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What happened to the post where you "answered" all my questions and then spelled it out again? I read it earlier today but didn't have time to reply. Did you delete it after realizing you contradicted yourself or did you have to get rid of it because one of the lies didn't jive with another?

Either way, I wish it was still on here. I was ready to reply and do a little cutting and pasting of your previous posts where you plainly said one thing and then later, in response to what I asked, said another. Oh well.

One last question.......

Are you doing this because what she did just wasn't right and you really hope nobody else gets "suckered" like you did or did she break your heart and now you have to have spiteful revenge? Or, are you really thinking that after no one else in the whole world will e-mail or talk to her you'll be there to be a shoulder for her to cry on and ultimately will get her back? Does your fiancee now bear a resemblance to her? After all, you can customize your search to get a 5'7" brunette. Explore the motivation for your actions just a little bit. Be honest with us (and more importantly, yourself) because it's not hard to see what's going on here.

I guess that was like 5 questions and a few statements. Doesn't really matter much becuase it's not like we're really worried much about authenticity here.

Moderator deleted, not me

I am sure that Mox complained about it about being private information. So he can live his fantasy, but the truth is now out.

If I write about it, it will be delete, so why bother.

It reminds of the book called Nausea by Jean Paul Sartre that it is better live a fantasy than the truth, because the truth really sucks in comparison to the fantasy. I will place a website warning about her and other golddiggers and scammers. You do not know how many people followed this lady's ways and started to scam others for free trips. It is too bad that people like you rather support such activity than actually fight against, yet you think you are strong and moral.

Truth be told, I hope the moderator finishes off the rest of my posts.

First I am not going to put names

Revenge? I emailed the gentleman first and warned him the situation. In the beginning, I even offered to assist him, but warned of her past. I wanted to toast the scamming agency that was writing fake letters. This particular lady was supposedly writing 700 letters under one site in 6 months. That is many letters for one person who works many hours. I tried to toast the agency in YO, because one person can do lots of damage, but an agency can do much more.

A friend was visiting the city was shown the letters about this particular lady asking for money from numerous sources. Also this particular person coworkers were telling about the scam she was about to place on a member of this board. So I warned him. This lady was still asking for money from me. BTW when you blacklist someone, there is no going back to that person.

Some of the blacklists had my email, so a man from YO gave me a letter about a potential green card scam that was going to be placed on a particular member of this forum. Maybe I should have walked away and let him rot, but I am tired of good people getting used. Anyways, I knew that I was not going anywhere with this and decided to leave it be, and let nature work it way out.

But when I arrived back from the UKraine, I received another messages about her not being honest per say. I thought I should warn this man again. He ignored it. I felt bad for him and so I called this "lady" and told her that I would expose her deception if she did not come clean. She only came half clean, because she wanted to leave room for further profitable dishonesty. I thought if a source from this forum were to visit this lady and tell this gentleman the truth, then he would have believed the dishonesty existed and then the blacklists could be reassembled one more to save others from this fate.

My views on this lady, I knew her before she changed. But as long she can scam for money,she will remain the same.

I have someone special in my life that is different than this lady. I am not going to mention more about her, because you will just throw vulgar insults.

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I dont know why, but I smell fruitcake. Anyone else smell that?

Bobaloiue, I heard in the south they love conspiracy theories. Knock yourself out. Think what you want.

But the fact is that Nadya's is pregnant and she has been using men for financial gain for 5 years.

You can ask anyone YO to see her and they will tell you that she is pregnant. I have witnesses who can list the letters she wrote asking for money from the website fiance.com and when I had her removed from this site, she was livid. She wasn;t even writing her own letters, but the scamming agency was writing the letters. Mox knew this.

But hey, you will never believe me so really why bother trying to explain to you.

What does the scent of fruitcake have to do with a conpiracy? I am confused. Can you, oh great one, enlighten me please?

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What happened to the post where you "answered" all my questions and then spelled it out again? I read it earlier today but didn't have time to reply. Did you delete it after realizing you contradicted yourself or did you have to get rid of it because one of the lies didn't jive with another?

Either way, I wish it was still on here. I was ready to reply and do a little cutting and pasting of your previous posts where you plainly said one thing and then later, in response to what I asked, said another. Oh well.

One last question.......

Are you doing this because what she did just wasn't right and you really hope nobody else gets "suckered" like you did or did she break your heart and now you have to have spiteful revenge? Or, are you really thinking that after no one else in the whole world will e-mail or talk to her you'll be there to be a shoulder for her to cry on and ultimately will get her back? Does your fiancee now bear a resemblance to her? After all, you can customize your search to get a 5'7" brunette. Explore the motivation for your actions just a little bit. Be honest with us (and more importantly, yourself) because it's not hard to see what's going on here.

I guess that was like 5 questions and a few statements. Doesn't really matter much becuase it's not like we're really worried much about authenticity here.

Moderator deleted, not me

I am sure that Mox complained about it about being private information. So he can live his fantasy, but the truth is now out.

If I write about it, it will be delete, so why bother.

It reminds of the book called Nausea by Jean Paul Sartre that it is better live a fantasy than the truth, because the truth really sucks in comparison to the fantasy. I will place a website warning about her and other golddiggers and scammers. You do not know how many people followed this lady's ways and started to scam others for free trips. It is too bad that people like you rather support such activity than actually fight against, yet you think you are strong and moral.

Truth be told, I hope the moderator finishes off the rest of my posts.

I have a feeling you would lie if the truth was a better story! :blink:

--- AOS Timeline ---

07/22/08 --- Mailed AOS packet to Chicago

07/25/08 --- NOA for I-131, I-485, and I-765

08/27/08 --- Biometrics

10/01/08 --- AP received

10/14/08 --- EAD received

11/13/08 --- Notice of transfer to CSC

02/09/09 --- Permanent Resident Card Ordered Notice

02/09/09 --- 2 Yr Permanent Resident Card Received

--- Lifting Conditions ---

11/10/10 --- Mailed I-751 packet to VSC

11/12/10 --- NOA1

12/22/10 --- Biometrics

03/15/11 --- RFE

05/10/11 --- Approved

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Korat,

I won't comment on your accusations about this girl, only to say that I wouldn't be surprised in the least if the gist of your account was true; girls like this are all too common in the MOB world but most guys involved are afraid to look behind the mirrors.

That said, I think you should take a step back and analyze your own behavior. Don't you think it's odd that years after this woman screwed you over, you're still tracking her every move? Do you think you come off as rational when you pry into her personal life and seek out snitches like hospital workers and bank managers?

And most of all: do you really think anyone here believes you're doing it to protect other men? Here's a bulletin for you: you're doing it for yourself (although I'm sure on some level you know that).

Nadya may have screwed you over and part of your motivation is surely revenge, but no one would hang on this long unless they were lovesick. I've met guys like you before, and the unspoken motivation obvious to anyone but him is, "if I can't have her, no one else will." There's also the (ridiculous to anyone but you) notion that you are somehow responsible for her behavior because you "spoiled" her long ago, and thus feel a guilty responsibility to protect other guys from her. So noble of you! But the white armor you're flashing to everyone here is actually the emperor's new clothes; or better yet, the armor is a sad green mix of envy, jealousy, bitterness, and unrequited love.

And you accuse Kurt of living in a fantasy world??? :bonk:

One question: does your current "fiancee" know that you track your ex's every move and sabotage her attempts at scamming others? I'd bet my next paycheck that she has no idea about your crusade and no matter how much you've managed to deceive yourself about your motivations, you are wily enough to keep this off her radar because you know she'd dump you if she saw how obsessed you are with Nadya. Sound about right?

Dude, get over her, move on or you'll drown in your own bilious poison.

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I've got zero interest in engaging with korat/Gigii, and don't intend to start. As the saying goes, arguing with an idiot is like wrestling with a pig. You both get covered in #######, and the pig likes it.

Since I've had a couple pm's asking if korat/Gigii's story has any validity, I'll just respond globally and say nothing that korat/Gigii has said jives with my experiences. Her relationships prior to me are none of my business, and I've never talked to her about them. Likewise, her current and future relationships are none of my business either. We both made the decision to move on with our lives, and I wish korat/Gigii would learn how to do the same. My relationship, past and future, with her is none of korat/Gigii's business. I'm sorry that he's chosen to continue to harass her, but I also know that she's a big girl and will find a way to deal with him in her own way. So if korat/Gigii believes he is hurting me through her, he is mistaken. If anyone's got any more specific questions, feel free to pm me.

Apologies to the forum for bringing this drama down on your heads. If I've learned one thing, it's that going forward I'll definitely make sure to keep my relationships much more private. korat/Gigii is why we can't have nice things.

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Apologies to the forum for bringing this drama down on your heads. If I've learned one thing, it's that going forward I'll definitely make sure to keep my relationships much more private. korat/Gigii is why we can't have nice things.

Awww, come on mox. You know everyone on this forum likes some good drama every now and then.

(And I can't say I'm not secretly waiting for the individual round to take place in the arena..... gladiatorial combat in the colosseum that is the VJ Russia Forum. I know it's draining to argue with idiots, but it's so fun for the rest of us!)

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Apologies to the forum for bringing this drama down on your heads. If I've learned one thing, it's that going forward I'll definitely make sure to keep my relationships much more private. korat/Gigii is why we can't have nice things.

Awww, come on mox. You know everyone on this forum likes some good drama every now and then.

(And I can't say I'm not secretly waiting for the individual round to take place in the arena..... gladiatorial combat in the colosseum that is the VJ Russia Forum. I know it's draining to argue with idiots, but it's so fun for the rest of us!)

Yeah. I haven't seen this much drama since my wife and I had our little meltdown on here! No offense, but it's been sort of boring since then...

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(And I can't say I'm not secretly waiting for the individual round to take place in the arena..... gladiatorial combat in the colosseum that is the VJ Russia Forum. I know it's draining to argue with idiots, but it's so fun for the rest of us!)

Hey, you know me. There's nothing I like better than opening up a can 'o whupass on trolling sock monkeys. I'm just afraid his slutty Ukranian girlfriend (what was her name again? Boris? I think it was Boris) might come after me. :devil:

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(And I can't say I'm not secretly waiting for the individual round to take place in the arena..... gladiatorial combat in the colosseum that is the VJ Russia Forum. I know it's draining to argue with idiots, but it's so fun for the rest of us!)

Hey, you know me. There's nothing I like better than opening up a can 'o whupass on trolling sock monkeys. I'm just afraid his slutty Ukranian girlfriend (what was her name again? Boris? I think it was Boris) might come after me. :devil:

You gotta keep a sense of humor about these things! Good to see you have. =)

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07/07/11: U.S. Citizenship approved and Oath Ceremony!

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07/26/11: Initial mailing of I-130.

05/22/12: Interview passed!

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(And I can't say I'm not secretly waiting for the individual round to take place in the arena..... gladiatorial combat in the colosseum that is the VJ Russia Forum. I know it's draining to argue with idiots, but it's so fun for the rest of us!)

Hey, you know me. There's nothing I like better than opening up a can 'o whupass on trolling sock monkeys. I'm just afraid his slutty Ukranian girlfriend (what was her name again? Boris? I think it was Boris) might come after me. :devil:

Yes, it is nice to move on when your fiancee is knocked up by another man and she was going take your money until the very end. She never loved you, just wanted a free trip to California and if she liked california, then it was going to be the green card scam.

Moving on, I never bothered the cow for almost a year until I was told that she was pregnant and thought I would tell M. Like I said, we know mutual people in YO and I am not giving up my friends, because of her. I never asked about her or cared. They told me. I told him in private originally and without insult. I though the man should know. He called lies, so I told her that I would give M photos of her pregnant if she did not tell him the truth. Then he announces that he is broke up, but friends then trashes me. He would be still giving her money if I did not tell her that I knew the truth. Someone else knocks up his financee in YO and it is my fault. Amazing. I should have let her take more money out of you.

My fiancee knows everything.

Now it is over.

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I've got zero interest in engaging with korat/Gigii, and don't intend to start. As the saying goes, arguing with an idiot is like wrestling with a pig. You both get covered in #######, and the pig likes it.

Since I've had a couple pm's asking if korat/Gigii's story has any validity, I'll just respond globally and say nothing that korat/Gigii has said jives with my experiences. Her relationships prior to me are none of my business, and I've never talked to her about them. Likewise, her current and future relationships are none of my business either. We both made the decision to move on with our lives, and I wish korat/Gigii would learn how to do the same. My relationship, past and future, with her is none of korat/Gigii's business. I'm sorry that he's chosen to continue to harass her, but I also know that she's a big girl and will find a way to deal with him in her own way. So if korat/Gigii believes he is hurting me through her, he is mistaken. If anyone's got any more specific questions, feel free to pm me.

Apologies to the forum for bringing this drama down on your heads. If I've learned one thing, it's that going forward I'll definitely make sure to keep my relationships much more private. korat/Gigii is why we can't have nice things.

Ahh Mox, why don't you take a lovely picture of her? I heard she is showing quite well that lovely stomach. Or ask someone from this forum who fiancee lives in YO to visit her.

But you are a coward about the truth. Live your fantasy.

Now I am done.

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Korat, we still don't understand why this is all bothering you so much. None of us do. Why do you care about Mox or Nadya now?

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Ahh Mox, why don't you take a lovely picture of her? I heard she is showing quite well that lovely stomach. Or ask someone from this forum who fiancee lives in YO to visit her.

But you are a coward about the truth. Live your fantasy.

Nothing more beautiful than a pregnant woman. Sounds like she's happy. Which is cool, because I'm happy too. I hope you and Boris from Ukraine will be happy also. Seriously man, I mean that. My blessings on you both...may your unibrows never tangle during a passionate moment. :thumbs:

(anyone else have any toasts to the happy couple?)

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I don't know who to pity any more or who to feel sad for; Korat for following Mox onto VJ or Mox for hanging around VJ despite not having a "visajourney" anymore. In grade school, we would call Mox a "wannabee". As for Korat, perhaps simply a "Whoooooo Cares?"

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