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America remains a deeply religious nation, but a new survey finds most Americans don't believe their tradition is the only way to eternal life - even if the denomination's teachings say otherwise.

The findings, revealed Monday in a survey of 35,000 adults, can either be taken as a positive sign of growing religious tolerance, or disturbing evidence that Americans dismiss or don't know fundamental teachings of their own faiths.

Among the more startling numbers in the survey, conducted last year by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life: 57 percent of evangelical church attenders said they believe many religions can lead to eternal life, in conflict with traditional evangelical teaching.

In all, 70 percent of Americans with a religious affiliation shared that view, and 68 percent said there is more than one true way to interpret the teachings of their own religion.

"The survey shows religion in America is, indeed, 3,000 miles wide and only three inches deep," said D. Michael Lindsay, a Rice University sociologist of religion.

"There's a growing pluralistic impulse toward tolerance and that is having theological consequences," he said.

Earlier data from the Pew Forum's U.S. Religious Landscape Survey, released in February, highlighted how often Americans switch religious affiliation. The newly released material looks at religious belief and practice as well as the impact of religion on society, including how faith shapes political views.

The report argues that while relatively few people - 14 percent - cite religious beliefs as the main influence on their political thinking, religion still plays a powerful indirect role.

The study confirmed some well-known political dynamics, including stark divisions over abortion and gay marriage, with the more religiously committed taking conservative views on the issues.

But it also showed support across religious lines for greater governmental aid for the poor, even if it means more debt and stricter environmental laws and regulations.

By many measures, Americans are strongly religious: 92 percent believe in God, 74 percent believe in life after death and 63 percent say their respective scriptures are the word of God.

But deeper investigation found that more than one in four Roman Catholics, mainline Protestants and Orthodox Christians expressed some doubts about God's existence, as did six in ten Jews.

Another finding almost defies explanation: 21 percent of self-identified atheists said they believe in God or a universal spirit, with 8 percent "absolutely certain" of it.

"Look, this shows the limits of a survey approach to religion," said Peter Berger, a theology and sociology professor at Boston University. "What do people really mean when they say that many religions lead to eternal life? It might mean they don't believe their particular truth at all. Others might be saying, 'We believe a truth but respect other people, and they are not necessarily going to hell.' "

Luis Lugo, director of the Pew Forum, said that more research is planned to answer those kinds of questions, but that earlier, smaller surveys found similar results.

Nearly across the board, the majority of religious Americans believe many religions can lead to eternal life: mainline Protestants (83 percent), members of historic Black Protestant churches (59 percent), Roman Catholics (79 percent), Jews (82 percent) and Muslims (56 percent).

By similar margins, people in those faith groups believe in multiple interpretations of their own traditions' teachings. Yet 44 percent of the religiously affiliated also said their religion should preserve its traditional beliefs and practices.

"What most people are saying is, 'Hey, we don't have a hammer-lock on God or salvation, and God's bigger than us and we should respect that and respect other people,' " said the Rev. Tom Reese, a senior fellow at the Woodstock Theological Center at Georgetown University.

"Some people are like butterflies that go from flower to flower, going from religion to religion - and frankly they don't get that deep into any of them," he said.

Beliefs about eternal life vary greatly, even within a religious tradition.

Some Christians hold strongly to Jesus' words as described in John 14:6: "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." Others emphasize the wideness of God's grace.

The Catholic church teaches that the "one church of Christ ... subsists in the Catholic Church" alone and that Protestant churches, while defective, can be "instruments of salvation."

Roger Oldham, a vice president with the executive committee of the Southern Baptist Convention, bristled at using the word "tolerance" in the analysis.

"If by tolerance we mean we're willing to engage or embrace a multitude of ways to salvation, that's no longer evangelical belief," he said. "The word 'evangelical' has been stretched so broadly, it's almost an elastic term."

Others welcomed the findings.

"It shows increased religious security. People are comfortable with other traditions even if they're different," said the Rev. C. Welton Gaddy, president of the Interfaith Alliance. "It indicates a level of humility about religion that would be of great benefit to everyone."

More than most groups, Catholics break with their church, and not just on issues like abortion and homosexuality. Only six in 10 Catholics described God as "a person with whom people can have a relationship" - which the church teaches - while three in 10 described God as an "impersonal force."

"The statistics show, more than anything else, that many who describe themselves as Catholics do not know or understand the teachings of their church," said Denver Roman Catholic Archbishop Charles Chaput. "Being Catholic means believing what the Catholic church teaches. It is a communion of faith, not simply of ancestry and family tradition. It also means that the church ought to work harder at evangelizing its own members."

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21 percent of self-identified atheists said they believe in God or a universal spirit, with 8 percent "absolutely certain" of it.

Are they misusing the term "athiest"? :unsure:

And it really baffles me why America has so many religious people - more than any other developed country, no?

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21 percent of self-identified atheists said they believe in God or a universal spirit, with 8 percent "absolutely certain" of it.

Are they misusing the term "athiest"? :unsure:

And it really baffles me why America has so many religious people - more than any other developed country, no?

It should be agnostic. Did that survey differentiate between the two?

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21 percent of self-identified atheists said they believe in God or a universal spirit, with 8 percent "absolutely certain" of it.
Are they misusing the term "athiest"? :unsure:

And it really baffles me why America has so many religious people - more than any other developed country, no?

Eh, it is the largest (by population) developped nation--perhaps you missed that detail. :lol:

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21 percent of self-identified atheists said they believe in God or a universal spirit, with 8 percent "absolutely certain" of it.
Are they misusing the term "athiest"? :unsure:

And it really baffles me why America has so many religious people - more than any other developed country, no?

Eh, it is the largest (by population) developped nation--perhaps you missed that detail. :lol:

Percentagewise, obviously.

21 percent of self-identified atheists said they believe in God or a universal spirit, with 8 percent "absolutely certain" of it.

Are they misusing the term "athiest"? :unsure:

It should be agnostic. Did that survey differentiate between the two?

I don't know, it just sounds silly to say that.

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21 percent of self-identified atheists said they believe in God or a universal spirit, with 8 percent "absolutely certain" of it.
Are they misusing the term "athiest"? :unsure:
It should be agnostic. Did that survey differentiate between the two?
I don't know, it just sounds silly to say that.
Possibly, the survey lumpened the two together--which could result easily from a confusion beteween "IRreligious" (for agnostic) and "Areligious" (for atheist). Edited by CherryXS

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And it really baffles me why America has so many religious people - more than any other developed country, no?

It shouldn't once you realize the US was originally populated by a lot of religious fanatics kicked out of their own western European homelands. We got basically the worst of the worst...and it stuck.

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And it really baffles me why America has so many religious people - more than any other developed country, no?

It shouldn't once you realize the US was originally populated by a lot of religious fanatics kicked out of their own western European homelands. We got basically the worst of the worst...and it stuck.

*moves away from Wacken, looking for that lightening bolt* :unsure:

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And it really baffles me why America has so many religious people - more than any other developed country, no?

It shouldn't once you realize the US was originally populated by a lot of religious fanatics kicked out of their own western European homelands. We got basically the worst of the worst...and it stuck.

So much of our culture now seems so contrary to the whole Puritan thing. I find it all very curious.

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It shouldn't once you realize the US was originally populated by a lot of religious fanatics kicked out of their own western European homelands. We got basically the worst of the worst...and it stuck.

The seperation of church and state has been a fundemental tenet of American thinking even if it's not in the Constitution. That kept religion going in America even as religious affliation changed. By contrast, Christianity in Western Europe is largely dead as the empty cathedrals and most Europeans don't know much about the religion of their ancestors.

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And it really baffles me why America has so many religious people - more than any other developed country, no?

It shouldn't once you realize the US was originally populated by a lot of religious fanatics kicked out of their own western European homelands. We got basically the worst of the worst...and it stuck.

So much of our culture now seems so contrary to the whole Puritan thing. I find it all very curious.

Purtians were themselves quite contrary to the whole Puritan thing too. The one thing they excelled at that we see a lot of today is being adamantly sure their religion was the only right way.

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And it really baffles me why America has so many religious people - more than any other developed country, no?
It shouldn't once you realize the US was originally populated by a lot of religious fanatics kicked out of their own western European homelands. We got basically the worst of the worst...and it stuck.
:no: The original Mayflower Pilgrims were largely Dissenters who didn't want to be stuck worshipping by the mode ordered by Church of England (who were very fanatical in enforcement--John Bunyan wrote Pilgrim's Progress in jail).

The seperation of church and state has been a fundemental tenet of American thinking even if it's not in the Constitution. That kept religion going in America even as religious affliation changed. By contrast, Christianity in Western Europe is largely dead as the empty cathedrals and most Europeans don't know much about the religion of their ancestors.
Even this tenet is quite misunderstood.

Basically, it was that the State (government) should not interfere in church affairs--as they still bore the scars of rule by England, where the Church of England was State-sanctioned.

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i thought everyone was God's children? so, he does not believe in all his kids?

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