Visits to the USA

[mrs_sdp 0]

Hi All

I need some advice. My fiance is a USC and I live in Scotland. We have been together for almost two years and have visited each other several times.

I read a couple of posts saying that people had been sent home from POE because they had visited the USA too much - the post said that they were told to get a visa or apply for a K1. I'm concerned that when I go back to the USA with my fiance at the end of July (for four weeks), after his week long visit to Scotland, that I won't be allowed into the country.

This will be my LAST visit to the USA on the VWP, as my divorce should be granted mid September and we'll be applying for a K1 visa as soon as this becomes final. As I will be doing all the paperwork for the petition, I will be bringing the "almost" completed K1 to the USA with me - all that will need to be added are his documents. I will leave the package in the USA and when I return home and after my divorce papers come through I am going to send them to him so that he can enclose them with the rest of the petition and then send it off. Once he has sent the papers off to the lock box, it means that we're not going to be able to see each other for months as he can't come over to Scotland to visit me because of his work. Plus, he's a brilliant guy but he's not very organised .. .. so I would rather make sure that his docs are all in order so that I can relax!!

So ... what do you think my chances are? Should I just be upfront and explain the situation, show POE the K1, tell them it's my last visit and that I'm going to miss my fiance like hell once the K1 is filed and hope to appeal to their better nature? Or should I just forget about the visit altogether?

Has anyone else been refused? Or have had a history of several visits to the USA and still been allowed in?

Any help would be appreciated .. thanks

[KimandRuss 0]

Look at our timeline... practically living in the US for more than a year... leaving every 3 months. He was denied entry on his last attempt in. Don't let our case scare you though. I too was awaiting a divorce and we knew we were playing with fire. We simply wanted to be together as much as we could.

Basically, they want you to be spending more time in your own country than you are in the U.S. The VWP is meant for visiting and that is what you're doing.

There is no need for you to tell the POE officer anything. If he/she asks you are visiting. If he/she asks who you are visiting then you can explain your BF. Do not offer up anything you aren't asked for specifically and do not lie. There are literally thousands of posts on VJ about visiting. Bring plenty of proof showing ties to your own country... mortage/rent proof, utility bills... a letter from your employer...etc. That is what they will want to see.

There is always the chance that you could be denied at entry but many people spend time together with no problems.

Much luck to you.

[mrs_sdp 0]

Look at our timeline... practically living in the US for more than a year... leaving every 3 months. He was denied entry on his last attempt in. Don't let our case scare you though. I too was awaiting a divorce and we knew we were playing with fire. We simply wanted to be together as much as we could.

Basically, they want you to be spending more time in your own country than you are in the U.S. The VWP is meant for visiting and that is what you're doing.

There is no need for you to tell the POE officer anything. If he/she asks you are visiting. If he/she asks who you are visiting then you can explain your BF. Do not offer up anything you aren't asked for specifically and do not lie. There are literally thousands of posts on VJ about visiting. Bring plenty of proof showing ties to your own country... mortage/rent proof, utility bills... a letter from your employer...etc. That is what they will want to see.

There is always the chance that you could be denied at entry but many people spend time together with no problems.

Much luck to you.

Thanks for your quick reply! Yes, I've been a visitor all right! I started out visiting for two weeks and over the years it graduated to three months on my last visit. I'm just scared the fact that I'm going back again so soon will raise a red flag with immigration - it will only have been six weeks since I left the USA ... ah sheesh .. what you do for love ..

Showing proof won't be that easy - I actually live with my son and pay rent, but there is no formal documentation of this. All the utility bills are in his name. I AM in the middle of a diploma course at a private college, that's why I've been able to visit so much because the course is so flexible .. so I guess I could get a letter from them verfying this.

Usually I just tell them that I am visiting a family of friends .. if they ask who, then I give them my fiance's details. Well, he has a family .. and he is my friend ... so they can't say I'm lying can they?

I'm just scared I guess ... it's only a few months now until we get to file the K1 after such a LONG wait - I just want to spend some time with him before that happens .. hopefully things will be ok ..

Thanks for your help - it's much appreciated!

[KimandRuss 0]

Believe me when I tell you that I know how you feel! We waited years! We were together for a couple and we've now been apart for 9 months. Hopefully we'll have our NOA2 sometime soon and we can be on with it! The time passes quickly but it's still tough.

I suppose it's for you to decide if it's worth the risk. I hope it works out for you.

[mrs_sdp 0]

Believe me when I tell you that I know how you feel! We waited years! We were together for a couple and we've now been apart for 9 months. Hopefully we'll have our NOA2 sometime soon and we can be on with it! The time passes quickly but it's still tough.

I suppose it's for you to decide if it's worth the risk. I hope it works out for you.

I love him .. it's worth the risk ..

And, I wish you much luck .. fingers crossed that you get your NOA2 soon ...

[KimandRuss 0]

That's that then! Have a good trip!

Thank you.

[Nao 0]

Hi All

I need some advice. My fiance is a USC and I live in Scotland. We have been together for almost two years and have visited each other several times.

I read a couple of posts saying that people had been sent home from POE because they had visited the USA too much - the post said that they were told to get a visa or apply for a K1. I'm concerned that when I go back to the USA with my fiance at the end of July (for four weeks), after his week long visit to Scotland, that I won't be allowed into the country.

This will be my LAST visit to the USA on the VWP, as my divorce should be granted mid September and we'll be applying for a K1 visa as soon as this becomes final. As I will be doing all the paperwork for the petition, I will be bringing the "almost" completed K1 to the USA with me - all that will need to be added are his documents. I will leave the package in the USA and when I return home and after my divorce papers come through I am going to send them to him so that he can enclose them with the rest of the petition and then send it off. Once he has sent the papers off to the lock box, it means that we're not going to be able to see each other for months as he can't come over to Scotland to visit me because of his work. Plus, he's a brilliant guy but he's not very organised .. .. so I would rather make sure that his docs are all in order so that I can relax!!

So ... what do you think my chances are? Should I just be upfront and explain the situation, show POE the K1, tell them it's my last visit and that I'm going to miss my fiance like hell once the K1 is filed and hope to appeal to their better nature? Or should I just forget about the visit altogether?

Has anyone else been refused? Or have had a history of several visits to the USA and still been allowed in?

Any help would be appreciated .. thanks

Hello.

I just wanna let you know what I have heard from the embassy officer.

Even though you are denied entry at POE, it won't affect your K1.

Illegal activities such as overstaying VWP will affect K1 later. So, make sure to leave on time.

Also, be sure not to be involved in anything illegal which can affect your case later.

Then, you should be all alright.

As everyone else say, bring lots of evidences to show your tie to your country.

Some people on previous topic advised not to tell the officer at POE that you are coming to the U.S. to see your fiancee. She advised to say that you are going to see your best friend or somebody.

I am not sure and I cannot tell you anything with regard to this because you are supposed to be honest with the POE officer.

Well, if you decide to visit your fiancee in the U.S., please enjoy your stay.

By the way, my fiancee is visiting me in Japan in a month.

I cannot wait to see him either.

[Nao 0]

Oh, also....

((What I have heard from a telephone operator at NVC)

Even though your case gets approved at USCIS and transferred to NVC while you are in the U.S., NVC should not have a problem processing it.]

((Info from the embassy))

You are supposed to have an interview at U.S. embassy within 4 months after your case gets approved at USCIS(NOA2). However, you can file an extension with U.S. embassy. You will only need to fill out a form and a letter from your fiancee explaining the situation.

So, do not worry about the processing of visa while you are in the U.S.

Good Luck

[mrs_sdp 0]

Hi All

I need some advice. My fiance is a USC and I live in Scotland. We have been together for almost two years and have visited each other several times.

I read a couple of posts saying that people had been sent home from POE because they had visited the USA too much - the post said that they were told to get a visa or apply for a K1. I'm concerned that when I go back to the USA with my fiance at the end of July (for four weeks), after his week long visit to Scotland, that I won't be allowed into the country.

This will be my LAST visit to the USA on the VWP, as my divorce should be granted mid September and we'll be applying for a K1 visa as soon as this becomes final. As I will be doing all the paperwork for the petition, I will be bringing the "almost" completed K1 to the USA with me - all that will need to be added are his documents. I will leave the package in the USA and when I return home and after my divorce papers come through I am going to send them to him so that he can enclose them with the rest of the petition and then send it off. Once he has sent the papers off to the lock box, it means that we're not going to be able to see each other for months as he can't come over to Scotland to visit me because of his work. Plus, he's a brilliant guy but he's not very organised .. .. so I would rather make sure that his docs are all in order so that I can relax!!

So ... what do you think my chances are? Should I just be upfront and explain the situation, show POE the K1, tell them it's my last visit and that I'm going to miss my fiance like hell once the K1 is filed and hope to appeal to their better nature? Or should I just forget about the visit altogether?

Has anyone else been refused? Or have had a history of several visits to the USA and still been allowed in?

Any help would be appreciated .. thanks

Hello.

I just wanna let you know what I have heard from the embassy officer.

Even though you are denied entry at POE, it won't affect your K1.

Illegal activities such as overstaying VWP will affect K1 later. So, make sure to leave on time.

Also, be sure not to be involved in anything illegal which can affect your case later.

Then, you should be all alright.

As everyone else say, bring lots of evidences to show your tie to your country.

Some people on previous topic advised not to tell the officer at POE that you are coming to the U.S. to see your fiancee. She advised to say that you are going to see your best friend or somebody.

I am not sure and I cannot tell you anything with regard to this because you are supposed to be honest with the POE officer.

Well, if you decide to visit your fiancee in the U.S., please enjoy your stay.

By the way, my fiancee is visiting me in Japan in a month.

I cannot wait to see him either.

Yes, Nao - I heard that too, which was good news. I have never overstayed the 90 days so I should be OK on that score. One visit, I admit, I came close - 89 days I think it was. I counted them 10 times on the calendar to make sure that it was right before I booked my flight! As for being involved in anything illegal .. geez I'm a 47 year old grandma I live a quiet life

Evidence is going to be the tricky part. I think I could get a letter from college approving my holiday but telling me that they expect me back on whichever date. I can also take my bank statements with the standing orders for my rent money every month too. I thought I could maybe ask my son to write a letter saying that he is my landlord and that he is expecting me back on whichever date - even if it doesn't help, it certainly won't harm.

I have never told the POE Officer that I am coming to see my fiance - I always tell them that I'm visiting friends. I don't think ommitting the fact that my fiance is also my friend is a lie, so I guess I'm ok on that score too ...

Enjoy your fiance's visit - hope you have a great time!

Thanks again

[Nich-Nick 3,354]

Hey there Mrs_sdp--

Nice to find you over here at VJ. My fiance has visited the USA 31 times so far.

[45495 1]

Hey there Mrs_sdp--

Nice to find you over here at VJ. My fiance has visited the USA 31 times so far.

whaaw 31 times. that's crazy

i flew over 9 times in 2year, once only leaving the US for 2 days. all short trips and once after filling the K1. the never gave me any problems. we got our approval while i was in the states, and P3 was waiting for me by the time i got home. (very nice welcome back gift )

as long as you spent reasonable amount of time in your home country, you should be fine.

good luck,

marjan

[Nich-Nick 3,354]

whaaw 31 times. that's crazy

Well not all to see me, but that many VWP visits to the US since the 1990s and no denials. The normal questions are "Why are you here? How long are you staying? What do you do for a living?" The longest stay was 3 weeks and normally around 2-3 months between visits.

[mrs_sdp 0]

Hi All

I actually just got back on 16th June from an 89 day visit. My next visit on the 28th of July was supposed to be for six weeks but I was thinking about reducing it to just four.

Does anyone think that cutting the visit down to just a month would make any difference? Or don't they care what length of time you're there as long as you leave within the 90 days?

There's about six weeks between my visits .. I'm hoping and praying that it will be enough ...

Thanks and take care!

[KimandRuss 0]

I don't think cutting down your trip a couple weeks will matter. Their concern is your intent to immigrate. Either they let you in or they dont.

[smchadwick 0]

Yeah I am slightly worried too! Gareth came for 3 weeks in March. And he is hopefully coming back in July and staying for about 4 weeks...fingers crossed. There will have only been about 3 months since his last return home. And if things keep steady...he can come back on his K1 in Oct or Nov. Are all these visits going to be too close? Or should he be ok? The only other time he's been to the US in his life was back in 2005 when he went to Disney World.

And do they ask you why you're enter the US when you arrive? I've never traveled to another country before so I have no clue. If they ask should he say visiting his girlfriend? Or just friend? I don't think he should say fiancée...

Thanks!

Stephanie

Edited June 20, 2008 by smchadwick