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As much as I hate being apart, I think it's probably wrong to place the blame (or at least all of it) on USCIS. They may enforce immigration laws, but they don't create them. The politicians in DC do that.

I know many here would like to believe that those working for USCIS could "bend" the rules for us at times, but how would they choose? Why would you get waived through and not me? These men and women are doing their job and we're simply "case files" to them. They see a ton of us every day, so we're not special.

Besides, if someone did "bend or break" the rules for an applicant, they might lose their job (and the applicant might still not get passed through anyway). The job they have is more important to them (and their family if they have one) than any of us getting together with our loved ones. They don't know us, so they're certainly not going to risk their job for a complete stranger they'll never meet.

I'm sure there are some "bad apples" who do find entertainment in preventing couples from getting together, but you'll find poor examples of people in any profession. None of us are so important (or perhaps, infamous) that any USCIS officer would pick us out of a crowd to harass us and only us.

Sometimes they don't follow the rules, that is where I have issues. But then again I am thinking about the consulate not the USCIS.

USCIS only pretends to work!

If they had contractor working on applications approval times would be 10 time shorter, but government employees work slower than paint dries.

they have contractors working on the USCIS 1-800 "mis"- information line.

You want them working on your petitions too?

In all honesty yes, at least they pick up the phone. Its a fact that a well trained contractor does better job than government employee :)

Perhaps you didn't realize this, but the call center is outsourced. They are not government employees.

Perhaps you should re-read both of our comments.

:blush: oops, I stand corrected.

The call center are only trained for the basics. Any variation has them like deers in the headlights. The actual immigration officer is hard to get a hold of. Some are nice, but some are not. I was trying to find out a timeline for our denied petition. We had a priority date, and the letter stated a specified wait time, but they had surpassed that wait time by a long shot. All I was looking for is a date they were working on for returned petitions such as ours. The immigration officer told us that they don't consider returned petitions a priority and they will "get around to it when they have time". With their back log that is a pretty scary statement!

When I told her how wrong this is to leave us in limbo for months, years, decades, with no idea when this would be decided her reponse was "thats the price you pay for marrying a foreigner". Wow just wow!!

If this was not a government office they would have been out of business in less than a year.

'Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Chardonnay in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO, What a Ride'

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As much as I hate being apart, I think it's probably wrong to place the blame (or at least all of it) on USCIS. They may enforce immigration laws, but they don't create them. The politicians in DC do that.

I know many here would like to believe that those working for USCIS could "bend" the rules for us at times, but how would they choose? Why would you get waived through and not me? These men and women are doing their job and we're simply "case files" to them. They see a ton of us every day, so we're not special.

Besides, if someone did "bend or break" the rules for an applicant, they might lose their job (and the applicant might still not get passed through anyway). The job they have is more important to them (and their family if they have one) than any of us getting together with our loved ones. They don't know us, so they're certainly not going to risk their job for a complete stranger they'll never meet.

I'm sure there are some "bad apples" who do find entertainment in preventing couples from getting together, but you'll find poor examples of people in any profession. None of us are so important (or perhaps, infamous) that any USCIS officer would pick us out of a crowd to harass us and only us.

Sometimes they don't follow the rules, that is where I have issues. But then again I am thinking about the consulate not the USCIS.

USCIS only pretends to work!

If they had contractor working on applications approval times would be 10 time shorter, but government employees work slower than paint dries.

they have contractors working on the USCIS 1-800 "mis"- information line.

You want them working on your petitions too?

In all honesty yes, at least they pick up the phone. Its a fact that a well trained contractor does better job than government employee :)

Perhaps you didn't realize this, but the call center is outsourced. They are not government employees.

Perhaps you should re-read both of our comments.

:blush: oops, I stand corrected.

The call center are only trained for the basics. Any variation has them like deers in the headlights. The actual immigration officer is hard to get a hold of. Some are nice, but some are not. I was trying to find out a timeline for our denied petition. We had a priority date, and the letter stated a specified wait time, but they had surpassed that wait time by a long shot. All I was looking for is a date they were working on for returned petitions such as ours. The immigration officer told us that they don't consider returned petitions a priority and they will "get around to it when they have time". With their back log that is a pretty scary statement!

When I told her how wrong this is to leave us in limbo for months, years, decades, with no idea when this would be decided her reponse was "thats the price you pay for marrying a foreigner". Wow just wow!!

If this was not a government office they would have been out of business in less than a year.

I got a similar response when I called and asked them why my case was taking so long. :angry:

May 7,2007-USCIS received I-129f
July 24,2007-NOA1 was received
April 21,2008-K-1 visa denied.
June 3,2008-waiver filed at US Consalate in Panama
The interview went well,they told him it will take another 6 months for them to adjudicate the waiver
March 3,2009-US Consulate claims they have no record of our December visit,nor Manuel's interview
March 27,2009-Manuel returned to the consulate for another interrogation(because they forgot about December's interview),and they were really rude !
April 3,2009-US Counsalate asks for more court documents that no longer exist !
June 1,2009-Manuel and I go back to the US consalate AGAIN to give them a letter from the court in Colon along with documents I already gave them last year.I was surprised to see they had two thick files for his case !


June 15,2010-They called Manuel in to take his fingerprints again,still no decision on his case!
June 22,2010-WAIVER APPROVED at 5:00pm
July 19,2010-VISA IN MANUELITO'S HAND at 3:15pm!
July 25,2010-Manuelito arrives at 9:35pm at Logan Intn'l Airport,Boston,MA
August 5,2010-FINALLY MARRIED!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 23,2010-Filed for AOS at the International Institute of RI $1400!
December 23,2010-Work authorization received.
January 12,2011-RFE

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I don't think they get pleasure out of it. My ex works for a different failed governmental bureaucracy and experiences a lot of anguish at the poor service they give. (She works for child welfare.)

Most of us suffer during this process. We are very attached to wanting to be with our loved one as soon as possible. Sometimes we look for evil personified when the evil, if it is evil, is simply a broken governmental bureaucracy no one seems to know how to fix. I found that the more I could accept the process for what it was, with less attachment to it being quick, humane, or efficient, the less I suffered. But a lot of the time I didn't do well accepting the process as it was, and I did suffer.

5-15-2002 Met, by chance, while I traveled on business

3-15-2005 I-129F
9-18-2005 Visa in hand
11-23-2005 She arrives in USA
1-18-2006 She returns to Russia, engaged but not married

11-10-2006 We got married!

2-12-2007 I-130 sent by Express mail to NSC
2-26-2007 I-129F sent by Express mail to Chicago lock box
6-25-2007 Both NOA2s in hand; notice date 6-15-2007
9-17-2007 K3 visa in hand
11-12-2007 POE Atlanta

8-14-2008 AOS packet sent
9-13-2008 biometrics
1-30-2009 AOS interview
2-12-2009 10-yr Green Card arrives in mail

2-11-2014 US Citizenship ceremony

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