Wondering

[trinket 30]

I am wondering about a hypothetical situation, so here I go.

According to the rules for married couple, no where it is being said that they need to meet up in person within the last 2 years or basically there is no mention of meeting in person.

Now the question is what if the couple never meets in person but does a proxy marriage? Marriage is legal by every means, so will it be approved at least at the USCIS and also at NVC level for either K-3 or CR-1 visa?

We all know the consulate level is unpredictable at best and it will all depend upon the consular if he/she feels the said relationship is valid or not.

This isn’t anything serious, just I am curious about how things work with VISA and apparently I have a lot of time to kill

[ManilaIdaho 2]

I am wondering about a hypothetical situation, so here I go.

According to the rules for married couple, no where it is being said that they need to meet up in person within the last 2 years or basically there is no mention of meeting in person.

Now the question is what if the couple never meets in person but does a proxy marriage? Marriage is legal by every means, so will it be approved at least at the USCIS and also at NVC level for either K-3 or CR-1 visa?

We all know the consulate level is unpredictable at best and it will all depend upon the consular if he/she feels the said relationship is valid or not.

This isn’t anything serious, just I am curious about how things work with VISA and apparently I have a lot of time to kill

I have done some research and here's what i've found from USCIS.GOV

[trinket 30]

(A) Proxy Marriages . Section 101(a)(35) of the Act provides that the term "spouse", "wife", or "husband" does not include a spouse, wife, or husband by reason of any marriage ceremony where the contracting parties thereto are not physically present in the presence of each other, unless the marriage has been consummated. (Note: Consummation of a marriage can only occur after the ceremony, there is no such thing as “pre-consummation” of a marriage.)

Thanks for that link,

So basically you can have a proxy marriage, but you do need to "consummate" the said marriage before filling.

So does that mean that if a couple did have proxy marriage, they need to provide additional proof of evidence that their marriage has been consummated AFTER the said wedding date?

[laurarajesh 0]

(A) Proxy Marriages . Section 101(a)(35) of the Act provides that the term "spouse", "wife", or "husband" does not include a spouse, wife, or husband by reason of any marriage ceremony where the contracting parties thereto are not physically present in the presence of each other, unless the marriage has been consummated. (Note: Consummation of a marriage can only occur after the ceremony, there is no such thing as “pre-consummation” of a marriage.)

Thanks for that link,

So basically you can have a proxy marriage, but you do need to "consummate" the said marriage before filling.

So does that mean that if a couple did have proxy marriage, they need to provide additional proof of evidence that their marriage has been consummated AFTER the said wedding date?

yes friend

i did proxy marrage( absence marriage) and after that my wifecame india (consummate)

we also talk embassy and federal thay said it valied as per us law. we did marriage and my we file PIO card for my wife so she can come india without visa. when she got pio card it mean GOV OF INDIA accepeted that she my wife and issue her PIO card. so we not ever regestered indian marriage cermony.

thanks

if any one have more information pls descuse here

thanks

[S_AL_ 1]

I am wondering about a hypothetical situation, so here I go.

According to the rules for married couple, no where it is being said that they need to meet up in person within the last 2 years or basically there is no mention of meeting in person.

Now the question is what if the couple never meets in person but does a proxy marriage? Marriage is legal by every means, so will it be approved at least at the USCIS and also at NVC level for either K-3 or CR-1 visa?

We all know the consulate level is unpredictable at best and it will all depend upon the consular if he/she feels the said relationship is valid or not.

This isn’t anything serious, just I am curious about how things work with VISA and apparently I have a lot of time to kill

I have done some research and here's what i've found from USCIS.GOV

Thanks a lot for that link.

[trinket 30]

my we file PIO card for my wife so she can come india without visa

I was going through PIO and it seems to applicable to people who has at least some root back to India, so did your wife had any relatives from her father's or mother's side of the family who were Indians or did she get PIO solely on the basis that she is married to an Indian?

[indianheart 2]

my we file PIO card for my wife so she can come india without visa

I was going through PIO and it seems to applicable to people who has at least some root back to India, so did your wife had any relatives from her father's or mother's side of the family who were Indians or did she get PIO solely on the basis that she is married to an Indian?

looks like spouse of indian is eligible:

http://www.indianembassy.org/policy/PIO/In...uction_PIO.html

[trinket 30]

Thanks Indianheart,

Just checked that site, would be nice if my husband can get it

Going to ask him to apply for it

[*JG* 2]

Wow....seems like a big change for someone to marry someone they have never met/have not seen in years, and then move to a completely different country on top of it all, leaving behind everyone they know.

I wish you the very best in that.

[trinket 30]

Lol, Jomo's girl, I am not in that position.

As I said its a hypothetical question, but I am glad I asked this question, because I got to know about PIO for Indian citizens and their spouses.

Edited July 7, 2008 by silent

[indianheart 2]

when I went back to India to marry I had gotten a 10 yr visa so make travel easier for me...it is actually cheaper then the PIO card. I will consider the PIO card when my visa is to expire (if you noticed the PIO card expires in 15 yrs) at this time my husband should have his citizenship and be needing to apply for PIO too.

[trinket 30]

We have been looking for entry visa, that is 5 years multiple visa, allows the USC to work or live. But PIO options sounds good too, will have to talk to hubby and see what he decides.

Think when your husband will need his PIO, do go for OIC instead, with OIC, he can live more than 180 days without informing the authorities.