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Since this sister and hubby are well known for their illegal activities, and they also know about this latest attempt, why not have several of the people that know this write a letter to the embassy. If the question comes up at the interview she can show them letter after letter. Also, is there a way to obtain a police report on this couple as well?

That she's visiting her US Citizen boyfriend/fiance is enough to kill her chances at a B2 visa. What would these letters say that would overcome the assumption of immigrant intent. No need to over-think this.

I understand the difficulty but with a child enrolled in school, a lease on a condo, three business' with one of them earning 50,000 per month profit; I think if the embassy is inclined to grant a B2 to a single Filipina, the case can be successfully made that she does indeed, have compelling reasons to return to her country. I'm not saying they will. In fact, we're both rather pessimistic based on historical results but I think it's worth a shot, especially since the duration of her stay is only three weeks. Whether or not that short a stay will help or hurt the decision-making process will be dependent on the duration of the interview and the direction it takes. I know it's not impossible Pushbck and I agree with your earlier assessment that the odds are probably no better than 50:50 but certainly those kind of odds are worth our effort; hence my initial reservations about her sister's extortion attempt. I do appreciate your honesty though and by and large, our Plan B seems to be gathering steam as a result of it.

The above is nothing new and doesn't address the question, which was, "What would these letters say that would overcome the assumption of immigrant intent?"

My suggestion was merely if they indeed decide to try for the B2. I was never arguing the fact that more than likely she can't get it. I was addressing the initial issue brought up, you are stuck on the other. Do you have problems with throwing around ideas? The final decision is theirs how to proceed.

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Filed: Other Country: China
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Since this sister and hubby are well known for their illegal activities, and they also know about this latest attempt, why not have several of the people that know this write a letter to the embassy. If the question comes up at the interview she can show them letter after letter. Also, is there a way to obtain a police report on this couple as well?

That she's visiting her US Citizen boyfriend/fiance is enough to kill her chances at a B2 visa. What would these letters say that would overcome the assumption of immigrant intent. No need to over-think this.

I understand the difficulty but with a child enrolled in school, a lease on a condo, three business' with one of them earning 50,000 per month profit; I think if the embassy is inclined to grant a B2 to a single Filipina, the case can be successfully made that she does indeed, have compelling reasons to return to her country. I'm not saying they will. In fact, we're both rather pessimistic based on historical results but I think it's worth a shot, especially since the duration of her stay is only three weeks. Whether or not that short a stay will help or hurt the decision-making process will be dependent on the duration of the interview and the direction it takes. I know it's not impossible Pushbck and I agree with your earlier assessment that the odds are probably no better than 50:50 but certainly those kind of odds are worth our effort; hence my initial reservations about her sister's extortion attempt. I do appreciate your honesty though and by and large, our Plan B seems to be gathering steam as a result of it.

The above is nothing new and doesn't address the question, which was, "What would these letters say that would overcome the assumption of immigrant intent?"

My suggestion was merely if they indeed decide to try for the B2. I was never arguing the fact that more than likely she can't get it. I was addressing the initial issue brought up, you are stuck on the other. Do you have problems with throwing around ideas? The final decision is theirs how to proceed.

My response was to Russ's answer to my direct question. I'm asking how he or anybody thinks these letters could overcome the problem and he didn't answer.

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Filed: Country: Philippines
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Pushbrk, you're assuming any attempt to file for the Visa isn't worthwhile because, as you say, "That she's visiting her US Citizen boyfriend/fiance is enough to kill her chances." I respectfully disagree and don't think the end result is as "cut and dry" as you claim. With that in mind, we return to the original premise of the thread which questioned the usefulness of writing a letter to the embassy asking them for their advice on how to proceed in manners of this nature. My effort here wasn't to qualify her through this website; rather to ask those who might have some knowledge of these type of shenanigans if it's something I should take seriously or brush it off as something the embassy pays no mind.

If indeed, she doesn't get her VISA, I want it to be for reasons not related to such extortion attempts. I would hate to do nothing and find out later she very well might have been approved had it not been for unsubstantiated accusations given consideration based on their submission alone.

Any letters by I or other family members will probably just draw unwanted attention to the process and I think, as another pointed out, it's best left to my girlfriend to explain the situation if the embassy feels it warrants a question or two.

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Filed: Other Country: China
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Pushbrk, you're assuming any attempt to file for the Visa isn't worthwhile because, as you say, "That she's visiting her US Citizen boyfriend/fiance is enough to kill her chances." I respectfully disagree and don't think the end result is as "cut and dry" as you claim. With that in mind, we return to the original premise of the thread which questioned the usefulness of writing a letter to the embassy asking them for their advice on how to proceed in manners of this nature. My effort here wasn't to qualify her through this website; rather to ask those who might have some knowledge of these type of shenanigans if it's something I should take seriously or brush it off as something the embassy pays no mind.

If indeed, she doesn't get her VISA, I want it to be for reasons not related to such extortion attempts. I would hate to do nothing and find out later she very well might have been approved had it not been for unsubstantiated accusations given consideration based on their submission alone.

Any letters by I or other family members will probably just draw unwanted attention to the process and I think, as another pointed out, it's best left to my girlfriend to explain the situation if the embassy feels it warrants a question or two.

And I'm trying to point out another critical reason why your decision not to send the letters is the correct one. They'll bring even more attention to the elephant in the room unless you have an answer to how they are going to make him invisible.

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Agreed. Truth be told, as spotty as both their records are with Manila police, I suspect the last thing they want is to bring attention to themselves so I think they are hoping her desire to get her Visa outweighs her common sense to just simply ignore them. I'm trying to tell her that be that as it may, if she doesn't get her Visa, to relax...I look forward to meeting her family, who have embraced me warmly and are thankful that I am looking out for their daughter by addressing this madness. I do have to admit however, that I am much less optimistic about her getting the B2 than I was before I submitted this thread. I guess it depends on whom actually does the interview as I'm sure the decision to grant her the Visa is determined by that one individual. I suppose, truth be told, the applicant must "sell themselves" to the interviewer; otherwise the word "boyfriend" uttered during the process would end it right then and there. :P

Fingers crossed!

Edited by Russ61

"Distance extinquishes little passions yet intensifies great ones."

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Agreed. Truth be told, as spotty as both their records are with Manila police, I suspect the last thing they want is to bring attention to themselves so I think they are hoping her desire to get her Visa outweighs her common sense to just simply ignore them. I'm trying to tell her that be that as it may, if she doesn't get her Visa, to relax...I look forward to meeting her family, who have embraced me warmly and are thankful that I am looking out for their daughter by addressing this madness. I do have to admit however, that I am much less optimistic about her getting the B2 than I was before I submitted this thread. I guess it depends on whom actually does the interview as I'm sure the decision to grant her the Visa is determined by that one individual. I suppose, truth be told, the applicant must "sell themselves" to the interviewer; otherwise the word "boyfriend" uttered during the process would end it right then and there. :P

Fingers crossed!

Yes, but she must also be extremely careful to tell the truth. She can't control what questions they'll ask, only the truthfulness of her answers.

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