Section8 program cause of rising crime in midsize cities across America

[rebeccajo 14]

I was just saying I did chores too. I know people work hard.

So that's why you post things like this?

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...p;#entry1910127

Don't hate on me because I was lucky to have a wealthy family. Jealousy is overrated.

Amber, you have no idea how un-jealous I am of you.

You're just mildly amusing and pathetic.

Just the little Paris Hilton of VJ.

[Amby 490]

I was just saying I did chores too. I know people work hard.

So that's why you post things like this?

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...p;#entry1910127

That was actually kinda funny.

Let's not tear each other down like this.

Remember how your momma didn't pay you for your chores?

That's so you'd learn a little humility.

Some people don't have any.

I'm not going to argue because you made your mind up about me a long time ago. Think what you want.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Remember how your momma didn't pay you for your chores?

That's so you'd learn a little humility.

All it achieved was getting me to think of ways to get out of doing stuff

The imagination and ability to make up a good story has come in real handy over the years. Thanks, Mom!

Deeper Troll deeper!

[jundp 191]

I was just saying I did chores too. I know people work hard.

So that's why you post things like this?

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...p;#entry1910127

Don't hate on me because I was lucky to have a wealthy family. Jealousy is overrated.

Amber, no one is hating on you for being born into a wealthy family. It's just that you are very dismissive of other people's struggles and you do often make comments that come across as a bit spoiled. I know I am not jealous and I doubt most people here are. That's not what it's about. It's about wishing that maybe you would be less dismissive. It's kind of like saying "gee sorry you aren't as beautiful as I am" and then saying that it's not your fault you're born that way.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

I was just saying I did chores too. I know people work hard.

So that's why you post things like this?

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...p;#entry1910127

Don't hate on me because I was lucky to have a wealthy family. Jealousy is overrated.

Amber, no one is hating on you for being born into a wealthy family. It's just that you are very dismissive of other people's struggles and you do often make comments that come across as a bit spoiled. I know I am not jealous and I doubt most people here are. That's not what it's about. It's about wishing that maybe you would be less dismissive. It's kind of like saying "gee sorry you aren't as beautiful as I am" and then saying that it's not your fault you're born that way.

It can all be taken as fast as it was given!

[Amby 490]

I was just saying I did chores too. I know people work hard.

So that's why you post things like this?

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...p;#entry1910127

Don't hate on me because I was lucky to have a wealthy family. Jealousy is overrated.

Amber, no one is hating on you for being born into a wealthy family. It's just that you are very dismissive of other people's struggles and you do often make comments that come across as a bit spoiled. I know I am not jealous and I doubt most people here are. That's not what it's about. It's about wishing that maybe you would be less dismissive. It's kind of like saying "gee sorry you aren't as beautiful as I am" and then saying that it's not your fault you're born that way.

It's not my "fault" I was born this way either. I'm not dismissive of struggles. I try to compare things even if the comparisons are completely #######. I know most people work hard for the things they have, but I'm not going to apologize for not working too much for the things I have.

[mawilson 2,133]

It's kind of like saying "gee sorry you aren't as beautiful as I am" and then saying that it's not your fault you're born that way.

Are you saying it *is* your fault that you're not as beautiful?

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

It's kind of like saying "gee sorry you aren't as beautiful as I am" and then saying that it's not your fault you're born that way.

Are you saying it *is* your fault that you're not as beautiful?

POINTS?

[jundp 191]

It's not my "fault" I was born this way either. I'm not dismissive of struggles. I try to compare things even if the comparisons are completely #######. I know most people work hard for the things they have, but I'm not going to apologize for not working too much for the things I have.

Of course it's not your fault. And you shouldn't apologize for it either, nor do you need to justify your life or upbringing. Just maybe, sometimes, take a deep breath and think about how your words might come across before you type them? Sometimes I think your words hurt others without your realization.

And that's all from Dr. Jennie tonight.

It's kind of like saying "gee sorry you aren't as beautiful as I am" and then saying that it's not your fault you're born that way.

Are you saying it *is* your fault that you're not as beautiful?

[rebeccajo 14]

I was just saying I did chores too. I know people work hard.

So that's why you post things like this?

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...p;#entry1910127

Don't hate on me because I was lucky to have a wealthy family. Jealousy is overrated.

Amber, no one is hating on you for being born into a wealthy family. It's just that you are very dismissive of other people's struggles and you do often make comments that come across as a bit spoiled. I know I am not jealous and I doubt most people here are. That's not what it's about. It's about wishing that maybe you would be less dismissive. It's kind of like saying "gee sorry you aren't as beautiful as I am" and then saying that it's not your fault you're born that way.

It's not my "fault" I was born this way either. I'm not dismissive of struggles. I try to compare things even if the comparisons are completely #######. I know most people work hard for the things they have, but I'm not going to apologize for not working too much for the things I have.

Deja-freakin-vue.

I said something like that one time. Back when I was married to my first husband, who was loaded to the teeth. Kind of came back to bite me in the butt when I divorced him.

$hit happens, Amber. You think you'll be able to handle it when it's your turn?

[mawilson 2,133]

It's not my "fault" I was born this way either. I'm not dismissive of struggles. I try to compare things even if the comparisons are completely #######. I know most people work hard for the things they have, but I'm not going to apologize for not working too much for the things I have.

Deja-freakin-vue.

I said something like that one time. Back when I was married to my first husband, who was loaded to the teeth. Kind of came back to bite me in the butt when I divorced him.

Are you saying that you were like Amber that one time?

[rebeccajo 14]

It's not my "fault" I was born this way either. I'm not dismissive of struggles. I try to compare things even if the comparisons are completely #######. I know most people work hard for the things they have, but I'm not going to apologize for not working too much for the things I have.

Deja-freakin-vue.

I said something like that one time. Back when I was married to my first husband, who was loaded to the teeth. Kind of came back to bite me in the butt when I divorced him.

Are you saying that you were like Amber that one time?

I'm saying I never had a trust fund or came from a wealthy family, but yeah at one point in my life I had it made financially. We had a house that was custom inside top to bottom (not a big house but the best in our neighborhood); we had three vehicles, including a one-ton dually; we had a $70,000 fifth-wheel trailer. All the trappings of upper-class middle america. Oh and I was at stay-at-home Mom too.

Only problem was my husband was an a$$. He'd cheated on me with about five different women before he lost a job over one of them - the only reason I didn't leave him was because we had a son and - frankly - I was too frightened of losing my material possessions to walk out. I stuck with him for two years of unemployment and then he got the great job that provided us with all the stuff I talked about in the first paragraph.

But that wasn't good enough for him you know? He was really pi$$ed at the world because the house still wasn't big enough and the dually wasn't big enough to pull the bigger fifth wheel he wanted to buy. He popped a guy one time at a custom trailer dealership because the cover for the fifth wheel didn't fit the nose of it right. One ticket for assault later and hey - he was a new man for oh - about a week.

Needless to say I became unimpressed with what money can buy. Because it sure wasn't making me or my son happy.

So yeah - I had said I wasn't going to apologize for my good fortune. Trouble was, when I said it - I didn't really know what good fortune was.

I found that in a dingy semi in Londonderry, Northern Ireland. Council housing - you know - Section 8, UK style.

[palilover 1]

It's not my "fault" I was born this way either. I'm not dismissive of struggles. I try to compare things even if the comparisons are completely #######. I know most people work hard for the things they have, but I'm not going to apologize for not working too much for the things I have.

Deja-freakin-vue.

I said something like that one time. Back when I was married to my first husband, who was loaded to the teeth. Kind of came back to bite me in the butt when I divorced him.

Are you saying that you were like Amber that one time?

I'm saying I never had a trust fund or came from a wealthy family, but yeah at one point in my life I had it made financially. We had a house that was custom inside top to bottom (not a big house but the best in our neighborhood); we had three vehicles, including a one-ton dually; we had a $70,000 fifth-wheel trailer. All the trappings of upper-class middle america. Oh and I was at stay-at-home Mom too.

Only problem was my husband was an a$$. He'd cheated on me with about five different women before he lost a job over one of them - the only reason I didn't leave him was because we had a son and - frankly - I was too frightened of losing my material possessions to walk out. I stuck with him for two years of unemployment and then he got the great job that provided us with all the stuff I talked about in the first paragraph.

But that wasn't good enough for him you know? He was really pi$$ed at the world because the house still wasn't big enough and the dually wasn't big enough to pull the bigger fifth wheel he wanted to buy. He popped a guy one time at a custom trailer dealership because the cover for the fifth wheel didn't fit the nose of it right. One ticket for assault later and hey - he was a new man for oh - about a week.

Needless to say I became unimpressed with what money can buy. Because it sure wasn't making me or my son happy.

So yeah - I had said I wasn't going to apologize for my good fortune. Trouble was, when I said it - I didn't really know what good fortune was.

I found that in a dingy semi in Londonderry, Northern Ireland. Council housing - you know - Section 8, UK style.

I think what you described could be any one of us if we hit it big or something. Money can and does do very weird things to people. I am seeing someone go through something similiar to what you are going through now. Funny thing is, she wants to buy all these nice things and she has all this money from her possibly soon to be ex husband. Yet she brags about how one of her friends only makes $8 an hour and is always buying her lunch when they go out. She never has to pay for anything. And yet, who is the one with money here?

But what you described, at least you rose above it. People make mistakes thinkiing one way or another sometimes in their life but if you can overcome that, it makes you that much stronger.

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Another interesting media account involving Section8:

A Baltimore developer is going ahead with plans to raze a cluster of dilapidated and long vacant buildings in Edgewood and replace them with nearly 300 new homes.

...

Edgewood, like most of the county, is expected to benefit from growth at nearby Aberdeen Proving Ground. The base, part of the nationwide Base Closure and Realignment Commission process known as BRAC, could bring as many as 10,000 new jobs and thousands of prospective home buyers to the area.

"Our target market is the professionals working here now and those moving here with BRAC," said Jeff Rosen, development associate with The Shelter Group. "We are ultimately looking at an intergenerational mix of families."

...

Sam Gibson, a longtime Edgewood resident and community activist, participated on a panel that reviewed proposals for the property.

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But he has since become leery of the plan, fearing it will open the door to more federally subsidized housing in a community that already has about 23 percent of Harford's low-income housing. He said he cannot support the project, until the federal government freezes subsidized, or Section 8, housing in Edgewood.

"We are tired of having Section 8 shoved down our throats and tired of the element of crime that comes with it," Gibson said. "The community is inundated with Section 8. It has caused us harm and devalued our homes ... until they promise us no Section 8, I want no new building."

During the informational meeting, The Shelter Group staff insisted that the homes will be sold at market value.

...

"We are not planning low-income housing," Rosen repeatedly said at the meeting.

Beth Hendrix, deputy director of the county Department of Community Services, said officials realize low-income housing is a valid concern for Edgewood, but they remain committed to the project.

[mawilson 2,133]

Ultimately the question is what to do with the poor people..... they have to live somewhere.