Residence question

[shawna7 4]

hey everyone,

Technically when doesone become a non resident of Canada.

As soon as you move..OR when you become a legal resident in the USA.

I'm wondering because before your AOS is complete..are you not technically a resident still in Canada?

thanx for any input

S

[Cassie 8]

No. You become a non-resident of Canada as soon as you move to another permanent location. Actually, Canada considers you non-resident once the IRS considers you a resident, which is pretty much once you step across the border.

[neiks 19]

Depends for what purpose and what govenerment department you are dealing with at the time. For tax purposes Revenue Canada may still be consisdered a "resident of Canada" or "deemed a resident" even after you are living in the US. For Health Care purposes it will vary by province to when they consider you a resident or not.

[Krikit 1,164]

Unless they have been informed otherwise, Canada deems you a non-resident the moment you reach 183 days out of the country.

[shawna7 4]

Unless they have been informed otherwise, Canada deems you a non-resident the moment you reach 183 days out of the country.

ok thanks everyone..I'm trying to figure out how to handle them on Monday..lol I had contacted child tax benefit when I moved in january..and gave them my USA address..and they continued to deposit the child tax credit..I now find out,..not good! I thought because it was based on last years taxes..I was fine until July..apparently not..(based on another thread...)

S

[Cassie 8]

Unless they have been informed otherwise, Canada deems you a non-resident the moment you reach 183 days out of the country.

ok thanks everyone..I'm trying to figure out how to handle them on Monday..lol I had contacted child tax benefit when I moved in january..and gave them my USA address..and they continued to deposit the child tax credit..I now find out,..not good! I thought because it was based on last years taxes..I was fine until July..apparently not..(based on another thread...)

S

The reason why I said 'pretty much when you cross the border' was because of a run-in I had with the Student Loan people. I had qualified the year before for the loan reduction program (where you have to show your income for a year to prove you qualify to have an amount removed from your loan total). So for October 31 2002 to October 31 2003, I qualified. They sent me a "you can apply again letter" so I collected all my proof for October 31 2003 to October 2004. I was told (by letter and by phone call)that I was subsequently disqualified because I moved to the US November 1, 2004 (one whole freaking day difference!!!!!) and even though I was a resident during the dates mentioned, it didn't matter because I was currently in the US.

I'm not sure what you are trying to handle, but they will demand their money back that they paid you after leaving Canada.

[Krikit 1,164]

Unless they have been informed otherwise, Canada deems you a non-resident the moment you reach 183 days out of the country.

ok thanks everyone..I'm trying to figure out how to handle them on Monday..lol I had contacted child tax benefit when I moved in january..and gave them my USA address..and they continued to deposit the child tax credit..I now find out,..not good! I thought because it was based on last years taxes..I was fine until July..apparently not..(based on another thread...)

S

The reason why I said 'pretty much when you cross the border' was because of a run-in I had with the Student Loan people. I had qualified the year before for the loan reduction program (where you have to show your income for a year to prove you qualify to have an amount removed from your loan total). So for October 31 2002 to October 31 2003, I qualified. They sent me a "you can apply again letter" so I collected all my proof for October 31 2003 to October 2004. I was told (by letter and by phone call)that I was subsequently disqualified because I moved to the US November 1, 2004 (one whole freaking day difference!!!!!) and even though I was a resident during the dates mentioned, it didn't matter because I was currently in the US.

I'm not sure what you are trying to handle, but they will demand their money back that they paid you after leaving Canada.

Sorry. I hope I didn't give the impression I was disagreeing with you. Like Neiks says..... it depends on who or what you're dealing with. I was just trying to get across that no matter what else goes on, you are officially deemed a non-resident after 183 days. However, there are definitely other factors which come into play. I don't think I'm explaining this properly. Maybe do a search on the Gov of Canada site for a better explanation. I think my brain is too mushy to be any clearer right now. Sorry.

[Cassie 8]

Unless they have been informed otherwise, Canada deems you a non-resident the moment you reach 183 days out of the country.

ok thanks everyone..I'm trying to figure out how to handle them on Monday..lol I had contacted child tax benefit when I moved in january..and gave them my USA address..and they continued to deposit the child tax credit..I now find out,..not good! I thought because it was based on last years taxes..I was fine until July..apparently not..(based on another thread...)

S

The reason why I said 'pretty much when you cross the border' was because of a run-in I had with the Student Loan people. I had qualified the year before for the loan reduction program (where you have to show your income for a year to prove you qualify to have an amount removed from your loan total). So for October 31 2002 to October 31 2003, I qualified. They sent me a "you can apply again letter" so I collected all my proof for October 31 2003 to October 2004. I was told (by letter and by phone call)that I was subsequently disqualified because I moved to the US November 1, 2004 (one whole freaking day difference!!!!!) and even though I was a resident during the dates mentioned, it didn't matter because I was currently in the US.

I'm not sure what you are trying to handle, but they will demand their money back that they paid you after leaving Canada.

Sorry. I hope I didn't give the impression I was disagreeing with you. Like Neiks says..... it depends on who or what you're dealing with. I was just trying to get across that no matter what else goes on, you are officially deemed a non-resident after 183 days. However, there are definitely other factors which come into play. I don't think I'm explaining this properly. Maybe do a search on the Gov of Canada site for a better explanation. I think my brain is too mushy to be any clearer right now. Sorry.

hehe it made perfect sense to me....as much as government red-tape can make sense!

[shawna7 4]

Unless they have been informed otherwise, Canada deems you a non-resident the moment you reach 183 days out of the country.

ok thanks everyone..I'm trying to figure out how to handle them on Monday..lol I had contacted child tax benefit when I moved in january..and gave them my USA address..and they continued to deposit the child tax credit..I now find out,..not good! I thought because it was based on last years taxes..I was fine until July..apparently not..(based on another thread...)

S

The reason why I said 'pretty much when you cross the border' was because of a run-in I had with the Student Loan people. I had qualified the year before for the loan reduction program (where you have to show your income for a year to prove you qualify to have an amount removed from your loan total). So for October 31 2002 to October 31 2003, I qualified. They sent me a "you can apply again letter" so I collected all my proof for October 31 2003 to October 2004. I was told (by letter and by phone call)that I was subsequently disqualified because I moved to the US November 1, 2004 (one whole freaking day difference!!!!!) and even though I was a resident during the dates mentioned, it didn't matter because I was currently in the US.

I'm not sure what you are trying to handle, but they will demand their money back that they paid you after leaving Canada.

Sorry. I hope I didn't give the impression I was disagreeing with you. Like Neiks says..... it depends on who or what you're dealing with. I was just trying to get across that no matter what else goes on, you are officially deemed a non-resident after 183 days. However, there are definitely other factors which come into play. I don't think I'm explaining this properly. Maybe do a search on the Gov of Canada site for a better explanation. I think my brain is too mushy to be any clearer right now. Sorry.

hehe it made perfect sense to me....as much as government red-tape can make sense!

lmao..you both made good sense! I'm planning to plead ignorance..which is true!! I didn't know..PLUS I DID give them my USA address...and they kept sending me money!! anyway..I'm sure they will want the money back..I just wonder if they'll wait and let me pay it back..or if they'll attack my EI..