In Egypt, "Prostitute" Is a Slippery Term

[Jenn! 918]

I've been thinking about this and I don't know if I buy the whole "you're a foreigner so it's different" thing. Maybe someone can explain that to me better.

If you're wearing a short skirt, what about that makes it ok and not #######-like being a foreigner as opposed to a local? Because more Americans wear short skirts? Doesn't that just mean that more Americans are whores?

*disclaimer: I don't personally think that these things make one a #######!

Well I think the reasoning is that MENA girls have a higher expection set by their own society. No one really sets any expectations for a foreigner.

Think about it in a different context. Let's say someone new starts working with you and makes a few mistakes, everyone will say she didn't know better, she's new. However you make a mistake and because you have been there for a long time, there are consequences and judgements being made.

I see what you're saying. I think though that it's still somewhat insulting to the foreigner. If they thought that what you were doing was really ok, there would be no expectation in their society that it should not be done.

Ok, I've confused myself.

[LRA 0]

I've been thinking about this and I don't know if I buy the whole "you're a foreigner so it's different" thing. Maybe someone can explain that to me better.

If you're wearing a short skirt, what about that makes it ok and not #######-like being a foreigner as opposed to a local? Because more Americans wear short skirts? Doesn't that just mean that more Americans are whores?

*disclaimer: I don't personally think that these things make one a #######!

hmmmm, I do think foreigners can get away with wearing things because it's prety normal in their countries....or better use of words...no one makes a big fuss if you a wearing say a tank top and short. In the MENA, the entire street would stop and I am sure there would be many accidents. But I am also 1000% sure you would be harrassed or worse verbally. Me b/c I'm Jordanian and I look like it...except they can tell I am a foreigner from a mile away, could not get away with wearing shorts in some of the smaller towns....and I'm a dude. They wouldn't come up to me and say anything to may face, but I am sure they'd say look at that #(*$&*@$#&*....or something to that effect. But I don't wear shorts there cause I know and people are begining to recognize me and know what family I belong to.

In AMM these days pretty much anything goes. I wonder if the author visited there what he would say that. Girls there wear things so revealing (hijab or not, even with their conservative mom and grandma next to them) that it shocks me who let me tell ya, has seen it all.

[♥JP♥ 5]

I've been thinking about this and I don't know if I buy the whole "you're a foreigner so it's different" thing. Maybe someone can explain that to me better.

If you're wearing a short skirt, what about that makes it ok and not #######-like being a foreigner as opposed to a local? Because more Americans wear short skirts? Doesn't that just mean that more Americans are whores?

*disclaimer: I don't personally think that these things make one a #######!

Well I think the reasoning is that MENA girls have a higher expection set by their own society. No one really sets any expectations for a foreigner.

Think about it in a different context. Let's say someone new starts working with you and makes a few mistakes, everyone will say she didn't know better, she's new. However you make a mistake and because you have been there for a long time, there are consequences and judgements being made.

I see what you're saying. I think though that it's still somewhat insulting to the foreigner. If they thought that what you were doing was really ok, there would be no expectation in their society that it should not be done.

Ok, I've confused myself.

Actually I think it's pretty insulting all the way around. But it's good they don't impose their expectations on everyone too. Take Saudi, you have to wear a hijab there. Not my belief but they impose it on everyone.

[mybackpages 0]

Actually I think it's pretty insulting all the way around. But it's good they don't impose their expectations on everyone too. Take Saudi, you have to wear a hijab there. Not my belief but they impose it on everyone.

Do you mean by law or by tradition? foreign women are not required by any law in KSA to cover their hair, but no doing so will result in a great deal of harrassment making it almost law de facto.

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

I think they accept it from foreginers because tourism brings in money and they don't bite the hand that helps feed them, especially when a foreginer is lotted not to be staying for a long time and not one of their own.

Edited June 27, 2008 by Olivia*

[Jenn! 918]

So it's "accepted" but only superficially, only to your face basically.

I mean, I just think it's good to keep in mind, you know?

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

So it's "accepted" but only superficially, only to your face basically.

I mean, I just think it's good to keep in mind, you know?

I think there is some truth to that. For example I was with my Husband at The 6th of October Theme Park celebrating our marriage. I know who goes to a theme park after their wedding? Well it was EID and while we were there of course a bunch of kids where too and foreigners and it was fun! But at one point my Husband and I are sitting down on a rocking covered bench talking like newlywed lovers do and a group of guys walk by starring at us. My Husband got the darkest look on his face and starred them down like a dog growling at someone he doesn't like. I'd never seen anyone do this in my life!

So I asked him, "What was that about." Then he tried to explain the psychology of the people that were looking at us and the reason for his reaction. But how does he really know what they are thinking unless he thinks it himself sometimes!?

Edited June 27, 2008 by Olivia*

[♥JP♥ 5]

Actually I think it's pretty insulting all the way around. But it's good they don't impose their expectations on everyone too. Take Saudi, you have to wear a hijab there. Not my belief but they impose it on everyone.

Do you mean by law or by tradition? foreign women are not required by any law in KSA to cover their hair, but no doing so will result in a great deal of harrassment making it almost law de facto.

I meant by expectation, which as you pointed out doesn't really matter if it's law or not.

[mybackpages 0]

Actually I think it's pretty insulting all the way around. But it's good they don't impose their expectations on everyone too. Take Saudi, you have to wear a hijab there. Not my belief but they impose it on everyone.

Do you mean by law or by tradition? foreign women are not required by any law in KSA to cover their hair, but no doing so will result in a great deal of harrassment making it almost law de facto.

I meant by expectation, which as you pointed out doesn't really matter if it's law or not.

I jsut need my reading glasses today

[♥JP♥ 5]

Actually I think it's pretty insulting all the way around. But it's good they don't impose their expectations on everyone too. Take Saudi, you have to wear a hijab there. Not my belief but they impose it on everyone.

Do you mean by law or by tradition? foreign women are not required by any law in KSA to cover their hair, but no doing so will result in a great deal of harrassment making it almost law de facto.

I meant by expectation, which as you pointed out doesn't really matter if it's law or not.

I jsut need my reading glasses today

LOL and I need a cookie.

[mybackpages 0]

Actually I think it's pretty insulting all the way around. But it's good they don't impose their expectations on everyone too. Take Saudi, you have to wear a hijab there. Not my belief but they impose it on everyone.

Do you mean by law or by tradition? foreign women are not required by any law in KSA to cover their hair, but no doing so will result in a great deal of harrassment making it almost law de facto.

I meant by expectation, which as you pointed out doesn't really matter if it's law or not.

I jsut need my reading glasses today

LOL and I need a cookie.

awww you know I can't say no to your cookie requests

[Jenn! 918]

Hey, what is this #######? This is the ####### thread.

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

Hey, what is this #######? This is the ####### thread.

[♥JP♥ 5]

Hey, what is this #######? This is the ####### thread.

LOL...Jenn if you want to see whores on your birthday you will have to go to the local nudey bar

[Jenn! 918]

Hey, what is this #######? This is the ####### thread.

LOL...Jenn if you want to see whores on your birthday you will have to go to the local nudey bar

Golden Banana....here I come!