Migrant arrests severing parents from kids

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Edwin, 16 (left), Luis, 15, and Ismael Valeriano, 12, were forced to care for themselves when their father was detained.

By Daniel Gonzalez, Arizona Republic

Brothers Ismael, Luis and Edwin Valeriano are U.S. citizens, but their lives have been upended by the arrest of their father as part of an escalating crackdown on illegal immigrants.

In March, the boys' 38-year-old father, Ismael Valeriano, a single parent from Mexico City, was detained for being in the country illegally after Phoenix police arrested him on a misdemeanor DUI warrant.

His three children, all 16 and younger, learned about their father's arrest while they were still at school. For more than a week they were left home alone to fend for themselves.

To get money for food, they sold some of their puppies. To get to school, they rummaged through their east Phoenix apartment for bus fare. Neighbors, friends and relatives finally stepped in to buy groceries, pay the rent and care for the children.

"I was shocked. I freaked out. I didn't know what to do," said Edwin, 16, the oldest of the three children. Luis is 15. Ismael Jr. is 12.

The Valeriano brothers are among thousands of U.S.-citizen children being separated from their immigrant parents because of the increased removal of people who are in the country illegally. Immigration officials do not keep track of family data for immigrants who are detained or removed, but officials say the number of children affected is undoubtedly rising.

The crackdown has been especially intense in Arizona.

"As we identify and remove more people from the U.S., a greater number of these people will have minor children," said Vincent Picard, a spokesman for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

Immigration officials say families of arrested immigrants are treated with compassion.

Child-welfare advocates, however, say the crackdowns are having a negative effect on children, hurting their emotional, economic and educational well-being.

The issue has caught the attention of some Democratic members in Congress, who in May held hearings calling into question recent work-site raids that left hundreds of children separated from their parents.

"It's really hard to imagine something more traumatic to a child's well-being and development than the forcible separation from a child's parent or caregiver," said Miriam Calderon, a senior policy director at the National Council of La Raza, a Latino civil-rights organization.

In fiscal 2007, ICE removed 240,779 people from the country, up 55 percent from 2003. ICE officials in Arizona removed nearly 42,500 in 2007, or 18 percent of the total.

Left alone

On March 17, Edwin Valeriano was in his seventh-period algebra class at Camelback High School when his cellphone rang. It was a family friend calling to tell Edwin that his father had been arrested.

"Don't be scared. Don't worry. I'm here if you need anything," Edwin remembers the woman saying.

The boys' parents are separated. Their mother lives with her parents near Renton, Wash. She is battling stomach cancer and is unable to travel or care for the boys.

When school ended, Edwin went home and told his two brothers the news. Luis is also a Camelback student. Ismael, who was on spring break, attends Balsz Elementary School.

"I just told them straight out. 'Dad's in jail. He's not coming home,' " Edwin said. "I felt like crying. But I didn't want my brothers to get upset, so I tried to stay calm."

The brothers went to bed that night without dinner. The next morning, Edwin and Luis foraged for quarters in their father's dresser so they could ride the city bus to Camelback High. Usually, their father gave them a ride before heading off to his landscaping job.

The brothers ended up living alone for eight days until their grandmother from Washington arrived to take care of them. Taking care of the boys, however, was hard for her because she has diabetes. The brothers sold two puppies for $50 each to help buy food, Edwin said. A grandfather who lives in Phoenix also dropped off microwave dinners. Neighbors and friends delivered more food.

But then in April, the brothers were about to be evicted because they couldn't pay the rent. Some community activists stepped in with hundreds of dollars in donations to help cover their bills.

David Alaniz, a community activist, felt compelled to donate money.

"What would have happened to these children if no one had been there?" Alaniz said.

At one point, the state's Child Protective Services also became involved, taking action to have the children placed in foster care.

Alaniz and several other community activists accompanied the children to court and convinced a judge that the children were better off remaining together with their grandmother.

More arrests, hardship

CPS has not seen a noticeable increase in the number of children being abandoned because of the heightened immigration enforcement, said Ken Deibert, director of the state Department of Economic Security's Division of Children, Youth and Families, which oversees CPS.

That is probably because in most cases the children of parents who have been deported are taken care of by other family members, Deibert said.

But he is concerned that more immigration enforcement could lead to more children being left alone.

"There absolutely needs to be effective communication to make sure children are safe," Deibert said.

As work-site raids and arrests of illegal immigrants have increased, ICE has taken steps to make sure children at home are cared for, either by family members or child-welfare officials, said Picard, the ICE spokesman.

Parents are asked at least once, and in some cases multiple times, if they are sole caregivers, Picard said.

Some deported parents choose to bring their children with them to their home country, even though the children are U.S. citizens, he said.

Those who don't bring them can call relatives in the country legally to come get the children, or they are given the names and telephone numbers of social-service agencies that can help provide care, he said.

Ultimately, however, "the responsibility of any negative consequences lies with the parents who have chosen to break the nation's immigration laws," Picard said. "We feel tremendous compassion for children. But it's the parents' responsibility to take care of their children."

Child-welfare advocates say they understand the need to enforce immigration laws but deporting parents for being in the country illegally is at odds with policies aimed at protecting children.

They say ICE needs a better, less haphazard system for making sure children at home are cared for when a parent is removed from the country.

"We will see increased hardship on children if this kind of increased enforcement continues without forethought," said Rosa Maria Castañeda, a researcher at the Urban Institute, a nonpartisan research organization in Washington, D.C.

Fighting deportation

In Arizona, arrests of undocumented immigrants are skyrocketing because of stepped- up enforcement by ICE and local, county and state agencies.

For example, in September 2006, ICE began responding to every call for assistance from local police. Since then, the agency has arrested more than 13,000 illegal immigrants because of such calls.

The Maricopa County Sheriff's Office began arresting illegal immigrants in March 2006 under the state's anti-smuggling law. A year later, it signed an agreement with ICE that gave trained deputies the power to arrest illegal immigrants and gave jail personnel the authority to check inmates' immigration status.

As a result, deputies have arrested more than 2,160 illegal immigrants and the jail has turned over more than 14,000 of them after they were booked on various crimes.

That is how the father of the Valeriano children ended up in the hands of immigration officials. In 2006, Chandler police charged Valeriano with misdemeanor driving under the influence. Valeriano said he served 24 hours in jail and completed 54 hours of DUI classes but never paid the $1,700 fine. A warrant was issued for his arrest.

Valeriano said he was arrested on the warrant in March when he went to claim his car from Phoenix police. The car had been impounded in February after Valeriano said he was charged with driving without a license and without insurance.

Valeriano said Maricopa County sheriff's officials placed an immigration hold on him after he was booked into jail. Now he faces deportation. Valeriano said no one asked him after his arrest whether he had any children at home. He called his wife in Washington from jail to let her know the boys were alone.

In June, Valeriano was released from a federal facility in Eloy after spending more than three months in detention.

Alaniz, the community activist, used a house he owns as collateral to post bond for Valeriano's release while Valeriano awaits his deportation hearing.

His lawyer, Maria Jones, plans to ask a judge to throw out the deportation case and grant Valeriano a green card so that he can stay in the country with his three children. She will argue that Valeriano has lived in the U.S. for nearly 20 years and his removal would place an extreme hardship on his three U.S.-citizen children.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/200...ildren0706.html

[Fandango 1,439]

perhaps the father shouldn't have DUI (let alone entered the country illegally). Is chronic lawbreaking what responsible parents do these days?

Edited July 6, 2008 by Happy Bunny

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this is awful to put kids thru this...but is this all the goverments fault????? these parents know they are here illegally, they did not come using the

proper legal way to arrive in the U.S. therefore putting their own children at-risk of being separated, and than suddenly it was not their

bad choice but the U.S. fault that this is happening....what are they teaching their children...everyone in the family mentioned has some reason

not to take these boys ...and it sounds like the boys knew their father was here illegally...i cannot condone stepping into any country illegally

this is wrong, but it is not the american goverment making these bad choices it is the parents and maybe these parents should take

responsibility for their own actions and not destroy their own families......

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Edwin, 16 (left), Luis, 15, and Ismael Valeriano, 12, were forced to care for themselves when their father was detained.

By Daniel Gonzalez, Arizona Republic

Brothers Ismael, Luis and Edwin Valeriano are U.S. citizens, but their lives have been upended by the arrest of their father as part of an escalating crackdown on illegal immigrants.

In March, the boys' 38-year-old father, Ismael Valeriano, a single parent from Mexico City, was detained for being in the country illegally after Phoenix police arrested him on a misdemeanor DUI warrant.

His three children, all 16 and younger, learned about their father's arrest while they were still at school. For more than a week they were left home alone to fend for themselves.

To get money for food, they sold some of their puppies. To get to school, they rummaged through their east Phoenix apartment for bus fare. Neighbors, friends and relatives finally stepped in to buy groceries, pay the rent and care for the children.

"I was shocked. I freaked out. I didn't know what to do," said Edwin, 16, the oldest of the three children. Luis is 15. Ismael Jr. is 12.

The Valeriano brothers are among thousands of U.S.-citizen children being separated from their immigrant parents because of the increased removal of people who are in the country illegally. Immigration officials do not keep track of family data for immigrants who are detained or removed, but officials say the number of children affected is undoubtedly rising.

The crackdown has been especially intense in Arizona.

"As we identify and remove more people from the U.S., a greater number of these people will have minor children," said Vincent Picard, a spokesman for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

Immigration officials say families of arrested immigrants are treated with compassion.

Child-welfare advocates, however, say the crackdowns are having a negative effect on children, hurting their emotional, economic and educational well-being.

The issue has caught the attention of some Democratic members in Congress, who in May held hearings calling into question recent work-site raids that left hundreds of children separated from their parents.

"It's really hard to imagine something more traumatic to a child's well-being and development than the forcible separation from a child's parent or caregiver," said Miriam Calderon, a senior policy director at the National Council of La Raza, a Latino civil-rights organization.

In fiscal 2007, ICE removed 240,779 people from the country, up 55 percent from 2003. ICE officials in Arizona removed nearly 42,500 in 2007, or 18 percent of the total.

Left alone

On March 17, Edwin Valeriano was in his seventh-period algebra class at Camelback High School when his cellphone rang. It was a family friend calling to tell Edwin that his father had been arrested.

"Don't be scared. Don't worry. I'm here if you need anything," Edwin remembers the woman saying.

The boys' parents are separated. Their mother lives with her parents near Renton, Wash. She is battling stomach cancer and is unable to travel or care for the boys.

When school ended, Edwin went home and told his two brothers the news. Luis is also a Camelback student. Ismael, who was on spring break, attends Balsz Elementary School.

"I just told them straight out. 'Dad's in jail. He's not coming home,' " Edwin said. "I felt like crying. But I didn't want my brothers to get upset, so I tried to stay calm."

The brothers went to bed that night without dinner. The next morning, Edwin and Luis foraged for quarters in their father's dresser so they could ride the city bus to Camelback High. Usually, their father gave them a ride before heading off to his landscaping job.

The brothers ended up living alone for eight days until their grandmother from Washington arrived to take care of them. Taking care of the boys, however, was hard for her because she has diabetes. The brothers sold two puppies for $50 each to help buy food, Edwin said. A grandfather who lives in Phoenix also dropped off microwave dinners. Neighbors and friends delivered more food.

But then in April, the brothers were about to be evicted because they couldn't pay the rent. Some community activists stepped in with hundreds of dollars in donations to help cover their bills.

David Alaniz, a community activist, felt compelled to donate money.

"What would have happened to these children if no one had been there?" Alaniz said.

At one point, the state's Child Protective Services also became involved, taking action to have the children placed in foster care.

Alaniz and several other community activists accompanied the children to court and convinced a judge that the children were better off remaining together with their grandmother.

More arrests, hardship

CPS has not seen a noticeable increase in the number of children being abandoned because of the heightened immigration enforcement, said Ken Deibert, director of the state Department of Economic Security's Division of Children, Youth and Families, which oversees CPS.

That is probably because in most cases the children of parents who have been deported are taken care of by other family members, Deibert said.

But he is concerned that more immigration enforcement could lead to more children being left alone.

"There absolutely needs to be effective communication to make sure children are safe," Deibert said.

As work-site raids and arrests of illegal immigrants have increased, ICE has taken steps to make sure children at home are cared for, either by family members or child-welfare officials, said Picard, the ICE spokesman.

Parents are asked at least once, and in some cases multiple times, if they are sole caregivers, Picard said.

Some deported parents choose to bring their children with them to their home country, even though the children are U.S. citizens, he said.

Those who don't bring them can call relatives in the country legally to come get the children, or they are given the names and telephone numbers of social-service agencies that can help provide care, he said.

Ultimately, however, "the responsibility of any negative consequences lies with the parents who have chosen to break the nation's immigration laws," Picard said. "We feel tremendous compassion for children. But it's the parents' responsibility to take care of their children."

Child-welfare advocates say they understand the need to enforce immigration laws but deporting parents for being in the country illegally is at odds with policies aimed at protecting children.

They say ICE needs a better, less haphazard system for making sure children at home are cared for when a parent is removed from the country.

"We will see increased hardship on children if this kind of increased enforcement continues without forethought," said Rosa Maria Castañeda, a researcher at the Urban Institute, a nonpartisan research organization in Washington, D.C.

Fighting deportation

In Arizona, arrests of undocumented immigrants are skyrocketing because of stepped- up enforcement by ICE and local, county and state agencies.

For example, in September 2006, ICE began responding to every call for assistance from local police. Since then, the agency has arrested more than 13,000 illegal immigrants because of such calls.

The Maricopa County Sheriff's Office began arresting illegal immigrants in March 2006 under the state's anti-smuggling law. A year later, it signed an agreement with ICE that gave trained deputies the power to arrest illegal immigrants and gave jail personnel the authority to check inmates' immigration status.

As a result, deputies have arrested more than 2,160 illegal immigrants and the jail has turned over more than 14,000 of them after they were booked on various crimes.

That is how the father of the Valeriano children ended up in the hands of immigration officials. In 2006, Chandler police charged Valeriano with misdemeanor driving under the influence. Valeriano said he served 24 hours in jail and completed 54 hours of DUI classes but never paid the $1,700 fine. A warrant was issued for his arrest.

Valeriano said he was arrested on the warrant in March when he went to claim his car from Phoenix police. The car had been impounded in February after Valeriano said he was charged with driving without a license and without insurance.

Valeriano said Maricopa County sheriff's officials placed an immigration hold on him after he was booked into jail. Now he faces deportation. Valeriano said no one asked him after his arrest whether he had any children at home. He called his wife in Washington from jail to let her know the boys were alone.

In June, Valeriano was released from a federal facility in Eloy after spending more than three months in detention.

Alaniz, the community activist, used a house he owns as collateral to post bond for Valeriano's release while Valeriano awaits his deportation hearing.

His lawyer, Maria Jones, plans to ask a judge to throw out the deportation case and grant Valeriano a green card so that he can stay in the country with his three children. She will argue that Valeriano has lived in the U.S. for nearly 20 years and his removal would place an extreme hardship on his three U.S.-citizen children.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/200...ildren0706.html

i agree gant him a green card....after they grant green cards to the ones who are doing it the legal way! and let him pay the same fees that we are paying and go through a background check as our fiancees are required to do. It is not the governments fault it his he made the choice to enter the US illegally and drink and drive...... no sympathy here

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

perhaps the father shouldn't have DUI (let alone entered the country illegally). Is chronic lawbreaking what responsible parents do these days?

this is awful to put kids thru this...but is this all the goverments fault????? these parents know they are here illegally, they did not come using the

proper legal way to arrive in the U.S. therefore putting their own children at-risk of being separated, and than suddenly it was not their

bad choice but the U.S. fault that this is happening....what are they teaching their children...everyone in the family mentioned has some reason

not to take these boys ...and it sounds like the boys knew their father was here illegally...i cannot condone stepping into any country illegally

this is wrong, but it is not the american goverment making these bad choices it is the parents and maybe these parents should take

responsibility for their own actions and not destroy their own families......

[natty bumppo 297]

perhaps the father shouldn't have DUI (let alone entered the country illegally). Is chronic lawbreaking what responsible parents do these days?

this is awful to put kids thru this...but is this all the goverments fault????? these parents know they are here illegally, they did not come using the

proper legal way to arrive in the U.S. therefore putting their own children at-risk of being separated, and than suddenly it was not their

bad choice but the U.S. fault that this is happening....what are they teaching their children...everyone in the family mentioned has some reason

not to take these boys ...and it sounds like the boys knew their father was here illegally...i cannot condone stepping into any country illegally

this is wrong, but it is not the american goverment making these bad choices it is the parents and maybe these parents should take

responsibility for their own actions and not destroy their own families......

[peejay 327]

I've got an idea for a reality TV show.

Cameras follow illegals as they leave their shacks in Mexico, Honduras and El Salvador, visit drug kingpins and get loaded-up with drugs to saturate the U.S. (as the price to get over the border).

Mexican officials meet the illegals and handout directions on how to invade the U.S. Included are ways to loot the US treasury and how to wire the money back home.

Touching scenes for the folks back home: climbing border fences, trashing their temporary campgrounds, nervously eyeing state trooper cars during trips in packed vans to the U.S interior, identity theft, buying forged documents at flea markets, filling out forms to get on the U.S. gravy train under several ID’s. Picking lettuce, mowing grass, sorting rags........and pocketing EITC refund checks.

Emmy Award scene: Bush meets the illegals in the Whitehouse and thanks them for bringing their culture to the U.S.

In this week's episode Ismael Valeriano's chickens finally come to roost after 20+ years of getting over at the expense of the American people. Unfortunately the dime got dropped on poor Ismael before Obama and the Democratic controlled Congress rammed through their 2009 illegal alien blanket amnesty of 25 million illegal aliens (including assorted murderers, rapists, child molesters, and MS-13 gang bangers) in spite of loud protests of the vast majority of the American public.

Ismael's story eventually ends happily when the 2009 Comprehensive Immigration Reform (aka: shamnesty) Obama signs into law is riddled with the usual loopholes, lies, and lack of enforcement funds allows the next 40 million illegal aliens a clear pathway to invade the USA with impunity. Ismael slithers back across the border in the dead of night to claim his undeserved US citizenship and is reunited with the kids.

Only in America. Reality sux don't it? Who sez crime don't pay?

[nighthawk 0]

I've got an idea for a reality TV show.

Cameras follow illegals as they leave their shacks in Mexico, Honduras and El Salvador, visit drug kingpins and get loaded-up with drugs to saturate the U.S. (as the price to get over the border).

Mexican officials meet the illegals and handout directions on how to invade the U.S. Included are ways to loot the US treasury and how to wire the money back home.

Touching scenes for the folks back home: climbing border fences, trashing their temporary campgrounds, nervously eyeing state trooper cars during trips in packed vans to the U.S interior, identity theft, buying forged documents at flea markets, filling out forms to get on the U.S. gravy train under several ID’s. Picking lettuce, mowing grass, sorting rags........and pocketing EITC refund checks.

Emmy Award scene: Bush meets the illegals in the Whitehouse and thanks them for bringing their culture to the U.S.

In this week's episode Ismael Valeriano's chickens finally come to roost after 20+ years of getting over at the expense of the American people. Unfortunately the dime got dropped on poor Ismael before Obama and the Democratic controlled Congress rammed through their 2009 illegal alien blanket amnesty of 25 million illegal aliens (including assorted murderers, rapists, child molesters, and MS-13 gang bangers) in spite of loud protests of the vast majority of the American public.

Ismael's story eventually ends happily when the 2009 Comprehensive Immigration Reform (aka: shamnesty) Obama signs into law is riddled with the usual loopholes, lies, and lack of enforcement funds allows the next 40 million illegal aliens a clear pathway to invade the USA with impunity. Ismael slithers back across the border in the dead of night to claim his undeserved US citizenship and is reunited with the kids.

Only in America. Reality sux don't it? Who sez crime don't pay?

peejay, I`m back my friend...You have a great imagination, what can I say but give credit where credit is due.

You should consider doing some sort of TV series. But you just have to mellow your script just a tad.

Like your script about a certain dangerous dog that was deranged and attacking people left and right. Those

scripts help to rally the sable rattling mobs and vigilantes under false pretense to commit violence. Peejay

I think you are a very intelligent person I have already said that previously. I am sadden that you even dream

of such cold hearted chapter for your movie, or whatever it is that you recommend.

But like I say peejay. You voice I hear load and clear. It is your right to speak your mind.

I have not been on-line due to difficulties with my monitor. This morning I spent it in church with the wife, but

I will be around, and as a new member scrolling around to monitor the thinking ways of the village.

Bless you Peejay

Your friend

[natty bumppo 297]

I've got an idea for a reality TV show.

Cameras follow illegals as they leave their shacks in Mexico, Honduras and El Salvador, visit drug kingpins and get loaded-up with drugs to saturate the U.S. (as the price to get over the border).

Mexican officials meet the illegals and handout directions on how to invade the U.S. Included are ways to loot the US treasury and how to wire the money back home.

Touching scenes for the folks back home: climbing border fences, trashing their temporary campgrounds, nervously eyeing state trooper cars during trips in packed vans to the U.S interior, identity theft, buying forged documents at flea markets, filling out forms to get on the U.S. gravy train under several ID’s. Picking lettuce, mowing grass, sorting rags........and pocketing EITC refund checks.

Emmy Award scene: Bush meets the illegals in the Whitehouse and thanks them for bringing their culture to the U.S.

In this week's episode Ismael Valeriano's chickens finally come to roost after 20+ years of getting over at the expense of the American people. Unfortunately the dime got dropped on poor Ismael before Obama and the Democratic controlled Congress rammed through their 2009 illegal alien blanket amnesty of 25 million illegal aliens (including assorted murderers, rapists, child molesters, and MS-13 gang bangers) in spite of loud protests of the vast majority of the American public.

Ismael's story eventually ends happily when the 2009 Comprehensive Immigration Reform (aka: shamnesty) Obama signs into law is riddled with the usual loopholes, lies, and lack of enforcement funds allows the next 40 million illegal aliens a clear pathway to invade the USA with impunity. Ismael slithers back across the border in the dead of night to claim his undeserved US citizenship and is reunited with the kids.

Only in America. Reality sux don't it? Who sez crime don't pay?

peejay, I`m back my friend...You have a great imagination, what can I say but give credit where credit is due.

You should consider doing some sort of TV series. But you just have to mellow your script just a tad.

Like your script about a certain dangerous dog that was deranged and attacking people left and right. Those

scripts help to rally the sable rattling mobs and vigilantes under false pretense to commit violence. Peejay

I think you are a very intelligent person I have already said that previously. I am sadden that you even dream

of such cold hearted chapter for your movie, or whatever it is that you recommend.

But like I say peejay. You voice I hear load and clear. It is your right to speak your mind.

I have not been on-line due to difficulties with my monitor. This morning I spent it in church with the wife, but

I will be around, and as a new member scrolling around to monitor the thinking ways of the village.

Bless you Peejay

Your friend

jiminy cricket ... wow ...

[peejay 327]

I've got an idea for a reality TV show.

Cameras follow illegals as they leave their shacks in Mexico, Honduras and El Salvador, visit drug kingpins and get loaded-up with drugs to saturate the U.S. (as the price to get over the border).

Mexican officials meet the illegals and handout directions on how to invade the U.S. Included are ways to loot the US treasury and how to wire the money back home.

Touching scenes for the folks back home: climbing border fences, trashing their temporary campgrounds, nervously eyeing state trooper cars during trips in packed vans to the U.S interior, identity theft, buying forged documents at flea markets, filling out forms to get on the U.S. gravy train under several ID’s. Picking lettuce, mowing grass, sorting rags........and pocketing EITC refund checks.

Emmy Award scene: Bush meets the illegals in the Whitehouse and thanks them for bringing their culture to the U.S.

In this week's episode Ismael Valeriano's chickens finally come to roost after 20+ years of getting over at the expense of the American people. Unfortunately the dime got dropped on poor Ismael before Obama and the Democratic controlled Congress rammed through their 2009 illegal alien blanket amnesty of 25 million illegal aliens (including assorted murderers, rapists, child molesters, and MS-13 gang bangers) in spite of loud protests of the vast majority of the American public.

Ismael's story eventually ends happily when the 2009 Comprehensive Immigration Reform (aka: shamnesty) Obama signs into law is riddled with the usual loopholes, lies, and lack of enforcement funds allows the next 40 million illegal aliens a clear pathway to invade the USA with impunity. Ismael slithers back across the border in the dead of night to claim his undeserved US citizenship and is reunited with the kids.

Only in America. Reality sux don't it? Who sez crime don't pay?

peejay, I`m back my friend...You have a great imagination, what can I say but give credit where credit is due.

You should consider doing some sort of TV series. But you just have to mellow your script just a tad.

Like your script about a certain dangerous dog that was deranged and attacking people left and right. Those

scripts help to rally the sable rattling mobs and vigilantes under false pretense to commit violence. Peejay

I think you are a very intelligent person I have already said that previously. I am sadden that you even dream

of such cold hearted chapter for your movie, or whatever it is that you recommend.

But like I say peejay. You voice I hear load and clear. It is your right to speak your mind.

I have not been on-line due to difficulties with my monitor. This morning I spent it in church with the wife, but

I will be around, and as a new member scrolling around to monitor the thinking ways of the village.

Bless you Peejay

Your friend

I'm happy to know that someone will be reading the details of the garment tag on my tee shirt. It's always nice to know somebody is looking over my shoulder and keeping my sh*t straight.

[Fandango 1,439]

I've got an idea for a reality TV show.

Cameras follow illegals as they leave their shacks in Mexico, Honduras and El Salvador, visit drug kingpins and get loaded-up with drugs to saturate the U.S. (as the price to get over the border).

Mexican officials meet the illegals and handout directions on how to invade the U.S. Included are ways to loot the US treasury and how to wire the money back home.

Touching scenes for the folks back home: climbing border fences, trashing their temporary campgrounds, nervously eyeing state trooper cars during trips in packed vans to the U.S interior, identity theft, buying forged documents at flea markets, filling out forms to get on the U.S. gravy train under several ID’s. Picking lettuce, mowing grass, sorting rags........and pocketing EITC refund checks.

Emmy Award scene: Bush meets the illegals in the Whitehouse and thanks them for bringing their culture to the U.S.

In this week's episode Ismael Valeriano's chickens finally come to roost after 20+ years of getting over at the expense of the American people. Unfortunately the dime got dropped on poor Ismael before Obama and the Democratic controlled Congress rammed through their 2009 illegal alien blanket amnesty of 25 million illegal aliens (including assorted murderers, rapists, child molesters, and MS-13 gang bangers) in spite of loud protests of the vast majority of the American public.

Ismael's story eventually ends happily when the 2009 Comprehensive Immigration Reform (aka: shamnesty) Obama signs into law is riddled with the usual loopholes, lies, and lack of enforcement funds allows the next 40 million illegal aliens a clear pathway to invade the USA with impunity. Ismael slithers back across the border in the dead of night to claim his undeserved US citizenship and is reunited with the kids.

Only in America. Reality sux don't it? Who sez crime don't pay?

peejay, I`m back my friend...You have a great imagination, what can I say but give credit where credit is due.

You should consider doing some sort of TV series. But you just have to mellow your script just a tad.

Like your script about a certain dangerous dog that was deranged and attacking people left and right. Those

scripts help to rally the sable rattling mobs and vigilantes under false pretense to commit violence. Peejay

I think you are a very intelligent person I have already said that previously. I am sadden that you even dream

of such cold hearted chapter for your movie, or whatever it is that you recommend.

But like I say peejay. You voice I hear load and clear. It is your right to speak your mind.

I have not been on-line due to difficulties with my monitor. This morning I spent it in church with the wife, but

I will be around, and as a new member scrolling around to monitor the thinking ways of the village.

Bless you Peejay

Your friend

Half the time, I think you're a fictional nick meant only as a pisstake, nighthawk. Nighthawk, nighthawk, nighthawk.

[Fandango 1,439]

Actually, make that 90% of the time.

Where's VJT? G dawg! where is you?

[*JG* 2]

this is awful to put kids thru this...but is this all the goverments fault????? these parents know they are here illegally, they did not come using the

proper legal way to arrive in the U.S. therefore putting their own children at-risk of being separated, and than suddenly it was not their

bad choice but the U.S. fault that this is happening....what are they teaching their children...everyone in the family mentioned has some reason

not to take these boys ...and it sounds like the boys knew their father was here illegally...i cannot condone stepping into any country illegally

this is wrong, but it is not the american goverment making these bad choices it is the parents and maybe these parents should take

responsibility for their own actions and not destroy their own families......

When I read something like this, I look at the inital action that caused all the reactions. I feel very sorry for these poor children, who did not wrong. But, in the end, the parents made the decisions that are now reaping the consequences. They have no one to blame but themselves.

[Ban Hammer 13,352]

Actually, make that 90% of the time.

Where's VJT? G dawg! where is you?

elvis has left the building.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...p;#entry1977236

[Amby 490]

soooo....I found out today that I know an illegal. He told me this massive story of how he was legal and then had to go home to get divorced. Too expensive to get divorced so he just came back illegally. #######? Who tells someone who went through legal immigration that kinda #######. I dunno what to do.