SCOTUS knocks down death penalty for raping children - says it is not a "proportional punishment"

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Not much of a slippery slope... with children I think a society has to draw an absolute line that is not to be crossed. Harming the innocent is tantamount to displaying an utter contempt of innocence and life- and may be justifiable to some to deprive such brazen animals of their lives.

[Ban Hammer 13,352]

Not much of a slippery slope... with children I think a society has to draw an absolute line that is not to be crossed. Harming the innocent is tantamount to displaying an utter contempt of innocence and life- and may be justifiable to some to deprive such brazen animals of their lives.

and it should be woe unto those that do.

[HAL 9000 96]

Not much of a slippery slope... with children I think a society has to draw an absolute line that is not to be crossed. Harming the innocent is tantamount to displaying an utter contempt of innocence and life- and may be justifiable to some to deprive such brazen animals of their lives.

and it should be woe unto those that do.

Very much so. I am, of course, worried about how one can prove certain instances... but the cases that are clear cut and provable beyond any absolute doubt MUST be handled with in the most absolute of terms.

[Saddle Bronc 124]

Not much of a slippery slope... with children I think a society has to draw an absolute line that is not to be crossed. Harming the innocent is tantamount to displaying an utter contempt of innocence and life- and may be justifiable to some to deprive such brazen animals of their lives.

and it should be woe unto those that do.

Very much so. I am, of course, worried about how one can prove certain instances... but the cases that are clear cut and provable beyond any absolute doubt MUST be handled with in the most absolute of terms.

Personally, I favour letting the child-rapist get "encountered" while "attempting escape".

[Jack and Barbara 0]

Life in prison is justice enough

Is it?

I think so. How many cases have been found later that a person was wrongfully tried, convicted, and executed (the answer btw is one too many)? I will leave the judging to a higher being.

to me the answer would be the same regardless of rape, murder, or some other violent crime -> life in prison

[Jenn! 918]

Life in prison is justice enough

Is it?

I think so. How many cases have been found later that a person was wrongfully tried, convicted, and executed (the answer btw is one too many)? I will leave the judging to a higher being.

to me the answer would be the same regardless of rape, murder, or some other violent crime -> life in prison

and hard labor

[Sister Fracas 5]

to me the answer would be the same regardless of rape, murder, or some other violent crime -> life in prison

and hard labor

ditto what they said...

[Alex+R 0]

Duh.

A child rapist is severely mentally ill. There is no punishment that will serve as a deterrent.

I am afraid of anyone who thinks someone made a reasonable choice to hurt a child, the way someone makes a choice to commit armed robbery. Do you see that behavior in your realm of possibilities? Is the only reason you are not out raping children that you're afraid of prison?

When people begin to understand the motivations behind these crimes, maybe they will stop thinking torturing or killing their perpetrators is a reasonable solution.

Some people seem to confuse justice with vengeance, though.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Duh.

A child rapist is severely mentally ill. There is no punishment that will serve as a deterrent.

I am afraid of anyone who thinks someone made a reasonable choice to hurt a child, the way someone makes a choice to commit armed robbery. Do you see that behavior in your realm of possibilities? Is the only reason you are not out raping children that you're afraid of prison?

When people begin to understand the motivations behind these crimes, maybe they will stop thinking torturing or killing their perpetrators is a reasonable solution.

Some people seem to confuse justice with vengeance, though.

Especially on this subject. Not that its difficult to understand why - but even so...

[chri'stina 190]

Not much of a slippery slope... with children I think a society has to draw an absolute line that is not to be crossed. Harming the innocent is tantamount to displaying an utter contempt of innocence and life- and may be justifiable to some to deprive such brazen animals of their lives.

and it should be woe unto those that do.

Very much so. I am, of course, worried about how one can prove certain instances... but the cases that are clear cut and provable beyond any absolute doubt MUST be handled with in the most absolute of terms.

I know what you mean Alex about the vengeance thing...but to be honest if something happened to my child like that it would be very hard for me not to wish death on that person, or even want to kill them myself, even if I don't think that's something good to do. It is a truly horrible thing to go through I am sure and I just can't imagine. The feeling I have now after having a child is so much more intense than when I didn't. I am not saying that makes me special or better than those who don't have kids or anything, but for me personally it has made me even more enraged hearing about those kinds of things happening and has made me have thoughts that I didn't really have before about vengeance.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Hey, what's wrong with a little vengeance?

Why does God get to do all the smiting?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

In short - the justice system is supposed to be impartial. Not a place where people act out their revenge fantasies Charles Bronson style...

[Alex+R 0]

I know what you mean. I don't have kids, but the feeling of powerlessness I get when I hear about someone hurting a child makes my blood boil. Why couldn't we have stopped this?? and so on.

I just can't see how it's justice, or even somehow helpful to anyone, to kill those who do these terrible things.

[chri'stina 190]

VJ troll-

Well I do scare myself now because honestly I don't know what I'd do if that happened, but the first thing that pops into my mind is "kill". I even ask myself, would I really do it knowing it wasn't what I should do...I guess though it's a normal reaction whether you follow through or not.

I know what you mean. I don't have kids, but the feeling of powerlessness I get when I hear about someone hurting a child makes my blood boil. Why couldn't we have stopped this?? and so on.

I just can't see how it's justice, or even somehow helpful to anyone, to kill those who do these terrible things.

I think for the parent, it's just good to know they don't exist anymore and can't hurt anyone else. So I guess more than justice is just knowing they are gone.

[Alex+R 0]

That's true. From that frame of mind, it actually makes more sense to kill sex offenders than it does to kill murderers, since the homicide recidivism rate is much, much lower than the recidivism rate for sex offenses in general, and three times lower than recidivism for rape.