Friend Gets Goodbye Email from Fiance

[Korat 0]

Some personal information. That is a good start... gooood. Now, without digressing about any one else, how did you two lovebirds meet? From Russia to Ukraine is quite a distance - so what brought you there?

What is your lady's name? How does her family feel about you? Do you often drink while you post?

Name is mentioned above Irina

Met her Nikolaev.

I am not from Russia, but Canada

Her family so far likes me. Father is away often so never met him yet. It is different in Canada, I have to invite via tourist visa, there is no Fiance Visa. So I have to build her passport so she can visit or else marriage in Ukraine then bring her over. I knew one man who did this and his marriage last only 2 weeks in Canada. Once they land in Canada, they can apply landed immigrant status which is equivalent almost to citizenship. Like I said, the American system is superior, so I need to find the rules about myself being in the USA and bring someone over.

No, not really, just more dyslexia

[Bobalouie 0]

I dont know why, but I smell fruitcake. Anyone else smell that?

[sara..... 371]

Hmmm, I wonder if it's MOX.

It was not mox. I can, however, report that Nadya and I have recently had a mutual parting of ways, but there's nothing sordid or abrupt about it, and we remain fast friends. I've held off on saying anything because Nadya's ex boyfriend/stalker lurks here, and saying anything would have only encouraged him to re-start harassing her. But he's managed to figure it out, so I can at least share with you all that we won't be completing our VJ.

I do want to thank everyone for their support, especially those few of you who I did share the situation with, and who were so incredibly supportive. I made some great friends, and had some good times. Best of luck to everyone here. I'm sure I'll drop in from time-to-time to offer my voluminous wisdom and crass, baseless attacks, so you're probably not rid of me quite yet. Besides...I know this girl in Moscow...

ohhhhhhhhh mox im sorry.......i had no idea

[Ana&D 0]

I dont know why, but I smell fruitcake. Anyone else smell that?

Major stalker alert

[Bobalouie 0]

Ok Korat/GiGii...You know its against the TOS to have multiple logons, yes?

[GiGii 4]

Ok Bobalouie, you know it's against TOS to accuse people falsely?

[Bobalouie 0]

Well GiGii, I guess we will find out!

[Brad and Vika 129]

Ugly.

[Korat 0]

I dont know why, but I smell fruitcake. Anyone else smell that?

Bobaloiue, I heard in the south they love conspiracy theories. Knock yourself out. Think what you want.

But the fact is that Nadya's is pregnant and she has been using men for financial gain for 5 years.

You can ask anyone YO to see her and they will tell you that she is pregnant. I have witnesses who can list the letters she wrote asking for money from the website fiance.com and when I had her removed from this site, she was livid. She wasn;t even writing her own letters, but the scamming agency was writing the letters. Mox knew this.

But hey, you will never believe me so really why bother trying to explain to you.

[Korat 0]

Ugly.

Yes, you are right. I decided to air the truth so that this woman never destroys another life.

What part of Ukraine is your fiancee from?

It is a beautiful country and I was scheduled to go back this August, but due some complications, I cannot.

I had discussions with some members of the National Bank of Ukraine and some elite expats when I was in Kiev. Ukraine just scares me as an economy. The price of property is almost triple than an Average American apartment and still has the bad qualities of stench and decay.

[slim 1,530]

What happened to the post where you "answered" all my questions and then spelled it out again? I read it earlier today but didn't have time to reply. Did you delete it after realizing you contradicted yourself or did you have to get rid of it because one of the lies didn't jive with another?

Either way, I wish it was still on here. I was ready to reply and do a little cutting and pasting of your previous posts where you plainly said one thing and then later, in response to what I asked, said another. Oh well.

One last question.......

Are you doing this because what she did just wasn't right and you really hope nobody else gets "suckered" like you did or did she break your heart and now you have to have spiteful revenge? Or, are you really thinking that after no one else in the whole world will e-mail or talk to her you'll be there to be a shoulder for her to cry on and ultimately will get her back? Does your fiancee now bear a resemblance to her? After all, you can customize your search to get a 5'7" brunette. Explore the motivation for your actions just a little bit. Be honest with us (and more importantly, yourself) because it's not hard to see what's going on here.

I guess that was like 5 questions and a few statements. Doesn't really matter much becuase it's not like we're really worried much about authenticity here.

[Korat 0]

What happened to the post where you "answered" all my questions and then spelled it out again? I read it earlier today but didn't have time to reply. Did you delete it after realizing you contradicted yourself or did you have to get rid of it because one of the lies didn't jive with another?

Either way, I wish it was still on here. I was ready to reply and do a little cutting and pasting of your previous posts where you plainly said one thing and then later, in response to what I asked, said another. Oh well.

One last question.......

Are you doing this because what she did just wasn't right and you really hope nobody else gets "suckered" like you did or did she break your heart and now you have to have spiteful revenge? Or, are you really thinking that after no one else in the whole world will e-mail or talk to her you'll be there to be a shoulder for her to cry on and ultimately will get her back? Does your fiancee now bear a resemblance to her? After all, you can customize your search to get a 5'7" brunette. Explore the motivation for your actions just a little bit. Be honest with us (and more importantly, yourself) because it's not hard to see what's going on here.

I guess that was like 5 questions and a few statements. Doesn't really matter much becuase it's not like we're really worried much about authenticity here.

Moderator deleted, not me

I am sure that Mox complained about it about being private information. So he can live his fantasy, but the truth is now out.

If I write about it, it will be delete, so why bother.

It reminds of the book called Nausea by Jean Paul Sartre that it is better live a fantasy than the truth, because the truth really sucks in comparison to the fantasy. I will place a website warning about her and other golddiggers and scammers. You do not know how many people followed this lady's ways and started to scam others for free trips. It is too bad that people like you rather support such activity than actually fight against, yet you think you are strong and moral.

Truth be told, I hope the moderator finishes off the rest of my posts.

[Brad and Vika 129]

Ugly.

Yes, you are right. I decided to air the truth so that this woman never destroys another life.

What part of Ukraine is your fiancee from?

It is a beautiful country and I was scheduled to go back this August, but due some complications, I cannot.

I had discussions with some members of the National Bank of Ukraine and some elite expats when I was in Kiev. Ukraine just scares me as an economy. The price of property is almost triple than an Average American apartment and still has the bad qualities of stench and decay.

What did you discuss with the bank? What is an "elite expat"? Economically speaking, an economy like Ukraine's (or any FSU country except Russia) has loads of opportunity. The higher the scariness, the more opportunity.

See how this works? If we have a dialogue where you talk about your own experience the mods won't tamper with it. If you persist in slamming another VJer, you will draw fire from others and mods will kill your posts. Simple, right?

Edited July 23, 2008 by Brad and Vika

[slim 1,530]

What happened to the post where you "answered" all my questions and then spelled it out again? I read it earlier today but didn't have time to reply. Did you delete it after realizing you contradicted yourself or did you have to get rid of it because one of the lies didn't jive with another?

Either way, I wish it was still on here. I was ready to reply and do a little cutting and pasting of your previous posts where you plainly said one thing and then later, in response to what I asked, said another. Oh well.

One last question.......

Are you doing this because what she did just wasn't right and you really hope nobody else gets "suckered" like you did or did she break your heart and now you have to have spiteful revenge? Or, are you really thinking that after no one else in the whole world will e-mail or talk to her you'll be there to be a shoulder for her to cry on and ultimately will get her back? Does your fiancee now bear a resemblance to her? After all, you can customize your search to get a 5'7" brunette. Explore the motivation for your actions just a little bit. Be honest with us (and more importantly, yourself) because it's not hard to see what's going on here.

I guess that was like 5 questions and a few statements. Doesn't really matter much becuase it's not like we're really worried much about authenticity here.

Moderator deleted, not me

I am sure that Mox complained about it about being private information. So he can live his fantasy, but the truth is now out.

If I write about it, it will be delete, so why bother.

It reminds of the book called Nausea by Jean Paul Sartre that it is better live a fantasy than the truth, because the truth really sucks in comparison to the fantasy. I will place a website warning about her and other golddiggers and scammers. You do not know how many people followed this lady's ways and started to scam others for free trips. It is too bad that people like you rather support such activity than actually fight against, yet you think you are strong and moral.

Truth be told, I hope the moderator finishes off the rest of my posts.

Well, before they do that, allow me to retort.

How is jumping on a forum dedicated to relationship/family-based visas and spreading dirt about someone's "amicable breakup" helping to stop scammers? Were you looking out for our best interests by warning the rest of us (who are already either married or in the process of getting a visa for our S/O) what we could possibly get into? Did you think one of us on this forum was going to say, "YES! Kirk busted up with Nadya.... my turn!"???

There has to be some other motivation for you to do what you're doing. Please, explore that a little bit before you come back here. I'm not saying you're not welcome to come here and post, (everyone likes pie and popcorn) but to sugarcoat your cheapshots as "help" for the rest of us is just downright insulting to our intelligence. And here on the VJ Russia forum, you're free to insult whatever you like.... but you're going to be hard-pressed to keep up with the intelligence in this community!

[Brad and Vika 129]

I agree with slim Korat. But the good news is that VJ is a place where you can be completely self-focused.