Where is the outrage?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Interesting topic and one I never really thought of even though I live very near the disaster areas.

Maybe one reason the midwest takes it in stride is because this is not the first time, nor the last time we will flood. Ironically, when I think back to the worst flooding I can remember, we still didn't have the celebrities or the president come tour or anything. The cities of Missouri banded together to help one another in sand bagging, rescuing, moving whole towns, and opening their homes in order to help one another. FEMA stepped in at the end.

And, no, I never hear of any rioting or looting and I hear very little complaining about any of it.

There's no outrage because a vast majority of the people in the midwest have taken responsibility upon themselves. They know that nobody can control the rain. They take what measures they can to prevent flooding based on what money's available. Sometimes it's not enough. Does anything get done when you sit on your a$ complaining, waiting for someone else to take care of your problems. Most Midwesterners know that this absolutely NEVER works. Personal accountability is a midwestern value.

In other parts of the country though, people have more of a victim mentality that's been instilled into them...it's always someone else's fault...i.e. it's the government's fault this natural disaster happened and I'm going to sit here until they fix everything. And while the government and volunteers who take off work and come in from other parts of the country flow in to help, I think I'll keep complaining. Hell, maybe I'll even do some looting. That'll make me feel better about the government screwing me over like they just did by allowing this natural disaster to happen.

I think I may love you! Brilliant reply.

Seriously? His whole premise is based on stereotypes.

That was my reaction also. There's no facts being offered - just assumptions about people from the South and generalisations about how they behave.

[tmma 467]

Ah yes, take responsibility for yourselves you lily livered (that's probably not pc) 'victims' of natural disasters. That earth quake really wasn't so bad, that tsunami was just a little wave, that hurricane was just a little storm. I blame those whingers from the third world. They never do anything for themselves, always have their caps in hand looking for a handout. Honestly we should just nuke anyone who doesn't sing yankee doodle dandee when they get hit by a freak of nature!

Alot of the tragic loss of life during Katrina was down to lack of personal responsibility on the part of non-evacuees, bad organization and disaster response mechanisms at a LOCAL government level and chaotic FEMA organization, response and structure.

There was at least a 4 day lead time on that hurricane. Not long, true, but a lot longer than the victims of tsunamis and earthquakes have. Here in a non-third world country with a strong communications infrastructure, advanced meteorological forecasting technology and at least some sort of disaster preparedness plans, the loss of life after Katrina was partly down to some people waiting for the Govt to just "do something"..........And we all know where that gets you in most nations.

Interestingly, tsunamis and quakes happen frequently in countries [ some 3rd world] that have no widespread communications system, no enforceable disaster preparedness plan-yet how many of their citizens blame their Govt for the loss of life after their disasters- or maybe it's just not publisized...I don't know.

All I do know is that the non-evacuees in New Orleans had lead-time, they were told this was an impending catastrophic event and they CHOSE to stay right in it's path.

[Sister Fracas 5]

Seriously? His whole premise is based on stereotypes.

Open your eyes Steven!! We in the Midwest are AWESOME! There is no crime, no welfare abusers, and we all bake apple pie.

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It's kind of ironic, given how the midwest as a whole is a leach on the rest of the country. They'll have a leg to stand on debates like these when they pay more into the treasury than they take, like California or New York or New Jersey or Florida. Until then, they shoudl STFU with their little hard working mythology.

[Sister Fracas 5]

It's kind of ironic, given how the midwest as a whole is a leach on the rest of the country. They'll have a leg to stand on debates like these when they pay more into the treasury than they take, like California or New York or New Jersey or Florida. Until then, they shoudl STFU with their little hard working mythology.

YOU STFU you east coast persian shoe!

Hey speaking of Joisey, how far are you from the Sand Competion in Belmar?

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Hey speaking of Joisey, how far are you from the Sand Competion in Belmar?

45-50 miles

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Ah yes, take responsibility for yourselves you lily livered (that's probably not pc) 'victims' of natural disasters. That earth quake really wasn't so bad, that tsunami was just a little wave, that hurricane was just a little storm. I blame those whingers from the third world. They never do anything for themselves, always have their caps in hand looking for a handout. Honestly we should just nuke anyone who doesn't sing yankee doodle dandee when they get hit by a freak of nature!

Alot of the tragic loss of life during Katrina was down to lack of personal responsibility on the part of non-evacuees, bad organization and disaster response mechanisms at a LOCAL government level and chaotic FEMA organization, response and structure.

There was at least a 4 day lead time on that hurricane. Not long, true, but a lot longer than the victims of tsunamis and earthquakes have. Here in a non-third world country with a strong communications infrastructure, advanced meteorological forecasting technology and at least some sort of disaster preparedness plans, the loss of life after Katrina was partly down to some people waiting for the Govt to just "do something"..........And we all know where that gets you in most nations.

Interestingly, tsunamis and quakes happen frequently in countries [ some 3rd world] that have no widespread communications system, no enforceable disaster preparedness plan-yet how many of their citizens blame their Govt for the loss of life after their disasters- or maybe it's just not publisized...I don't know.

All I do know is that the non-evacuees in New Orleans had lead-time, they were told this was an impending catastrophic event and they CHOSE to stay right in it's path.

In 3rd world countries it isn't publicised because rural (typically subsistence agriculture) populations in places such as Bangladesh (where storm surge flooding has killed up to 300,000,000 in some notable incidents - don't have much of a political voice in their own destiny. Certainly not to hold the government accountable. Generally why so many relief operations in these countries are dependent on foreign aid.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Lets have a moratorium on stereotypes....or at least try not to build an argument based on stereotypes.

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Lets have a moratorium on stereotypes....or at least try not to build an argument based on stereotypes.

shuddup you gay hippy

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Lets have a moratorium on stereotypes....or at least try not to build an argument based on stereotypes.

shuddup you gay hippy

Pass me that yummy mango shake please.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Lets have a moratorium on stereotypes....or at least try not to build an argument based on stereotypes.

shuddup you gay hippy

Pass me that yummy mango shake please.

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[tmma 467]

Ah yes, take responsibility for yourselves you lily livered (that's probably not pc) 'victims' of natural disasters. That earth quake really wasn't so bad, that tsunami was just a little wave, that hurricane was just a little storm. I blame those whingers from the third world. They never do anything for themselves, always have their caps in hand looking for a handout. Honestly we should just nuke anyone who doesn't sing yankee doodle dandee when they get hit by a freak of nature!

Alot of the tragic loss of life during Katrina was down to lack of personal responsibility on the part of non-evacuees, bad organization and disaster response mechanisms at a LOCAL government level and chaotic FEMA organization, response and structure.

There was at least a 4 day lead time on that hurricane. Not long, true, but a lot longer than the victims of tsunamis and earthquakes have. Here in a non-third world country with a strong communications infrastructure, advanced meteorological forecasting technology and at least some sort of disaster preparedness plans, the loss of life after Katrina was partly down to some people waiting for the Govt to just "do something"..........And we all know where that gets you in most nations.

Interestingly, tsunamis and quakes happen frequently in countries [ some 3rd world] that have no widespread communications system, no enforceable disaster preparedness plan-yet how many of their citizens blame their Govt for the loss of life after their disasters- or maybe it's just not publisized...I don't know.

All I do know is that the non-evacuees in New Orleans had lead-time, they were told this was an impending catastrophic event and they CHOSE to stay right in it's path.

In 3rd world countries it isn't publicised because rural (typically subsistence agriculture) populations in places such as Bangladesh (where storm surge flooding has killed up to 300,000,000 in some notable incidents - don't have much of a political voice in their own destiny. Certainly not to hold the government accountable. Generally why so many relief operations in these countries are dependent on foreign aid.

[Sister Fracas 5]

Lets have a moratorium on stereotypes....or at least try not to build an argument based on stereotypes.

shuddup you gay hippy

you called.... ?

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

Steve, were you just waiting for someone to be called a hippy so you could post a picture with boobies

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Ah yes, take responsibility for yourselves you lily livered (that's probably not pc) 'victims' of natural disasters. That earth quake really wasn't so bad, that tsunami was just a little wave, that hurricane was just a little storm. I blame those whingers from the third world. They never do anything for themselves, always have their caps in hand looking for a handout. Honestly we should just nuke anyone who doesn't sing yankee doodle dandee when they get hit by a freak of nature!

Alot of the tragic loss of life during Katrina was down to lack of personal responsibility on the part of non-evacuees, bad organization and disaster response mechanisms at a LOCAL government level and chaotic FEMA organization, response and structure.

There was at least a 4 day lead time on that hurricane. Not long, true, but a lot longer than the victims of tsunamis and earthquakes have. Here in a non-third world country with a strong communications infrastructure, advanced meteorological forecasting technology and at least some sort of disaster preparedness plans, the loss of life after Katrina was partly down to some people waiting for the Govt to just "do something"..........And we all know where that gets you in most nations.

Interestingly, tsunamis and quakes happen frequently in countries [ some 3rd world] that have no widespread communications system, no enforceable disaster preparedness plan-yet how many of their citizens blame their Govt for the loss of life after their disasters- or maybe it's just not publisized...I don't know.

All I do know is that the non-evacuees in New Orleans had lead-time, they were told this was an impending catastrophic event and they CHOSE to stay right in it's path.

In 3rd world countries it isn't publicised because rural (typically subsistence agriculture) populations in places such as Bangladesh (where storm surge flooding has killed up to 300,000,000 in some notable incidents - don't have much of a political voice in their own destiny. Certainly not to hold the government accountable. Generally why so many relief operations in these countries are dependent on foreign aid.

I would also suggest that the same political apathy holds true for poor communities in the US.