mother of accused gunman arrested on battery charge

Valeria Lawrence, the mother of accused murderer Desmond Clark, was arrested today for allegedly battering the late Na'lisha Gravely - the woman Clark is accused of gunning down in the West Side Taco Bell on Saturday.

Lawrence, 43, was picked up by Charleston police on a warrant from May. The arresting officer, Patrolman Mark Petty, would not comment further.

According to a criminal complaint, the battery took place at 1617 Red Oak Street, an address listed as Clark's in another complaint charging him with punching an "ex-girlfriend" in the stomach.

Both incidents occurred on May 17 at the same address.

Kanawha magistrate Jack Pauley set a $1,000 bond on Lawrence. She paid $100 cash and was released.

Why was he able to "get off" so many times?:

WEST Virginians were shocked this week when a man with a long history of violence against 19-year-old Na'lisha Gravely gunned her down in the broom closet of a Taco Bell.

Why, people wondered, was Desmond Demetrius Clark even out on the streets?

How - given his history of violence against her, given his attack on a correctional officer, given the fact that police used a SWAT team when they had to approach him - could he have been roaming free?

What do you have to do to get locked up these days?

The justice system must explain in full.

Yes, it appears that Gravely alternately sought protection from Clark through the justice system, and protected him from it. But that does not let the justice system off the hook.

It also appears that the system failed to protect Gravely in part because the parts of the system don't communicate with each other.

Although Clark failed to appear on multiple court dates, he was repeatedly allowed to post bond.

Although he violated home confinement ordered by a magistrate, a circuit judge put him on home confinement again.

Then at the request of Clark's attorney, the judge took Clark off home confinement - so he could work as a security guard and attend parenting classes.

Given two years' probation March 4, Clark was charged with traffic misdemeanors on May 16. A magistrate released him on bond.

On May 17, Clark was charged with domestic battery for allegedly punching an unnamed ex-girlfriend in the stomach. The magistrate did not issue an arrest warrant, just a summons to appear July 14 for a hearing.

Na'lisha Gravely didn't live that long.

Supreme Court spokeswoman Jennifer Bundy said different courts - Clark was involved with the magistrate, circuit and family court in Kanawha County - use different computer systems.

Magistrates who arraigned Clark months ago might not have known he was a convicted felon on probation. They can't access those records via computer.

A Dunbar police officer who stopped Clark and Gravely earlier the day of the shooting might not have known that their being together put him in violation of a domestic violence protective order.

The high court appoints a fatality review team to look at cases that end in tragedies.

Much is expected of this review.

Informant?

Wednesday July 9, 2008

No way suspected shooter was confidential informant, officials say

by Justin D. Anderson

Daily Mail Capitol Reporter

by Zack Pettit

Daily Mail staff

Charleston Mayor Danny Jones and city law enforcement officials adamantly deny speculation that Desmond Demetrius Clark, the man accused of gunning down his girlfriend and child's mother at a West Side fast food restaurant, was a confidential informant working with police.

"It is just flat out not true and even hard to fathom," said Sgt. Steve Cooper, chief of detectives for the Charleston Police Department. "He's the furthest thing we'd use."

But the fact that Clark was a regular in the Kanawha courts yet always seemed to evade serious punishment left a lot of people wondering. Clark has been charged 17 times since his 18th birthday.

The most serious punishment for Clark was two years of probation, which he was ordered to begin in March after he pleaded guilty to felony drug possession, firing a gun within 500 feet of a dwelling, battery and domestic battery.

One source familiar with several of Clark's cases said arresting officers often asked for leniency for Clark because he was an informant.

But local officials and law enforcement leaders insist he was not working for them.

"He was neither a paid, continuous or sanctioned confidential informant for our police department or any police department that we know of," Jones said. "He had no connection to law enforcement that was anything but negative."

"He never was an informant for us," said Lt. Chuck Carpenter, who heads up the Metro Drug Unit. "He does not fit the profile of a confidential informant, period."

Carpenter said Clark wouldn't have been a good candidate to be an informant because of the violent nature of offenses he was often charged with - like battery, malicious wounding and kidnapping.

Charleston Police Chief Webster said his officers told him that Clark was not an informant for them.

"I'll tell you, I don't have any knowledge of it," Webster said. "They say, 'No.' When I called all three investigation divisions, they all said the same thing: 'He was a target for us.'"

Added Webster, "In my mind, it wouldn't be a terrific sin if he was," because police routinely use informants to nab drug dealers.

Webster echoed Carpenter's sentiments about the implausibility of Clark's being an informant because of his violent past.

"We try and have to stay away from people with a certain criminal history, like violence and thievery," he said. "Clearly we use different types of people ... but there are guidelines."

He said the credibility of informants is attacked in courtrooms and that prosecutors "really shy away" from using witnesses that have a criminal history like Clark's.

"A CI has to be credible and the testimony has to be admissible," Cooper said. "Hardened criminals like Desmond Clark are not candidates to become confidential informants."

Cooper said police use only informants with minor legal troubles in an effort to take down major criminals. He also said they all have to be registered with police.

Jones said there is a possibility that Clark could have been randomly used for his information during an arrest.

"Let's suppose on one of Clark's various journey through arrest he throws out some information to mitigate an arrest. We have no idea what one police officer may have done on the spot. The point is he wasn't sanctioned, he wasn't paid and he wasn't signed up."

Cooper said there wouldn't necessarily be documentation for something such an individual officer's discretion.

The mayor explained the reason for repeated lack of convictions and short jail stints for Clark was the result of "reluctant witnesses."

"Obviously one (witness) in particular, and that's the saddest part of all," Jones said about Nalisha Gravely. "We did everything we could and police did everything they could to lock him up."

Clark is charged with first-degree murder and is incarcerated at South Central Regional Jail.

[Niels Bohr 72]

Hmm...The women made a mistake, she was young and wanted a boyfriend. The consequences soon followed.

The guy is a irresponsibly horny #######.

You're kidding right? You're saying this whole thing can be chalked up to a young woman's mistake in wanting a boyfriend...and the guy being an "irresponsibyly horny #######"?!?!?

CONGRATULATIONS!!!

you got it wrong...again.

As for the story itself.... just .

I've seen a number of kids that follows a similar story. All of them fall into the peer pressure ####### (jealousy, gossiping, etc...). They then would get a boyfriend with disregard for school, only maintaining a minimum standard so they can pass school. Having Bs and Cs are the way to go to pass, not focusing on As! It's these kids mentality. You're wrong to say that I'm wrong because you probably may have been in this experience too!

[Heracles 417]

My opinion: Send the Judge King piece of ####### off to exile in Siberia. Torture and kill Desmond Clark. Televise the torture and death of Desmond Clark so that maybe a few as$holes will think twice before they commit any acts like Clark has.

The legal system is skewed in favor of the criminal. Then on top of that you have clown judges like that. Making a bad situation worse.

[Heracles 417]

I've seen a number of kids that follows a similar story. All of them fall into the peer pressure ####### (jealousy, gossiping, etc...). They then would get a boyfriend with disregard for school, only maintaining a minimum standard so they can pass school. Having Bs and Cs are the way to go to pass, not focusing on As! It's these kids mentality. You're wrong to say that I'm wrong because you probably may have been in this experience too!

All comes down to parenting and culture.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Okay, never mind. I was just a little upset when I wrote that. It's really not Desmond Clark's fault. It's society's fault. Mr. Clark should be let free....again. And if he does something like this again, we're really going to have to take a serious look at ourselves as a society.

But I think we should draw the line somewhere...maybe 200 strikes and you go to jail???

Don't try to justify your sadist response by making it one extreme or another. Your post was sadistic and sick.

Okay. What do you suggest then?

It's just surprising that you actually believe televising the torture and killing of someone will deter some other monster?

Torture and kill Desmond Clark. Televise the torture and death of Desmond Clark so that maybe a few as$holes will think twice before they commit any acts like Clark has.

just think your overwhelming sorrow didnt occur till you heard about it! These stories are so common everyday and yet you only care about the one you hear about. Get over it, ppl die all sorts of ways. Its sad and very messed up. Get over it, you have no control of what happens on this planet! Geeeeez! ppl die in the thousands everyday! you gonna get all wishy washy when you hear about one?

your caring is very cheap and so fake! Your born, you live, and you die! its very simple! sheeeeesh

[Teacher Mark 53]

just think your overwhelming sorrow didnt occur till you heard about it! These stories are so common everyday and yet you only care about the one you hear about. Get over it, ppl die all sorts of ways. Its sad and very messed up. Get over it, you have no control of what happens on this planet! Geeeeez! ppl die in the thousands everyday! you gonna get all wishy washy when you hear about one?

your caring is very cheap and so fake! Your born, you live, and you die! its very simple! sheeeeesh

O.J.? Is that you?

[Sassy1natl 0]

just think your overwhelming sorrow didnt occur till you heard about it! These stories are so common everyday and yet you only care about the one you hear about. Get over it, ppl die all sorts of ways. Its sad and very messed up. Get over it, you have no control of what happens on this planet! Geeeeez! ppl die in the thousands everyday! you gonna get all wishy washy when you hear about one?

your caring is very cheap and so fake! Your born, you live, and you die! its very simple! sheeeeesh

O.J.? Is that you?

(heehee)

[linapolifasetica 0]

just think your overwhelming sorrow didnt occur till you heard about it! These stories are so common everyday and yet you only care about the one you hear about. Get over it, ppl die all sorts of ways. Its sad and very messed up. Get over it, you have no control of what happens on this planet! Geeeeez! ppl die in the thousands everyday! you gonna get all wishy washy when you hear about one?

your caring is very cheap and so fake! Your born, you live, and you die! its very simple! sheeeeesh

O.J.? Is that you

jajajajajajaja Honestly though that comment was a bit cold hearted! ppl do die everyday but man they don't have to die like that. It is obvious that could have been prevented...I mean she could have helped in preventing it but that doesn't mean she deserved to die in such a manner and I really hope the best for her little boy who will now grow up with no mother.

Edited July 12, 2008 by linapolifasetica

[ronjie 0]

Hmm...The women made a mistake, she was young and wanted a boyfriend. The consequences soon followed.

The guy is a irresponsibly horny #######.

I don't think being young and searching for love is a mistake, and I wouldn't say that the discription of the guy being irresponsible is accurate either!! now he is a scumbag womanizer, who deserves to be totured till death. the system and her family failed her.. there is no way on earth it would ever go that far if it was my sister being abused. I would have took the law into my own hands...