Black in America

[Chica Yeyé 41]

I guess making more Speedy Gonzalez cartoons doesn't count

i hate latinos

yup - they work too much and have strong family ties and #######. EEEEEWWWWWW. Disgusting.

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

I used Black Like Me in some of the courses I taught in Edmonton. It is an excellent resource!

You should also teach White Like Me, you know, for balance to satisfy the "PC gone mad" crowd

White Like Me

(no You Tube available, so you have to watch the ad)

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Who calls Black British people African American? (although the super-fine Idris Elba is does play one on TV) I've never heard it myself. And Jamaicans are always caleld, well, Jamaicans. (And Haitians Haitians, and Dominicans Dominicans etc etc)

I don't know who these super uptight people are, but it's not anyone I know. Besides if someone prefers "African American" that's what I will call them, just like I will call them "Bob" if they prefer that over Robert. It's simple politeness.

I had no idea that he was British until I saw him in that old C4 series Ultraviolet.

[chri'stina 190]

I've never heard of ppl in England being called African Americans...

As for the African American term, I am mixed. I can see how black people could be annoyed to hear since it's just a color. But if someone black wants to just be called black, I will do that. If they want to be called African American, I'll do that too.

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

Who calls Black British people African American? (although the super-fine Idris Elba is does play one on TV) I've never heard it myself. And Jamaicans are always caleld, well, Jamaicans. (And Haitians Haitians, and Dominicans Dominicans etc etc)

I don't know who these super uptight people are, but it's not anyone I know. Besides if someone prefers "African American" that's what I will call them, just like I will call them "Bob" if they prefer that over Robert. It's simple politeness.

I had no idea that he was British until I saw him in that old C4 series Ultraviolet.

I know - I saw him in an interview. I was kind of blown away. Brilliant actor.

[Chica Yeyé 41]

I've never heard of ppl in England being called African Americans...

As for the African American term, I am mixed. I can see how black people could be annoyed to hear since it's just a color. But if someone black wants to just be called black, I will do that. If they want to be called African American, I'll do that too.

Ditto - self-determination and self-definition works for me. I love my friends here in the Latin America forum, but I am NOT 'Hispanic', OR 'Latina'. I am Mexican - that is how I see myself.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Who calls Black British people African American? (although the super-fine Idris Elba is does play one on TV) I've never heard it myself. And Jamaicans are always caleld, well, Jamaicans. (And Haitians Haitians, and Dominicans Dominicans etc etc)

I don't know who these super uptight people are, but it's not anyone I know. Besides if someone prefers "African American" that's what I will call them, just like I will call them "Bob" if they prefer that over Robert. It's simple politeness.

I had no idea that he was British until I saw him in that old C4 series Ultraviolet.

I know - I saw him in an interview. I was kind of blown away. Brilliant actor.

Incidentally he's from Sierra Leone originall - or his family was at any rate.

[Sister Fracas 5]

I've never heard of ppl in England being called African Americans...

As for the African American term, I am mixed. I can see how black people could be annoyed to hear since it's just a color. But if someone black wants to just be called black, I will do that. If they want to be called African American, I'll do that too.

Are you annoyed to be called white though?

[PlatyPius 5]

I've never heard of ppl in England being called African Americans...

As for the African American term, I am mixed. I can see how black people could be annoyed to hear since it's just a color. But if someone black wants to just be called black, I will do that. If they want to be called African American, I'll do that too.

Ditto - self-determination and self-definition works for me. I love my friends here in the Latin America forum, but I am NOT 'Hispanic', OR 'Latina'. I am Mexican - that is how I see myself.

Bless you.

One of the workers at Foxconn when I worked there used to wear a T-Shirt that said "Not Hispanic. Can't Speak Latin. I'm MEXICAN, pendejo."

I HATE broad terms like "Latino", "Native American", etc.

[noemij 0]

I've never heard of ppl in England being called African Americans...

As for the African American term, I am mixed. I can see how black people could be annoyed to hear since it's just a color. But if someone black wants to just be called black, I will do that. If they want to be called African American, I'll do that too.

The thing is that it is just a color for you (and for me, since I am black --- not African-American), but to others, it's a word that they feel has a negative connotation.

[Chica Yeyé 41]

I've never heard of ppl in England being called African Americans...

As for the African American term, I am mixed. I can see how black people could be annoyed to hear since it's just a color. But if someone black wants to just be called black, I will do that. If they want to be called African American, I'll do that too.

Ditto - self-determination and self-definition works for me. I love my friends here in the Latin America forum, but I am NOT 'Hispanic', OR 'Latina'. I am Mexican - that is how I see myself.

Bless you.

One of the workers at Foxconn when I worked there used to wear a T-Shirt that said "Not Hispanic. Can't Speak Latin. I'm MEXICAN, pendejo."

I HATE broad terms like "Latino", "Native American", etc.

Platy, you just used my favorite word:pendejo , best insult ever.

Indeed, pan-defining which encompass a whole geographical region (i.e. "Asians"), a linguistic family ("Latin"), a race and the like are so flawed and pejorative it's not funny: as if amongst people from Asia there were NO differences, or as if people who speak Spanish could immediately be lumped into one.

[Alex+R 0]

Aren't there a million documentaries about how bad the Irish had it when they immigrated here, and other groups too? Jewish? So those are "white" documentaries. But a key word in any white documentary about people from another place would probably be immigrant. Not a slave forced over and treated like an animal, which to me makes the black experience a different thing all together. Yes it's in the past and guilt shouldn't be the main topic, but it still makes the experience different.

Yet, when the Irish and Jews came over, they were not considered white. As they got money and education, they "became" white.

Also true for some other groups.

"White" is not a race. There is not "white experience" the way being black in America can be a specific experience.

It's just a term used in the United States to denote "majority group in power." As long as you come with relatively light skin, you'll be admitted eventually. Even if you look different (many Jews.)

There is no such thing as white history or white culture. Why don't people get that?

eta: holy sh!t Len, that cat is freaking cute

[jundp 191]

isn't pretty much of the stablishment white anyway? at least in America?

Perdon, mi hermano Pedro. Yo no soy blanca. Yo soy rosada. Gracias, pero es verdad...soy muy rosada y a veces roja (cuando estoy tomando el sol).

I used Black Like Me in some of the courses I taught in Edmonton. It is an excellent resource!

You should also teach White Like Me, you know, for balance to satisfy the "PC gone mad" crowd

White Like Me

(no You Tube available, so you have to watch the ad)

[Chica Yeyé 41]

Aren't there a million documentaries about how bad the Irish had it when they immigrated here, and other groups too? Jewish? So those are "white" documentaries. But a key word in any white documentary about people from another place would probably be immigrant. Not a slave forced over and treated like an animal, which to me makes the black experience a different thing all together. Yes it's in the past and guilt shouldn't be the main topic, but it still makes the experience different.

Yet, when the Irish and Jews came over, they were not considered white. As they got money and education, they "became" white.

Also true for some other groups.

"White" is not a race. There is not "white experience" the way being black in America can be a specific experience.

It's just a term used in the United States to denote "majority group in power." As long as you come with relatively light skin, you'll be admitted eventually. Even if you look different (many Jews.)

There is no such thing as white history or white culture. Why don't people get that?

eta: holy sh!t Len, that cat is freaking cute

So you are alive, eh??????? Good to see your Jewish self around.

See Frankenberger, Ruth:

Displacing Whiteness: Essays in Social and Cultural Criticism

OR my personal fave:

White Women, Race Matters

isn't pretty much of the stablishment white anyway? at least in America?

Perdon, mi hermano Pedro. Yo no soy blanca. Yo soy rosada. Gracias, pero es verdad...soy muy rosada y a veces roja (cuando estoy tomando el sol).

Sister jundp, you are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO overboard today

[Alex+R 0]

Oo, thanks! Will save for more intellectual times.