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I'm a regular of the immigration section of Yahoo! Answers, and another regular there keeps saying that if you wish to bring anyone to the US (be that a fiance, a spouse, or a relative), then you need to guarantee a "$30,000 bond" (example; see answer by ibu guru).

I've never heard of such a thing but I'm not a lawyer despite having accumulated a decent amount of knowledge on the basics of family immigration to the US.

I regularly catch him saying things that are completely incorrect despite the fact that he sounds (or tries to sound) like he knows what he's talking about, but I just don't know what's up with this $30,000 bond business. Surely I would have heard of such a thing at some point since I went through the entire process myself...

So let me put it this way: is he full of ####### or not? Or is he wording it in a way that's not entirely untrue but deceptive?

Timeline:

2005-04-14: met online

2005-09-03: met in person

2007-02-26: filed for K-1

2007-03-19: K-1 approved

2007-06-11: K-1 in hand

2007-07-03: arrived in USA

2007-07-21: got married, yay!

2007-07-28: applied for green card

2008-02-19: conditional green card in hand

2010-01-05: applied for removal of conditions

2010-06-14: 10-year green card in hand

2013-11-19: applied for US citizenship

2014-02-10: became a US citizen

2014-02-22: applied for US passport

2014-03-14: received US passport

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I'm a regular of the immigration section of Yahoo! Answers, and another regular there keeps saying that if you wish to bring anyone to the US (be that a fiance, a spouse, or a relative), then you need to guarantee a "$30,000 bond" (example; see answer by ibu guru).

I've never heard of such a thing but I'm not a lawyer despite having accumulated a decent amount of knowledge on the basics of family immigration to the US.

I regularly catch him saying things that are completely incorrect despite the fact that he sounds (or tries to sound) like he knows what he's talking about, but I just don't know what's up with this $30,000 bond business. Surely I would have heard of such a thing at some point since I went through the entire process myself...

So let me put it this way: is he full of ####### or not? Or is he wording it in a way that's not entirely untrue but deceptive?

Stop reading there... No BOND required.... an Affidavit of Support possibly (either the I-134 or I-864 dependant on visa type)

Did you provide a bond in your K-1 process?

Edited by fwaguy

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I'm a regular of the immigration section of Yahoo! Answers, and another regular there keeps saying that if you wish to bring anyone to the US (be that a fiance, a spouse, or a relative), then you need to guarantee a "$30,000 bond" (example; see answer by ibu guru).

I've never heard of such a thing but I'm not a lawyer despite having accumulated a decent amount of knowledge on the basics of family immigration to the US.

I regularly catch him saying things that are completely incorrect despite the fact that he sounds (or tries to sound) like he knows what he's talking about, but I just don't know what's up with this $30,000 bond business. Surely I would have heard of such a thing at some point since I went through the entire process myself...

So let me put it this way: is he full of ####### or not? Or is he wording it in a way that's not entirely untrue but deceptive?

In short, he is full of ####### :) And that's coming from a newbie on a journey, too :) Here's why:

The only way you can get married and stay in the US while you're being processed is to get a fiance visa first. Your American fiance must apply for the fiance visa and you must remain in Canada the entire time the application is being processed. Your fiance will have to prove the validity of the relationship and prove his ability to support you and guarantee a $30,000 bond. It will take about a year to get a fiance visa.

First of all, you can marry on any visa while in the US as long as you can prove there was no intent to marry when you crossed the border. Second, no such thing as bond is needed. You fiance just has to make a poverty level and sign affidavit of support so that you do not become a burden on US government. Thrid, you can travel and visit your fiance in the States. Applying for K1 does not ban you from traveling to the States on waiver program or any other visa.

If approved for a fiance visa, you may enter the US and have 90 days to marry and file for a spousal visa. You will probably be allowed to remain in the US while the spousal visa is processed. After you get spousal visa, you may apply for authorization to work. After that is approved, then apply for SSN, then you can start to job hunt.

Why would yhou file for another visa while in the US? Yes, you do have to 90 days to marry, but after marriage you file for AOS which generally includes AP and EAD. Social Security can be issued even before marriage.

If you enter the US on visa waiver or any type of visa other than a fiance visa, you must return home immediately and remain there while the spousal visa is applied for and processed. It will take at least 2 years. Not following the "fiance visa route" triggers a marriage fraud investigation, and since you will not be living together while the spousal visa is applied for and processed, it becomes much more difficult to prove a valid marriage.

Now he's talking nonsense agian. I guess he doesn't really know the process and confuses visas with petitions.

Make no attempt to get around the fiance visa or speed up the marriage or you are in trouble -- expensive, time-consuming trouble with the potential for getting yourself barred from the US.

I just hope nobody took this "advice" to heart. Seriosly why talk about things you clearly have no idea about?

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07-22-2006 Met in Florida

09-02-2006 Been together ever since

12-09-2007 My visa expired, trip back home

01-16-2008 Dave visited me in Ukraine

04-22-2008 I-129F mailed out to Vermont

05-20-2008 I-129F returned

05-22-2008 Second attempt at filing I-129F

05-23-2008 Received by Mr. Novak

05-29-2008 NOA1 (6 days)

06-09-2008 Touched (Yay, violated for the 1st time)

07-02-2008 Touched again!!!

07-03-2008 Touched again!!!

08-29-2008 Dave's 2nd trip to Ukraine!

09-25-2008 NOA2 (126 days)

09-26-2008 Touched

09-??-2008 NVC Received

09-30-2008 NVC Left

10-02-2008 Noa2 hardcopy in the mail

10-03-2008 Embassy Received

11-05-2008 Medical

11-07-2008 Interview

11-14-2008 Visa Received

11-17-2008 Flight to Orlando :)

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This guy doesn't seem to know much...he gave some inaccurate information and I really hope the original poster will check out the USCIS website for him/herself. I wouldn't put too much stock in his answers. I don't know anything about a $30,000 bond.

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This guy doesn't seem to know much...he gave some inaccurate information and I really hope the original poster will check out the USCIS website for him/herself. I wouldn't put too much stock in his answers. I don't know anything about a $30,000 bond.

i see you beat me to replying on yahoo answers. i put in a plug for vj too :P

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This guy doesn't seem to know much...he gave some inaccurate information and I really hope the original poster will check out the USCIS website for him/herself. I wouldn't put too much stock in his answers. I don't know anything about a $30,000 bond.

i see you beat me to replying on yahoo answers. i put in a plug for vj too :P

....and people think some VJ members are notorious for giving out wrong information! Sheesh!

Teaching is the essential profession...the one that makes ALL other professions possible - David Haselkorn

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Yeah, it turns out the example I picked was most excellent to show the "untruths" that person sometimes spreads. I didn't even read his post, I was just looking through his post history to locate one with the $30k mention and picked the first one I found!

Well, anyway, your answers certainly reassured me, so thanks!

Timeline:

2005-04-14: met online

2005-09-03: met in person

2007-02-26: filed for K-1

2007-03-19: K-1 approved

2007-06-11: K-1 in hand

2007-07-03: arrived in USA

2007-07-21: got married, yay!

2007-07-28: applied for green card

2008-02-19: conditional green card in hand

2010-01-05: applied for removal of conditions

2010-06-14: 10-year green card in hand

2013-11-19: applied for US citizenship

2014-02-10: became a US citizen

2014-02-22: applied for US passport

2014-03-14: received US passport

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This guy doesn't seem to know much...he gave some inaccurate information and I really hope the original poster will check out the USCIS website for him/herself. I wouldn't put too much stock in his answers. I don't know anything about a $30,000 bond.

i see you beat me to replying on yahoo answers. i put in a plug for vj too :P

....and people think some VJ members are notorious for giving out wrong information! Sheesh!

at least on vj it gets corrected by other members,

* ~ * Charles * ~ *
 

I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.

 

USE THE REPORT BUTTON INSTEAD OF MESSAGING A MODERATOR!

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This guy doesn't seem to know much...he gave some inaccurate information and I really hope the original poster will check out the USCIS website for him/herself. I wouldn't put too much stock in his answers. I don't know anything about a $30,000 bond.

i see you beat me to replying on yahoo answers. i put in a plug for vj too :P

....and people think some VJ members are notorious for giving out wrong information! Sheesh!

at least on vj it gets corrected by other members,

Aye true that! :)

Teaching is the essential profession...the one that makes ALL other professions possible - David Haselkorn

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