RFE ~ Request for Evidence

[Irish Lass 1]

I received a letter yesterday (I-797E, Notice of Action) requesting more evidence on my I-751 application.

We have until August 8, 2008 to submit everything. I read here before about how USCIS prefer to have the paperwork, but after searching and reading many posts I can not find what the way is. I 'think' it should be in a folder that binds all pages from the top instead of the side. Is this correct? And if so, what is that type of binder called?

So now I have to go find all the info they want and get it together. If I had only found this forum before I submitted the I-751 I would have been way more prepared to begin with. But at least this time I can hopefully get it as they want because of all the helpful advise here.

Thank you

[Cassie 8]

Just clip it all together with a paper clip or binder clip. They will then take the evidence you send in and arrange the way they want and punch holes in it where they want. There's no need to get fancy.

[Kathryn41 3,205]

You can just follow Cassie's advice . What you are thinking of are ACCO fasteners. What USCIS does is take your information, two hole punches it at top and puts them into ACCO file folders. Good luck with the RFE and I hope you get a speedy approval right afterwards.

[honeyblonde 0]

There is a section on here that addresses RFEs:

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/men...00045f3d6a1RCRD

[Irish Lass 1]

Thank you so much for responding

Yes, the ACCO fasteners are what I was trying to remember, but could not find where I had read about them. The link is great, thank you for that.

[wifey246 0]

I received a letter yesterday (I-797E, Notice of Action) requesting more evidence on my I-751 application.

We have until August 8, 2008 to submit everything. I read here before about how USCIS prefer to have the paperwork, but after searching and reading many posts I can not find what the way is. I 'think' it should be in a folder that binds all pages from the top instead of the side. Is this correct? And if so, what is that type of binder called?

So now I have to go find all the info they want and get it together. If I had only found this forum before I submitted the I-751 I would have been way more prepared to begin with. But at least this time I can hopefully get it as they want because of all the helpful advise here.

Thank you

Hi, do you mind sharing what the RFE was about? Did USCIS specify what they want? What additional evidences are you going to submit?

Thanks.

[Irish Lass 1]

Hi, do you mind sharing what the RFE was about? Did USCIS specify what they want? What additional evidences are you going to submit?

Thanks.

I don't mind at all I will type it all out exactly as written in the letter. Any comments from me are in red.

They requested as follows:

IDENTITY DOCUMENT: Please submit a photocopy of the Department of Motor Vehicle issued driver's license and/or identity card for each party to the qualifying marriage.

I already sent this with the I-751 application.

EVIDENCE OF GOOD FAITH MARRIAGE: In order to assist is establishing your eligibity for rempval of your conditional status, it is requested that you submit additional documentation. Please submit any or all of the following documents. This list is not all inclusive of the type of evidence that may be submitted for consideration.

* FINANCIAL RECORDS: In order to assist in establishing your eligibility for removal of conditiona; status, you may submit evidence of joint ownership of assests and joint responsibility for liabilities for the past two years. Such evidence may include but is not limited to the following:

I submitted a copy of our 2008 tax returns with original I-751 application.

*Copies of your State and Federal tax returns for 2006 and 2007. Include also, all required schedules, statments and any attachments such as W-2 records for conditional resident and petioning spouse.

* Copies of morgage aggrements or deeds showing joint ownership of assests or property or joint tenancy of a common residence.

I submitted a copy of our lease with both names on it with original application.

* Documentation showing commingling of fiancial resources such as complete copies of bank statments showing joint savings accounts and/or checking accounts.

I submitted copies of our joint bank account spanning over the last 2 years. But I only sent the fist page of the statments that had out names and addresses on it. I did not send complete copies of the full bank statments, thinking that was too much personal information... guess I was wrong on that one.

* Copies of loan documents such as car loans, home improvment loans, business loans etc.

We do not have any loans, so I wasn't able to send anything like this.

* Any other documentaion which shows that the marriage was not entered into in order to evade the Immigration Laws of the United States.

I really do not know what this means??

* RESIDENCE: In order to establish eligibility for removal of your conditional status, you must submit evidence of your communal residence for the past two years. Such evidence may include but is not limited to the following:

* Complete copies of rental lease(s) or rental aggreement(s) showing joint tenancy at a common residence signed by you, your spouse and the owner(s) of the property (or the property manager).

I sent them copies of our leases, but only the page that has the signatures and address, not the entire lease copy.

* Copies of utility bills such as telephone, gas, electric, water, cable etc. or other statments issued in both your names indicating your residential address.

All our utility bills are in seperate names, but come to the same address. Some are in his name and some are in my name. I sent copies of the bills anyway to show we are both at the same address.

* Any other documentaion which shows that the marriage was not entered into in order to evade the Immigration Laws of the United States.

STATMENT: Submit a statment in your own words describing how, when and where you met your spouse. In this statment, include significant details of your courtship, the events of your wedding including names of the guests and names of the witnesses. Your statment should include detailed information regarding memorable moments of your marriage. Please list the places where you resided together. In your statment please indicate the nature of your employment as well as the nature of your spouse's employment.

[wifey246 0]

Hi, do you mind sharing what the RFE was about? Did USCIS specify what they want? What additional evidences are you going to submit?

Thanks.

I don't mind at all I will type it all out exactly as written in the letter. Any comments from me are in red.

They requested as follows:

IDENTITY DOCUMENT: Please submit a photocopy of the Department of Motor Vehicle issued driver's license and/or identity card for each party to the qualifying marriage.

I already sent this with the I-751 application.

EVIDENCE OF GOOD FAITH MARRIAGE: In order to assist is establishing your eligibity for rempval of your conditional status, it is requested that you submit additional documentation. Please submit any or all of the following documents. This list is not all inclusive of the type of evidence that may be submitted for consideration.

* FINANCIAL RECORDS: In order to assist in establishing your eligibility for removal of conditiona; status, you may submit evidence of joint ownership of assests and joint responsibility for liabilities for the past two years. Such evidence may include but is not limited to the following:

I submitted a copy of our 2008 tax returns with original I-751 application.

*Copies of your State and Federal tax returns for 2006 and 2007. Include also, all required schedules, statments and any attachments such as W-2 records for conditional resident and petioning spouse.

* Copies of morgage aggrements or deeds showing joint ownership of assests or property or joint tenancy of a common residence.

I submitted a copy of our lease with both names on it with original application.

* Documentation showing commingling of fiancial resources such as complete copies of bank statments showing joint savings accounts and/or checking accounts.

I submitted copies of our joint bank account spanning over the last 2 years. But I only sent the fist page of the statments that had out names and addresses on it. I did not send complete copies of the full bank statments, thinking that was too much personal information... guess I was wrong on that one.

* Copies of loan documents such as car loans, home improvment loans, business loans etc.

We do not have any loans, so I wasn't able to send anything like this.

* Any other documentaion which shows that the marriage was not entered into in order to evade the Immigration Laws of the United States.

I really do not know what this means??

* RESIDENCE: In order to establish eligibility for removal of your conditional status, you must submit evidence of your communal residence for the past two years. Such evidence may include but is not limited to the following:

* Complete copies of rental lease(s) or rental aggreement(s) showing joint tenancy at a common residence signed by you, your spouse and the owner(s) of the property (or the property manager).

I sent them copies of our leases, but only the page that has the signatures and address, not the entire lease copy.

* Copies of utility bills such as telephone, gas, electric, water, cable etc. or other statments issued in both your names indicating your residential address.

All our utility bills are in seperate names, but come to the same address. Some are in his name and some are in my name. I sent copies of the bills anyway to show we are both at the same address.

* Any other documentaion which shows that the marriage was not entered into in order to evade the Immigration Laws of the United States.

STATMENT: Submit a statment in your own words describing how, when and where you met your spouse. In this statment, include significant details of your courtship, the events of your wedding including names of the guests and names of the witnesses. Your statment should include detailed information regarding memorable moments of your marriage. Please list the places where you resided together. In your statment please indicate the nature of your employment as well as the nature of your spouse's employment.

Thank you! This is very informative.

I didn't send photocopies of our driver's licenses. I didin't know that it was required. Uh-oh, should I expect an RFE?

So, you are going to send :

-photocopy of driver's licenses (already sent in the original submission)

-2 year's tax return (original submission has 1 year)

-Full bank statements (original submission has first pages only)

-full lease agreement document (original submission has signature pages only)

-utility bills

-other documentation (did u send pictures? affidavits?)

-statement

I didn't know that they need the information in the STATEMENT part. This is good info for those who have not submitted. They can take the extra step to avoid the inconvenience of an RFE.

I wish USCIS inlcuded this in their list the first place. I'm sure everybody is willing and happy to write their stories (most of us have been doing it in these fourms anyways ). Really, if they know what they want to see, why don't they just spell it all out and save all of us and themselves a lot of time, money and work.

Oh well, that's what makes this journey so bumpy and stressful and exhilirating.

Ooooh the adrenaline rush -- there's a letter in the mail!!! an email from CRIS!! yes, a touch!!

Nothing compares

Edited July 7, 2008 by wifey246

[AussieDude 0]

That statement part doesn't appear in all RFEs (at least not that I've heard of so far, anyone else see it in their RFE?). For the most part, the RFEs seem to be standard and not personalised, so they could indeed request things that were already in the initial submission.

I think they look at the totality of the submission, and make a decision on whether or not to send the RFE, specifics vary from case to case (probably depends on the 'niceness' of the officer adjudicating the case). For example, I sent in our tax returns, without the W2s, I could get an RFE requesting the transcripts, but I've heard of people who did the same and were approved with no issues. Many of us have sent in only the first pages of our bank account statements, and have had no issues. If the overall picture looks favourable, even though individual parts of the submission are not complete in themselves, they will probably look favourably at you. If your adjudicating officer is a #######, he/she might want to know daily details of your marriage for the last two years.

[purpleme 0]

I received a letter yesterday (I-797E, Notice of Action) requesting more evidence on my I-751 application.

We have until August 8, 2008 to submit everything. I read here before about how USCIS prefer to have the paperwork, but after searching and reading many posts I can not find what the way is. I 'think' it should be in a folder that binds all pages from the top instead of the side. Is this correct? And if so, what is that type of binder called?

So now I have to go find all the info they want and get it together. If I had only found this forum before I submitted the I-751 I would have been way more prepared to begin with. But at least this time I can hopefully get it as they want because of all the helpful advise here.

Thank you

I had almost the same letter for RFE and I just wonder if they approve your evidence ??? How was your marriage statement??? They did not ask for my tax returns , I dont know should I send them again or not??

Any help will be appriciated,

thanks

[lisaf 0]

IDENTITY DOCUMENT: Please submit a photocopy of the Department of Motor Vehicle issued driver's license and/or identity card for each party to the qualifying marriage.

I'm also curious if anyone knows more about the above??? Why aren't these asked for in the instructions if they are necessary? And why each? why would they want an ID of the USC??

Also I've seen posts requesting passports, also not an initial requirement if I am correct?? ( assuming both parties are in the country)

sigh, more to obsess over .....

[lisaf 0]

IDENTITY DOCUMENT: Please submit a photocopy of the Department of Motor Vehicle issued driver's license and/or identity card for each party to the qualifying marriage.

I'm also curious if anyone knows more about the above??? Why aren't these asked for in the instructions if they are necessary? And why each? why would they want an ID of the USC??

Also I've seen posts requesting passports, also not an initial requirement if I am correct?? ( assuming both parties are in the country)

sigh, more to obsess over .....

oh< I just realized how old this thread is.... does that make a difference??

[milimelo 4,477]

IDENTITY DOCUMENT: Please submit a photocopy of the Department of Motor Vehicle issued driver's license and/or identity card for each party to the qualifying marriage.

I'm also curious if anyone knows more about the above??? Why aren't these asked for in the instructions if they are necessary? And why each? why would they want an ID of the USC??

Also I've seen posts requesting passports, also not an initial requirement if I am correct?? ( assuming both parties are in the country)

sigh, more to obsess over .....

We submitted copy of my GC, copies of our drivers licenses (showing the same residence address) as well as the passport copies - first page followed by the pages with Turkey visa showing we went on vacation together (entrance and exit stamps).

Why for each is because you and the USC should be residing at the same address. If you do not, you explain that in detail on a separate sheet of paper.

I want to say as proof of identity but can't say for certain why. It's the USCIS way - you need to send in way more than the bare bones requirement and then you don't have a problem with them.

[wannabe_texan 0]

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Edited June 22, 2009 by wannabe_texan

[lisaf 0]

IDENTITY DOCUMENT: Please submit a photocopy of the Department of Motor Vehicle issued driver's license and/or identity card for each party to the qualifying marriage.

I'm also curious if anyone knows more about the above??? Why aren't these asked for in the instructions if they are necessary? And why each? why would they want an ID of the USC??

Also I've seen posts requesting passports, also not an initial requirement if I am correct?? ( assuming both parties are in the country)

sigh, more to obsess over .....

We submitted copy of my GC, copies of our drivers licenses (showing the same residence address) as well as the passport copies - first page followed by the pages with Turkey visa showing we went on vacation together (entrance and exit stamps).

Why for each is because you and the USC should be residing at the same address. If you do not, you explain that in detail on a separate sheet of paper.

I want to say as proof of identity but can't say for certain why. It's the USCIS way - you need to send in way more than the bare bones requirement and then you don't have a problem with them.

Hmm , perhaps it's if evidence of the same address in utilities etc is lacking? Just seems weird that if it's for ID its not requested outright.

I guess, the passport makes sense if you use a holiday as evidence then don't show the stamps to back it up?