Section8 program cause of rising crime in midsize cities across America

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

city people

i was thinking that too....picturing charles coming out of his cavehouse all scruffy and peein on the porch rock as he drinkings his coffee from a cup made from wood

i'll post a pic of it for you later when i get home and can get into photobucket.

How do you go home, do they airdrop you into your estate? I'm assuming it's not passable by road.

[mawilson 2,133]

What's funny is that charles calls me city people while the real city people (from nyc) think i'm stuck in the boonies....

That's right!

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

It has nothing to do with money and education either. Both the UK and AUS have a generous welfare system yet nothing changes there either. I find the more money you hand out the less likely certain people are to get up and change. Whereas you would be amazed what people will do when they are starving to survive. Welfare is excellent for people who will use it to better their lives but is disastrous if someone becomes comfortable and doesn't bother to get off it.

Unfortunately what they usually do is kill and steal, nothing to be amazed about.

I was thinking more along the lines of getting a job.

A lot more difficult than you might imagine if you have no bank account and you are of "no fixed abode".

[Ban Hammer 13,352]

What's funny is that charles calls me city people while the real city people (from nyc) think i'm stuck in the boonies....

you equated chiggers and all that to living in a cave.

you can find every one of them here on ft leavenworth too

[gaijin 0]

It has nothing to do with money and education either. Both the UK and AUS have a generous welfare system yet nothing changes there either. I find the more money you hand out the less likely certain people are to get up and change. Whereas you would be amazed what people will do when they are starving to survive. Welfare is excellent for people who will use it to better their lives but is disastrous if someone becomes comfortable and doesn't bother to get off it.

Unfortunately what they usually do is kill and steal, nothing to be amazed about.

Correct

True, which is why Section 8 exists, right? To make rents affordable.

[Sinergy 3]

What's funny is that charles calls me city people while the real city people (from nyc) think i'm stuck in the boonies....

Charles, ill be looking for that pic

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

What's funny is that charles calls me city people while the real city people (from nyc) think i'm stuck in the boonies....

you equated chiggers and all that to living in a cave.

you can find every one of them here on ft leavenworth too

before i met you on vj i thot ft leavenworth was just a gigantic prison.

[Heracles 417]

And for those who afraid of "affordable housing" in their neighborhoods-affordable housing here is considered to be housing that has a selling price of 250,000. What a joke-who is that affortable to? Certainly not those making 10$ an hour-or even 12 or 15.

Home ownership is not a entitlement. People who can't afford to buy should rent.

Housing affordability should focus on rents, not sale prices.

Or move. There are lots of places that are affordable.

Why are immigrants still coming to America, or staying, when they know the minimum wage here is so low. That is stupidity. This is not the 1920's. or post war 50's. At least go to AUS where the minimum wage is like $14 USD.

[Ban Hammer 13,352]

city people

i was thinking that too....picturing charles coming out of his cavehouse all scruffy and peein on the porch rock as he drinkings his coffee from a cup made from wood

i'll post a pic of it for you later when i get home and can get into photobucket.

How do you go home, do they airdrop you into your estate? I'm assuming it's not passable by road.

if i can drive the camaro into the garage, what do you think?

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

city people

i was thinking that too....picturing charles coming out of his cavehouse all scruffy and peein on the porch rock as he drinkings his coffee from a cup made from wood

i'll post a pic of it for you later when i get home and can get into photobucket.

How do you go home, do they airdrop you into your estate? I'm assuming it's not passable by road.

if i can drive the camaro into the garage, what do you think?

:o

[Ban Hammer 13,352]

What's funny is that charles calls me city people while the real city people (from nyc) think i'm stuck in the boonies....

you equated chiggers and all that to living in a cave.

you can find every one of them here on ft leavenworth too

before i met you on vj i thot ft leavenworth was just a gigantic prison.

some assigned here might agree with you but overall, the usdb and the fed pen only take up a small amount of area here.

[Heracles 417]

It has nothing to do with money and education either. Both the UK and AUS have a generous welfare system yet nothing changes there either. I find the more money you hand out the less likely certain people are to get up and change. Whereas you would be amazed what people will do when they are starving to survive. Welfare is excellent for people who will use it to better their lives but is disastrous if someone becomes comfortable and doesn't bother to get off it.

Unfortunately what they usually do is kill and steal, nothing to be amazed about.

I was thinking more along the lines of getting a job.

A lot more difficult than you might imagine if you have no bank account and you are of "no fixed abode".

Hmm the 20,000,000 illegal immigrants, with no papers, don't seem to have a problem. So there clearly is a way. Or are these those jobs Americans don't want to do.

Edited June 23, 2008 by Boo-Yah!

[Ban Hammer 13,352]

city people

i was thinking that too....picturing charles coming out of his cavehouse all scruffy and peein on the porch rock as he drinkings his coffee from a cup made from wood

i'll post a pic of it for you later when i get home and can get into photobucket.

How do you go home, do they airdrop you into your estate? I'm assuming it's not passable by road.

if i can drive the camaro into the garage, what do you think?

:o

actually, i'm certain the roads here are better than in joisey

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Ultimately the question is what to do with the poor people..... they have to live somewhere.

I think instead of moving poor people around there should be ways to make them not poor and not uneducated at the same time. I think that may be a novel thought for some to swallow.

Poor is relative, not absolute. If it were absolute, America would have almost no poverty at all, the 'poor' in this country are well-off compared to the poor in some of the actually poor parts of the world.

So, given that poor is relative, how do you ever 'make them not poor'? A good percentage of the population will always be poor by sheer virtue of the fact that they will still make and have less than others.

I disagree. There are certain qualifications that we can define as poor.

If you have shoes, you're not poor.

I'll tell that to the next homeless family I see living under an overpass...."You got shoes, dammit!"

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

This is not the 1920's. or post war 50's. At least go to AUS where the minimum wage is like $14 USD.

Speaking for Indians, family reunification rules make coming to the US a lot easier.